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4) The federal government will supply free coffee for all coffee rooms members
You got my vote
5) A BRIT WILL RULE THE US – THEN IT WILL TRULY BE GREAT AGAIN!!!!!
And now you lost it
“@coffee addict reb nochum of tzenobel held the baal shem was moshiach after his passing, just becaseu it wasnt done before doesnt mean its against mesorah, what will you say when moshiach comes? against the mesorah, he didnt come for the past 2000 yrs.“
I’m going to say it for the umpteenth time
The notzrim have the same claim
Regarding your first claim of R Nochum (never heard of him until you said)
So you’re arguing with him? Make the besht your moshiach! (Obviously if r nachum can say it you can take him on too! As to the generation part he’s probably still alive as you say your rebbe is!
They said their rebbe was moshiach after he died?
In the words of qwerty (where has he gone?)
Checkmate
“Women going to work, whereas the posuk says kol kvoda bas melech penima“
Lubavitch women don’t go to work? I know of some that do (I also know some litvish women that don’t go to work)
“What did your rebbi say on purim 1956 [or another one of those years] about the hazon ish ?“
“people can understand purim 1956 the way they want – out of context,“
So tell us the context
Parents feel like a failure if the child doesn’t turn out the way they want them to turn out, like they parented them wrong and that’s why they are different than them
They use their children as a litmus test as to how well they parented
Cs,
“Not sure what you’re on about. This is basic math. The Alter Rebbe was Chabad Rebbe 1, so obviously the Rebbe is 7. What’s invented?“
What Arso is saying is that was there anyone before the rebbe that had this concept of “Dor shvii”? It seems not and you being a loyal chassid will accept whatever your rebbe says as fact
Now let’s say that a Rav in some city says that Moshoach is going to come from his city or was born to a lady named (insert his mothers name) so everyone should assume he’s moshiach you would say the guy is crazy
So to over here, if the rebbe made up this concept of Dor shvii and there’s nowhere where it says this (outside of his sichos) it’s the same thing
It’s shooting an arrow and drawing the target around it (which has been repeated a thousand times it just seems like you’re not understanding it)
He can’t throw Israel under the bus because Biden already did it
Froggie,
Don’t put yourself down,
You have a lot of smart well thought out comments
Froggie,
With all due respect…..
This wasn’t your smartest comment
Arso,
I thought Lubavitch now holds that moshiach can come from the dead which is why I said Rav Shach
Thanks that’s what I really wanted to know
GH,
I’ve heard from numerous yidden how trump is like Hitler ym”s (both on this site and outside of it)
So if you can’t take it don’t dish it out
(Was yechiel’s comment a mod edit directed at him or was it yechiel directed at me?)
both, but the part you saw was to him.
Ooookkkkkkaaaaayyyyy
So basically you like Biden because he’s not trump
You probably would vote for Hitler Ym”s over trump
“if the rebbe wasn’t a gadal, who was?“
Rav Shach
Yechiell,
You love Obama and Biden you would never say that about them
“I honestly hope republicans keep on losing as well, I want the left to realize their dreams to the fullest extent possible so folks like you can finally see the truth.”
Lostspark,
By then it probably will be too late
To paraphrase yechiell,
Obama and Biden…… FEH!
Ctlawyer,
So to understand what you’re saying, cities can vote for their municipalities and make laws on who can irregardless to whether it can be done nationally because the constitution doesn’t mention it
I hope I understood it correctly, if so thanks for the American Law lesson
The answer is obvious. The Democratic party needs their votes to stay in power.
They’ll try hard to let them vote legally, but even if that fails, they’ll use them somehow to stuff the ballot boxes.
UNITED STATES OF CHINA: Noncitizen Sworn into San Francisco’s Elections Commission
2cents,
Do you know otherwise
I’ve heard about it happening in Egypt too
2cents,
What I said holds true for other Arab countries too I was just using it as an example
“If Rishonim hold that it’s acceptable for a husband to beat his wife, how dare you write “it’s not only not effective but grossly harmful in our time”? That’s every bit as heretical as saying that Chazal didn’t know how to build cars or nuclear weapons!”
I was just having a discussion with my wife about parenting and I blame it all on feminism and TV
The Mishnah is sotah says “in ikvasa d’meshicha…. Chutzpah will be rampant a son will disgust his father a daughter will stand up to her mother etc” and I said that is was all do to the two things I mentioned
Those two things changed the psyche of people that made it that a father can’t hit his kids or his wife and therefore the family hierarchy is destroyed because women view themselves on equal level to the father and therefore kids devalue their parents
If you look at Arab countries where there is no feminism and tv only shows what they want the kids are way more obedient (cue the kids in Gaza)
Just my humble opinion, I’m sorry if I offended anyone
And to answer gadolhadofi that’s how people changed and it answers how the rishonim can know nuclear physics
Avira,
How dare you compare Lubavitch to notzrim! I don’t want to hear it! It’s all made up connections
Everyone knows that the Rebbe’s second coming will happen and J’s won’t because the Rebbe is Hashem in a body whereas J is only a son……
Totally agree with gadolhadofi
It’s no different than democrats arguing with republicans the other party is wrong and we’re right
Liberalism is a PROGRESSIVE disease
“He probably would think we’re all doing wrong, whether we’re here in the CR, or learning Tanya.“
Or he would be marveling in the fact that we’re here in the CR or learning Tanya as opposed to doing multitudes of assur things on the internet or in the street
You can’t judge yourself as opposed to earlier generations if the internet was around in the times of the gr”a who knows what would’ve been (especially with a stronger yetzer hara)
“Ghd, it doesn’t really matter whether times have changed, I’m not convinced that there was ever an inyan at any time in history for a man to require his wife to be confined to her home, as UJM seems to misinterpret the halacha to say“
Doesn’t the Gemara list three different types of people one of the throwing out the wine with the fly inside and says that type of person locks the door on his wife so that she doesn’t leave and she’s מזנה תחתיו correct me if I’m wrong
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Yecheil,
Aaq answered for me (was going to say the same thing in my own words, but I see aaq already did)
Regarding what Keith wrote that “who cares who moshiach is, as long as they keep the Torah knocking them is sinas chinam”
No one said we “Hate chabad” that if a Lubavitcher was drowning we would push him down and not save him, not even that we wouldn’t say “Hi” to them (or throw them out of a party (a la kamtza) what (mostly) everyone is saying is that chabad is fabulous except for the “rebbe is moshiach yechi” stuff which everyone else views as very dangerous and would like to save them from it
I wouldn’t be surprised is in the times of the tzedukkim and early notzrim they did the same
DaMoshe,
You know the history of the Baal Shem Tov?
DaMoshe,
I don’t find it too distressing that they teach a “new form” as long as it’s “another way to serving Hashem” there were 12 shvatim going through their own path in the yam suf, no one said “my path is the only path”
Additionally we say שבעים פנים לתורה
I can so see the early notzrim saying the same thing as cs and sechel
What’s wrong with saying yoshke is part of the trinity or that he’s Hashem’s son (we say bni bechori yisrael, and the passuk says עלמה etc.)
Please finally explain the difference, is it because lubavitchers keep the Torah? What if someone came along like Peter did and says the Rebbe told him in a dream……?
Why don’t you continue it here
(Maybe 29 won’t notice 🤫)
Sidi,
Over here?
The same and different at the same time (if you know what I mean)
Good luck finding your post 😒
Welcome back sidi!
Daasyochid,
We’ll see if commonsaychel is right or wrong if the op follows up, so far she hasnt
No LF,
You didn’t LOSE your silliness, it didn’t go to waste,
You grew from them!
“you’re right, I should’ve clarified. By yetzias mitzrayim, there was only disappearance. My point was that you can’t always take what looks and seems like fact for granted, because before the eigel, Moshe looked like he was being buried by the Malachim in shomayim.”
In this paragraph you’re saying the rebbe is still alive bgashmius
Not even the notzrim believe that their messiah is alive physically
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry
IMO it’s because moros feel it’s the parents responsibility and parents feel it’s the moros responsibility so each side kicks the can to the other and the child suffers
“I guess you missed the heavenly funeral bit. For starters“
Cs I hope you’re not quoting a “new testament” when he redeemed klal yisrael from mitzrayim he “disappeared” he didn’t die, he wasn’t around for a few months between when he went to pharaoh the first time and when he went in front of him by maakos dam
Cs,
Disappearance doesn’t mean die (moshe rabbeinu didn’t die when he “disappeared”
Yet again you sound like a notzri trying to twist Torah and meforshim to fit your beliefs
I wasn’t making light, like qwerty was stating, I was showing how moshichists don’t sound that much different than early notzrim and the only reason I believe that they haven’t followed in that path is that there hasn’t been anyone to distance them from yoddishkeit (no one has told them that the Rebbe came to him in a dream and said to move shabbos to Tuesday)
If this is what Lubavitch really believes, I find that to be really disturbing