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there are two gemaras that i know off the top of my head dealing with it 1 is the gemara in berachos that says if someones worried about ayin hara he should say i’m a descendant of yosef hatzadik which ayin hara has no power over (says as a general statement even though might not be a descendant)
the second gemara i’m just learning in bava basra that one neighbor can force the other neighbor to help him build a wall between their two properties b/c he’s afraid of hezek ayin which some meforshim say is maaris ayin (others say it means wants privacy)
sorry sister bear the punch line is down there where everyone’s waiting to be served punch 😉
segulos have some source because EVERYONE has a minhag to do simanim on rosh hashana
thank you!
I’m not demanding sources for maasehs i’m demanding sources for halacha
“To paraphrase the Chofetz Chaim: Just as one may not denigrate another person, one may not denigrate oneself”
sounds like a halacha to me
yeah R. moderator how did you change this to saying lashon hara about yourself wouldn’t this go under the LASHON HARA READ AT YOUR OWN RISK post
fine R. Moderator i can’t fond a source, you win!
but isn’t it strange that the chofetz chaim didn’t put it in his sefer (he did multiple reprintings, i know, of the mishnah brurah granted it’s not shmiras halashon) usually one would learn halachos from a sefer on halacha not a maaseh
“To paraphrase the Chofetz Chaim: Just as one may not denigrate another person, one may not denigrate oneself…self denigration is not anivus (humility). Anivus is self-effacement, which is a commendable trait; self denigration is not.” where is this quote from the Chofetz Chaim Ive always heard the story about the Chofetz Chaim dengrating himself on a train and someone slapped him and he said one can’t say lashon hara about himself but then i heard someone say that his grandaughter said that story isn’t true
so i want a source
for one a superstition is saying this thing is making it happen
where as opposed to going to the kosel for instance you want Hashem to listen to your tefillos and the best place to do it is at the kosel b/c Hashem has more rachamim for people that daven there. Im guessing the 40 days is b/c moshe rabbeinu davened for 40 days and was answered
this is my humble opinion
sorry for the corny joke (it’s my style)
a frenchman and a czechoslovakian were going on a bear hunt. Along their hunt they are spotted by two bears, a male and a female and are promptly eaten. Later that day the search teams go out to search for the two and find the two bears with stomach aches, so they cut open the female and find the frenchman. Therefore they concluded one thing and one thing only…………..
The Czech was in the male
oomis,
i dont know about you but i didn’t feel that way (maybe it’s a girl thing)
step 1: Daven
step 2: deny everything
(you’re allowed to lie mifnei darchei shalom)
Pasuteh Yid ,
why would they think they were ugly and not some other problem and find out what it is and then work on him/herself
popa I sort of did in a way
I figured i wouldn’t know the guy since i’m not from where you are and probably never even heard of the guy.
You know there’s an issur of lifnei eeveir so whenever someone would check it you might be getting a lav, right?
btw there are ads for isiah 53 in flatbush too
I love arguing with them
Just start out what do you believe JC is, the son of G-d, G-d himself or the messiah
to whatever answer you can just mop the floor with them
i’m just starting to read the posts but this is my take on it.
if the guy/girl had to fly in i would definitely say yes there should be a protocol (Actually happened to me and i was stuck on the second date with no one to go out with)
if not then I think 1 date is fine if it’s not a matzav, but if the guy/girl is being nitpicky i say give it a second try
I know Yekkes give their kids names that don’t fully match like that (wouldn’t mark be better for meir)
SJS I hope that’s not on your birth certificate
Moshe to Mo usually (it gets annoying when a goy says mo-SHE)
well seeyouonshabbos.com has reviews by other hosts and refrences for each guest
there are tehillim posts here (thinking about someone else)
there is a site called seeyouonshabbos.com (that coincedentally my mother-in-law was talking about a min ago) to invite people that need shabbos meals
and as i said before a chatzer is an inclosed part of a person’s property so can be considered penimah
that could be that it doesn’t apply for working but for shmoozing in the street it for sure applies (meaning if it’s l’toeles)
sj i’ll post them again
sj, see my comments, i addressed both.
Max Well,
Just to be fair
you were quoting sfardi sources (rambam, shulchan aruch). but it’s true, if the rema doesn’t quote it, you can’t say he holds it!
re: Col Kavoada etc.
1. The MaHari Vayl ruled that we pasken that that Col Kavoda Bas Melech Pinima is not the din. He has an offenna gemora in Gitten. The Ramoh paskened like the MaHari Vayl.
2. The mesorah of B’Nei Ashkenaz is like the MaRi Vayl, witness all the doros where the women ran stores and businesses to support their husbands (incl. many gedolim) learning
mywife 1. who’s the MaHari Vayl
2. where’s this Ramoh
3. that could be that it doesn’t apply for working but for shmoozing in the street it for sure applies (meaning if it’s l’toeles)
ok i understand your logic (i dont agree with it but i understand it)
ok oomis let’s try this again.
when someone asked this goy what are you did he say i’m a goy?
NO! he said i’m a chassid of this rebbe. He wanted everyone to think that (even though he wasn’t really) therefore he “identified himself as BELONGING to that group” even though he didn’t share their hashkafah
here’s the definition from webster’s dictionary online : to cause to be or become identical b : to conceive as united
if you look at b: to conceive as united did people concieve this nazi as united with the chassidim, yes
did he become identical
identical (2nd definition in webster) : having such close resemblance as to be essentially the same
Yes
now do you understand
sof davar,
the chitzonis is meorer the penimis
There is a story of a Nazi who hid out amongst chassidim,and they never realized he was not one of them, until he was recognized by one of his victims. (That story may or may not be apocryphal – I have not checked it out).
that is exactly the point! he identified himself as belonging to that chassidic group even though he wasn’t really a chassid
do you understand now oomis
whatever smartcookie i figured it out from the wolf
thaks a little confusing though
let’s try it If you say so. Not having seen the sefer he’s quoting from, I can only guess at what he means. Since people usually go swimming in a bathing suit and he’s saying it’s assur based on that sefer, I concluded that he meant that it’s assur to see one’s wife in a bathing suit (or, by extension, in any non-tznius fashion). That was my understanding of his statement. Nonetheless, I could be wrong. It wouldn’t be the first time
please explain how to use em tags(ive asked before no one answered) i would greatly appreciate it.
“To be fair, I think he means “dressed in a tznius fashion.”
The Wolf”
“And yes I have a source — the Kedushas Shoshanim perek 17 seif 4 sez yur not aloud to look at yur wife when shes undressed even when tahor.”
it doesn’t sound like undressed means dressed in an untznius fashion
For the 10000000th time: MIXED SWIMMING IS ASSUR. You cant swim mixed – even with yur wife. And yes I have a source — the Kedushas Shoshanim perek 17 seif 4 sez yur not aloud to look at yur wife when shes undressed even when tahor. Unless you swim fully clothed yur oiver on that. Theres no reason to say that theres an exception to mixed swimming with yur wife, just liek theres no exception to lashon hara with yur wife, or eating kosher with yur wife or any other mitzvah.
ummmm. a bathing suit means she is dressed
anyway you’re quoting an obscure source. It’s not in the shulchan aruch, mishnah brurah, tur, taz, shulchan aruch harav, kitzur shulchan aruch it’s called the kedushas shoshanim and you say it’s assur
How many times do I have to repeat myself? When someone identifies themselves as chassidish, of course it doesn’t make him more of a chosid, I only said that wearing chassidishe garb says that this person idendifies himself as belonging to the chassidishe group. DO YOU REALLY NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE?????
no they don’t (oomis and wolfish)
moderator,
its kiosk
Reb Mendel of Kiosk
moderator,
you know now everyone thats here got your email adress (if its real) now if i can just find people that need to send chain mail
“I think most people would”
most people would what (i don’t know if youre agreeing or disagreeing)
netz is 5:48
earliest i found on godaven.com is 6 at kaj
mbachur, labels do nothing more than label you for purposes of putting you in a box for the convenience of others
in other words it explains why people write what they write a yeshivish person won’t write what a MO person would
There are certain circumstances where labeling is very helpful (like in a chat room) i totally agree you shouldn’t label kids in school.
But when at work, a chassidish yungerman and a yeshivish yungerman who both have a beard and might have their peyos tied up behind their ears or under their yarmulka or cap, and both have a white shirt and black pants might be harder to distinguish.
Yeshivish yungermen don’t have peyos sooooo long that they can tie them under their yarmulka or cap it only stays as long to put them behind ones ears
I have also seen many Chassidish women walk around the Pool area and even walk from the pool to the beach in their bathing suits without cover-ups in Maimi. Does that mean that it is acceptable among Chassidim for women to do that? Or for women to go mixed swimming in Miami? NOOOOOOOOO! But that doesn’t stop them from doing it when they are away from their daled amos! Is it fair to say that they look down upon us as if WE were goyim and they think it is ok to behave this way in front of goyim? That is the problem with LABELING!
as i’ve said before to wolfish if I see someone wearing a streimel iwould assume the person is chassidish (not exactly a chassid though)
So by not even seeing us or knowing us, by just reading our comments and our opinions, many of you have labeled us MO, Yeshivish, Chareidi, Chasidish for no reason at, especially when labels are completely unnecessary.“labels” define why you write what you write.
a yeshivish person won’t write what a MO would
now i see it thanks
i don’t know why my post wasn’t put in but everyone is saying what i wanted to (which might explain it)
All your posts are up. Send it in again if missing.
how do you make a quote italicized?
“… if I suddenly start wearing a streimel, does that automatically make me a chassid?”
i didn’t think i needed to explain this but i guess i do.
if a goy started to wear a yarmulke does that make him jewish?
no but if people saw him they would automatically assume (incorectly of course) that he’s jewish
there’s an old saying, the clothes make the man
thank you R. Moderator, you portrayed what i was trying to explain perfectly.
MO is whatever anyone who self-declares as MO wants it to be. There was no founding movement with MO, as there was with Chasidus, the Mussar movement and even illigitimate movements like Reform and Zionism.
To some MO means mixed swimming and TV. To others it might mean Torah Umadda. To other MO folks, they reject even that. Since there never was a movement that got together and said “lets start a MO movement” as occured with the other movements I mentioned, there is no authority that can say no, your philosophy is wrong and not MO. Instead, when asked how can you can allow mixed swimming (for example) in your bungalow colony, the answer invariably is “oh, we’re an MO colony.”
wasn’t MO started by followers of The Rav
“Silly me… I thought what group you belonged to was determined by your beliefs and actions. I hadn’t realized that it’s all dependent on your headgear. Please forgive the ignorance.”
no, the headgear is an indication of your beliefs and actions
If you saw a person with a streimel you would say he’s from the chassidic sect (not exactly saying he’s a chassid) a black paper kipah is indicative that you aren’t so observant