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I thought Lubavitchers loved all Jews.
They do
Anyone that doesn’t follow the rebbe or hold of him isn’t Jewish in their opinion
“Anyone who knows a bit how to learn a shtikel Gemara would immediately recognize that I was referring to Rashi on Gemara, not on chumash.“
Only a Lubavitcher would say rashi on Chumash is saying something different than Rashi on Gemara
Rashi is one person he doesn’t argue on himself and if you think that then YOU obviously don’t understand something!
I’ve noticed I’m persona non grata among the Lubavitchers here and I’m glad because as other posters have said they’re too far gone
“Calling a tzaddik “lying kofer last-name” sounds less respectful than calling someone by his last name three lines after writing “Rav” about him.“
I’m sorry I took Lostspark’s quote (probably from Wikipedia) and thought he wrote it
“never wrote that Yaakov avenue is G-d litterly. I wrote you should learn the maamer הקבצו תרסח, after learning that and understanding it, you won’t have complaints on the Rebbe and R shlome cunin. They said the same things as the gemarah.
All you guys do is say well the gemarah is obviously not litterly but cunin means literally as if the rebbe runs the world and not hashem ch”v.“Once you got here you can say the same thing about the rebbe being משיח however everyone in chabad will say THAT is literal you can’t pick in choose
Additionally they obviously forgot an explicit משנה in אבות which says
חכמים הזהרו בדבריכם….
I’m sorry, I didn’t read Qwerty’s post fully just the part addressed to me 😂
Qwerty,
Like I said before I am not your enemy ch”v just because we disagree on something (like you being a hypocrite which you ended up agreeing with me on 😜) doesn’t make us enemies
Lostspark and Menachem,
The difference between qwerty and you is that he can give honor to those people he disagrees with as you see he still calls your rebbe Rav (or R) whereas you can’t do that with Rav Shach, as I’ve stated before I’ve seen Lubavitchers (I’ll admit a teenager) stick his middle finger up when Rav Shach’s name was mentioned, additionally you will never find an אבי עזרי within a mile of a chabad house
“How in the world do you know that? He only brought the Gemara to prove to you the same point that you yourself said as well, that just because a holy statement can be interpreted by stupid people as idolatry, that doesn’t make the statement possul!”
עשרה בטבת is a fast day (one of the reasons) because the חכמים had to write the Torah in Greek and they changed it for that exact reason
As QWERTY would say “checkmate”
“Menachem Shmei denies that Lubavitchers think that they are the “Master Race” of Judaism. Let me provide two anecdotes.
Despite these anecdotes, my previous point remains: Lubavitch is a derech, not a race. “
Of course it’s a derech not a race, if it was a race you couldn’t convert people to it
“Qwerty, maybe instead tell us about the son and grandchildren of Rav Shach?“
Rav Shach lamented on it and said because he didn’t sing zmiros on shabbos
He’s not perfect (and he knew it) as opposed to the “משיח”
Qwerty,
You didn’t know Yaakov is “the holy ghost”?
“People wanting to post here should be required to pass a minimum intelligence test.“
😂
Maybe
Let’s give the mods more work to do!
😂
“Pali diaspora HATES Kamala.“
Just ask Omar and tlaib 🙄
You have to be an idiot not to realize that the Arabs love democrats
“But deciding that whatever you open up to is a spiritual instruction is baseless and childish.“
And I know Lubavitcher that do this (because that is what they’re taught)
Menachem,
I would have the same question
Earth to Menachem
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ASKING QUESTIONS ON ANYBODY, even a Gemara, it what you do afterwards with it
But I guess Lubavitch goes after blind faith (sounds like another religion I know of)
Shabbos kodesh (another song, besides Oy yoy yoy shabbos kodesh)
“Makes complete sense…..if you’re a Martian.“
Or as I’ve been saying, a נוצרי
“I know, it’s crazy for students to quote their teacher all the time.
Imagine if someone לא אמר דבר שלא שמע מרבו, such blasphemy.“No it’s crazy to use it as a Chumash as to what the whole comment was about
“Those who refused vaccines are still dying at a higher rate”
I’m sorry but that’s a bunch of bs
The virus has become so much more tamer because of the mutations not because of vaccines
“One of the answers given is that since Avraham’s nature was מדת החסד, it would SEEM that he only passed the first tests because they fit with his nature“
Kicking out הגר & ישמעאל is hardly חסד
On a side note I want to add a caveat
Yidden have something called a גורל הגר״א where (if you know what you’re doing) you open a Chumash and do whatever the passuk says
Lubavitchers have their own “Chumash” called “the rebbe’s sichos” (which is why it’s probably quoted a lot over here) and they write a letter to the rebbe and place it in the book and do whatever it says
I’m going to say it (and the lubavitchers here won’t even address my post because of it)
I wonder if the נוצרים do that with their book too 🤔
Sechel,
You can basically say the same thing for chabad just switch it
So here’s the Gemara that seichel cited
ואמר רב אחא אמר רב אלעזר מנין שקראו הקב״ה ליעקב א-ל שנאמר ויקרא לו א-ל אלקי ישראל דאי סלקא דעתך למזבח קרא ליה יעקב א-ל ויקרא לו יעקב מיבעי ליה אלא ויקרא לו ליעקב א-ל ומי קראו א-ל אלקי ישראל
Translated it means how do you know Hashem called Yaakov G-d? The passuk says “and He called to him/it G-d” if you think that Yaakov called the altar G-d it should have written and Yaakov called it, rather it says and he called to him to Yaakov G-d, and who called him G-d? The G-d of Israel
You would also need to speak to a hashgacha (a reliable one) and that will be a whole nother headache
“I know I sound crazy but when you see it you’ll see it everywhere. Trust the Plan.“
You don’t sound crazy, you are crazy
When Bibi came, Kamala skipped the speech and gave him a stern talking to whereas trump invited him in and they were smiling like old friends (which they are)
You dumbo rats are really funny
But hey it’s a mental disease
I’ll post the Gemara later (at work now)
Qwerty,
Megillah 18a and the Rashi over there (what Sechel cited) but like I said before it’s not so pashut to say that (especially with Rashi on the passuk)
To further add to my comment to GH
RESCUED ALIVE: Bedouin Hostage Is Rescued From Gaza In Shin Bet-IDF Op [VIDEOS & PHOTOS]
“On the other hand, you are a liar. You said that there’s a Gemara which states that Yaakov Avinu is god. I checked with my Rav and no such Gemara exists.“
Qwerty,
He quoted the Gemara and according to the literal translation that’s what it says but like i said it’s no different than quoting yeshaya
And it seems like misdirection of comments
😂“ I am doubtful any cease fire will be lasting, but its the only way to bring home at least a few of the living hostages“
Tell that to Noa
It obviously isn’t the only way and it probably isn’t the best way either if whoever gets released on the Hamas side will just do it again
Ex-ctlawyer
Do you deliberately misunderstand me (and I’m assuming people in general, I hope it’s not specific to me)
I NEVER said you don’t know the difference I said 1 was “confusing the difference”
Did you do this in court too?
Skripka,
Who’s zuberman? (I might know who you’re referring to, but not sure)
Seichel,
I brought you a מפורש one that you said you learned (which you obviously didn’t) and you’re bringing me a sicha
Who made this sicha?
I will say it over and over again it’s no different than a נוצרי bringing me his book to prove his guy is god or משיח
Ever heard of Isiah 53?
OP,
You can say the same thing for עם) הארץ)
1. military might!! IRAN’S ATTACK ON ISRAEL REPELLED BY THE IRON DOME. idf credits superior technology.
2. IRON DOME FAILS TO REPEL IRAN’S ATTACK ON ISRAEL. Defense and AG blame the catastrophe on not enough chareidim in the army.
Ex-ctlawyer,
1) probably confused assault with harass
Seichel,
“i do, and looked at the mefarshim in the gemarah and medrash, and would encourage anyone who reads the sicha in chelek 2, (or saw it in the yaated neeman) to see the paragraphs before and after, and the footnotes!”
Let’s learn the מהרש״א together
דאי ס״ד למזבח קראו. למאי ס״ד השתא יהיה פירושו כפרוש רש״י בחומש לפי פשוטו שעל שם הנס שהיה ה׳ עמו והצילו קראו למזבח אל להיות שבחו של מקום כו׳ ע״ש וכפי׳ רש״י בחומש גבי ויקרא שמו ה׳ נסי ויקרא לו ה׳ שלום ומתורגמינן ופלח וצלי מ״מ י״ל כו ע״ש נראה מדבריהם שהתרגום שתרגם ויקרא ופלח יפרש נני שהקריאה היא מוסבת על המזבח כפרש״י לפי פשוטו בחומש אלא שהתרגום שומר הטעם ולא המלות כדרכו והוא דחוק בדברי התרגום
And here is the important part (the part you OBVIOUSLY didn’t see)
וטפי ניחא בזה דברי הרמב״ן שהבין שהתרגום יש לו דרך אחר שכתב אבל אונקלוס אמר ופלח עלה קדם א-ל אלקט דישראל ויהיה הטעם לו כטעם בו וכו׳ עכ״ל ויהיה הפירוש הכתוב לפי זה שקרא יעקב בתפילה על המזבח לא-ל אלקי ישראל והדרש דהכא ימאן זה דמלת א-ל מיותר הוא ולמאי דס״ד הכא דלמזבח קרא א-ל ה״ה הכי פריך דמלת א-ל מיותר ולא הוה ליה למכתב א-ל אלא יעקב הוא שקרא וכתב הרמב״ן שיש בענין זה סוד כו׳ ירמזו למה שהיו אומרים
שצורת יעקב חקוקה בכסא הכבוד כו׳ ע״שDo you need translation?
In other words he says יעקב was either calling Hashem or the מזבח that
So like I asked before “Do you take all gemaras the way you want without trying to understand it?”
Well I see my question was answered on the main site
Seichel,
Do you take all gemaras the way you want without trying to understand it?
Did you look at the מהרשא on that Gemara? And even if you didn’t maybe Moshe Rabbeinu was also ה׳ why only Yaakov (and R Menachem Mendel Schneerson, oops I was עובר הוצאת שם שמים לבטלה)
Furthermore if he is god how can you have pictures of him?
Wow Zaphod!
I’m touched!
You thought I would escape? I’ll give you the reason for my screen name, it that people in a coffee room drink coffee and since I’m always in the coffee room so therefore I became addicted to coffee (or only someone addicted to coffee is always in the coffee room)
Ex-ctlawyer
@1
Verbal assault?
Physical assault?
On the organization or an individual?I have read no details, please enlighten me.
HATERS: Masked Anti-Israel Protesters Crash Agudah Antisemitism Event At DNC
It’s right on the main page
Ex-ctlawyer,
Can you please tell me what non politician spoke or will be speaking at the DNC?
“I know, it’s crazy to say that a human being is Hashem’s shliach to do something in the world. Almost as crazy as the kofer whom I overheard yesterday saying that he is supporting his family, as if it’s him and not Hashem. As crazy as Kalev saying that MOSHE split the sea, brought down manna, and flew in quail (see Rashi above). Or imagine if Moshe would have called Moshiach “Hashem’s shliach” to take the Jews out of golus (Rashi Shemos 4:13). As if G-d has partners! Pfft!“
Of course it’s perfectly normal, there’s no problem in the trinity which is a שותפות for goyim
“Welcome to the club. Shmei will never give up. He’s like his Rebbe very smart but very Meshuga.“
I’ve always been part of the club
Ex-ctlawyer,
I’m commenting on Maskildoresh’s comment, they way I do it sometimes is by quoting his comments (hence the quotation marks)
Ujm,
People shouldn’t be in kollel?
Ujm,
People shouldn’t be in kollel?
“Just open the Chumash. Did you see chassidim complaining about the Rebbe the way Jews complained about Moshe? Caze clozed.
They were the misnagdim 😉
You had some Jews against Moshe and others extremely devoted.
Think about Yehoshua, Kalev, the Leviim, etc.“I wonder if the נוצרים called the פרושים misnagdim too 🤔
They probably did