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“One of the answers given is that since Avraham’s nature was מדת החסד, it would SEEM that he only passed the first tests because they fit with his nature“
Kicking out הגר & ישמעאל is hardly חסד
On a side note I want to add a caveat
Yidden have something called a גורל הגר״א where (if you know what you’re doing) you open a Chumash and do whatever the passuk says
Lubavitchers have their own “Chumash” called “the rebbe’s sichos” (which is why it’s probably quoted a lot over here) and they write a letter to the rebbe and place it in the book and do whatever it says
I’m going to say it (and the lubavitchers here won’t even address my post because of it)
I wonder if the נוצרים do that with their book too 🤔
Sechel,
You can basically say the same thing for chabad just switch it
So here’s the Gemara that seichel cited
ואמר רב אחא אמר רב אלעזר מנין שקראו הקב״ה ליעקב א-ל שנאמר ויקרא לו א-ל אלקי ישראל דאי סלקא דעתך למזבח קרא ליה יעקב א-ל ויקרא לו יעקב מיבעי ליה אלא ויקרא לו ליעקב א-ל ומי קראו א-ל אלקי ישראל
Translated it means how do you know Hashem called Yaakov G-d? The passuk says “and He called to him/it G-d” if you think that Yaakov called the altar G-d it should have written and Yaakov called it, rather it says and he called to him to Yaakov G-d, and who called him G-d? The G-d of Israel
You would also need to speak to a hashgacha (a reliable one) and that will be a whole nother headache
“I know I sound crazy but when you see it you’ll see it everywhere. Trust the Plan.“
You don’t sound crazy, you are crazy
When Bibi came, Kamala skipped the speech and gave him a stern talking to whereas trump invited him in and they were smiling like old friends (which they are)
You dumbo rats are really funny
But hey it’s a mental disease
I’ll post the Gemara later (at work now)
Qwerty,
Megillah 18a and the Rashi over there (what Sechel cited) but like I said before it’s not so pashut to say that (especially with Rashi on the passuk)
To further add to my comment to GH
RESCUED ALIVE: Bedouin Hostage Is Rescued From Gaza In Shin Bet-IDF Op [VIDEOS & PHOTOS]
“On the other hand, you are a liar. You said that there’s a Gemara which states that Yaakov Avinu is god. I checked with my Rav and no such Gemara exists.“
Qwerty,
He quoted the Gemara and according to the literal translation that’s what it says but like i said it’s no different than quoting yeshaya
And it seems like misdirection of comments
😂“ I am doubtful any cease fire will be lasting, but its the only way to bring home at least a few of the living hostages“
Tell that to Noa
It obviously isn’t the only way and it probably isn’t the best way either if whoever gets released on the Hamas side will just do it again
Ex-ctlawyer
Do you deliberately misunderstand me (and I’m assuming people in general, I hope it’s not specific to me)
I NEVER said you don’t know the difference I said 1 was “confusing the difference”
Did you do this in court too?
Skripka,
Who’s zuberman? (I might know who you’re referring to, but not sure)
Seichel,
I brought you a מפורש one that you said you learned (which you obviously didn’t) and you’re bringing me a sicha
Who made this sicha?
I will say it over and over again it’s no different than a נוצרי bringing me his book to prove his guy is god or משיח
Ever heard of Isiah 53?
OP,
You can say the same thing for עם) הארץ)
1. military might!! IRAN’S ATTACK ON ISRAEL REPELLED BY THE IRON DOME. idf credits superior technology.
2. IRON DOME FAILS TO REPEL IRAN’S ATTACK ON ISRAEL. Defense and AG blame the catastrophe on not enough chareidim in the army.
Ex-ctlawyer,
1) probably confused assault with harass
Seichel,
“i do, and looked at the mefarshim in the gemarah and medrash, and would encourage anyone who reads the sicha in chelek 2, (or saw it in the yaated neeman) to see the paragraphs before and after, and the footnotes!”
Let’s learn the מהרש״א together
דאי ס״ד למזבח קראו. למאי ס״ד השתא יהיה פירושו כפרוש רש״י בחומש לפי פשוטו שעל שם הנס שהיה ה׳ עמו והצילו קראו למזבח אל להיות שבחו של מקום כו׳ ע״ש וכפי׳ רש״י בחומש גבי ויקרא שמו ה׳ נסי ויקרא לו ה׳ שלום ומתורגמינן ופלח וצלי מ״מ י״ל כו ע״ש נראה מדבריהם שהתרגום שתרגם ויקרא ופלח יפרש נני שהקריאה היא מוסבת על המזבח כפרש״י לפי פשוטו בחומש אלא שהתרגום שומר הטעם ולא המלות כדרכו והוא דחוק בדברי התרגום
And here is the important part (the part you OBVIOUSLY didn’t see)
וטפי ניחא בזה דברי הרמב״ן שהבין שהתרגום יש לו דרך אחר שכתב אבל אונקלוס אמר ופלח עלה קדם א-ל אלקט דישראל ויהיה הטעם לו כטעם בו וכו׳ עכ״ל ויהיה הפירוש הכתוב לפי זה שקרא יעקב בתפילה על המזבח לא-ל אלקי ישראל והדרש דהכא ימאן זה דמלת א-ל מיותר הוא ולמאי דס״ד הכא דלמזבח קרא א-ל ה״ה הכי פריך דמלת א-ל מיותר ולא הוה ליה למכתב א-ל אלא יעקב הוא שקרא וכתב הרמב״ן שיש בענין זה סוד כו׳ ירמזו למה שהיו אומרים
שצורת יעקב חקוקה בכסא הכבוד כו׳ ע״שDo you need translation?
In other words he says יעקב was either calling Hashem or the מזבח that
So like I asked before “Do you take all gemaras the way you want without trying to understand it?”
Well I see my question was answered on the main site
Seichel,
Do you take all gemaras the way you want without trying to understand it?
Did you look at the מהרשא on that Gemara? And even if you didn’t maybe Moshe Rabbeinu was also ה׳ why only Yaakov (and R Menachem Mendel Schneerson, oops I was עובר הוצאת שם שמים לבטלה)
Furthermore if he is god how can you have pictures of him?
Wow Zaphod!
I’m touched!
You thought I would escape? I’ll give you the reason for my screen name, it that people in a coffee room drink coffee and since I’m always in the coffee room so therefore I became addicted to coffee (or only someone addicted to coffee is always in the coffee room)
Ex-ctlawyer
@1
Verbal assault?
Physical assault?
On the organization or an individual?I have read no details, please enlighten me.
HATERS: Masked Anti-Israel Protesters Crash Agudah Antisemitism Event At DNC
It’s right on the main page
Ex-ctlawyer,
Can you please tell me what non politician spoke or will be speaking at the DNC?
“I know, it’s crazy to say that a human being is Hashem’s shliach to do something in the world. Almost as crazy as the kofer whom I overheard yesterday saying that he is supporting his family, as if it’s him and not Hashem. As crazy as Kalev saying that MOSHE split the sea, brought down manna, and flew in quail (see Rashi above). Or imagine if Moshe would have called Moshiach “Hashem’s shliach” to take the Jews out of golus (Rashi Shemos 4:13). As if G-d has partners! Pfft!“
Of course it’s perfectly normal, there’s no problem in the trinity which is a שותפות for goyim
“Welcome to the club. Shmei will never give up. He’s like his Rebbe very smart but very Meshuga.“
I’ve always been part of the club
Ex-ctlawyer,
I’m commenting on Maskildoresh’s comment, they way I do it sometimes is by quoting his comments (hence the quotation marks)
Ujm,
People shouldn’t be in kollel?
Ujm,
People shouldn’t be in kollel?
“Just open the Chumash. Did you see chassidim complaining about the Rebbe the way Jews complained about Moshe? Caze clozed.
They were the misnagdim 😉
You had some Jews against Moshe and others extremely devoted.
Think about Yehoshua, Kalev, the Leviim, etc.“I wonder if the נוצרים called the פרושים misnagdim too 🤔
They probably did
Shor Yoshuv in Far Rockaway?
Qwerty,
I will tell you b’lev shalem that I don’t hate you I can ask legitimate questions on a person (I’ve asked them on gedolim) I want to understand, that’s all I want
I’ve asked questions on Dr Pepper on other threads and we agree on most (if not all) issues, I ask questions on the Lubavitchers here, I don’t hate them either (might think they’re a little interesting but that’s a different story) I’ve asked questions on CTlawyer, to which he explained himself and his philosophy I don’t hate the democrats
An umpire calls balls and strikes as he sees it, he doesn’t hate the players
You have stated your position and I’m impressed, you honestly said you could be hypocritical (I don’t know if I can find that from other posters in the CR)
Anyways I’m sorry you got insulted, I just want to understand your position and it seems like I do now
“I dislike Democrats. Deeply. But I happen to dislike dishonesty more. Sure Biden has never been a friend to isreal in the past. But we owe him a tremendous debt of Hakaras Hatov for how he acted since October 7, for the most part.“
And Hakaras Hatov means we should vote for someone that probably wasn’t involved in any of the decisions?
“but the sheer hypocrisy of chanting “Lock her up! Lock her up!” then doing nearly the exact same thing.“
Sorry but like I said before Hillary was never president, Trump was
“So I admit that my writing elicits venom, however, I can also be pleasant and complimentary as evidenced by my exchanges with yankel berel, always ask and others. The two I mentioned, on the other hand, are always nasty and condescending.“
Basically anyone that disagrees with you you can be condescending to, I get it and the people that agree with you, you compliment them
Makes a lot of sense 🙄
“Let’s say you’re right and I’m a hypocrite for calling Lubavichers idolaters and attending a Chabad shul. So which D’Oraysa or Rabonon have I violated? The answer is none.“
The עבירה of מדבר שקר תרחק there are probably others too
“Last year you tried to have me taken off YWN because I said I watch TV which, as my rav said, isn’t even Rabbinically forbidden.“
Never did that, just showed your hypocrisy then too
“On the other hand, you refuse to criticize the Lubavichers who have openly stated that their Rebbe is god.“
I have, even on this thread (and you’ve even supported my stance
You’re 0 for 3, I guess you’re having a bad night
😃
“qwerty613
Participant
No one should pay attention to qwarty 613,He is really crazy and hates Lubavitchers because he couldn’t do the semicha by them.That is the reason and not anything else.“Huh?
Mods is there a second account we don’t know about?
“I can not decide between B Hillel and B Shammai on whether to sit or stand during Shma, so I am skipping it tonight, bli neder.“
You should have said
“I can not decide between B Hillel and B Shammai on whether to sit or lie down during Shma, so I am skipping it TONIGHT, bli neder.“
B Shammai would say to stand during the day
No where did I say I hate you
Asking questions and calling someone out for a double standard isn’t hate
But hey, people do what you’re doing
People call out Harris, Adams, and a lot of other people and their “defense” is the other person is a easier/anti semite/ bigot
So I guess you’re in good company
Qwerty,
You know people can disagree but owning up to something is what makes a man
You never answered my question, just deflected btw
I have been respectful to you and if you think calling me names because I’m calling you out is mature then I guess I now know who I’m dealing with
“To coffee
Shame on you for siding with the idolaters. You’re still angry at me because I said last year that I watch TV“
Shame on you for deflecting, you go daven in a מקום ע״ז
You’re just upset that I’m calling you out (rightfully so)
Aaq,
Beis Shammai says to lie down at night
“Of course that’s not my call. Hashem has to make any such decisions and until our Gedolim pasken that one can’t daven in a place with Lubavichers I’m certainly permitted to do so.”
So that either means that your previous statement is in disagreement with the gedolim (since they didn’t say it openly yet you did) or you’re going against what they want
Qwerty,
I want to ask you a question
If you asked a gadol if you can go to a Yankees game and he says “no” does that mean you can go to a Mets game?
Contrary to common misconception (ahem GH) the reason music is assur is because of dancing, if the music isn’t for dancing (ie to calm oneself down, keep oneself up, or to awake emotions) then it’s fine
By ”above” Reb Eliezer means “the Big Guy”
“As far as I’m concerned every Lubavicher has the Din of an Elokistim because no one criticizes the maniacs like you and Cunin who claim that the Rebbe is god.”
Sorry for calling you out qwerty however now it seems like Lostspark has a point
If you believe ALL lubavitchers are עובד ע״ז then you can’t daven in a בית ע״ז,(ie a chabad house)