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Marx did not come to hate business owners through hatred of Jews. The essay you are referring to is “On the Jewish Question” and yes there is an anti-Semitic element in it but he is arguing for the emancipation of Jews not against it.
I don’t know about the rest of his arguments but his criticism of sending pictures is certainly in line with many Rabbonim and Roshei Yeshivas.
From my experience in yeshiva, the guys who spend a lot of time ranting about MO/Zionism weren’t the really chashuve bochurim. The chashuve bochurim were quiet and spend most of their time learning.
It was also the case that the flip outs in the yeshiva world were always more vehement in their tirades against MO than those from yeshivish backgrounds. I agree with GadolHadofi that they are usually insecure and feel the need to show that they fit in by criticizing their where they came from. It always got annoying at a certain point and just became childish.
Rav Moshe’s teshuva that is being referred to is interesting because some of the sevaras in there contradict what he says in an earlier teshuva-Even Haezer 1:56.
Imagine asking your wife to go see how tznius other woman are….
I find its essays very generic.
I think I recall Rabbi Berel Wein once saying that the whole excuse of davening late was to have more kavanah and deveikes during davening but today you have some Chasidim davening late and without kavanah so it’s the worst of both worlds.
@coffee addict
And there aren’t Chasidim that shmooze or on their phone during davening? The institutionalizing of missing zman tefilah by Chasidim is not something to be overlooked.
“MO are anusim and are not considered outside the fold of Yiddeshkeit on any level. They’re following their rov, which makes them blameless. As far as they know, in their due diligence, they’re totally shomer torah u’mitzvos.”
“A mechalel shabbos loses the din of a yisroel.”
So as a talmid of Rabbi Belsky, AviraDeArah, do you consider the Chasidim that carry in Boro Park not part of Klal Yisrael? Or are you only harsh on MO but become the biggest apologist when it comes to Chasidim?
You have a weird pshat into who qualifies as being part of the Jewish nation. Yes, Rav Saadya Gaon is saying that only the Torah makes us Jewish but the same Torah says that someone who is born of a Jewish mother is Jewish. Pshatus is that secular Jews are part of am yisrael.
And I just want to clarify from above that many Chassidim learn properly and don’t miss zman tefilah. But a lot don’t. And I don’t understand why when people compare MO to Chasidish that these variables are left out. Is a frum serious YU boy who keeps halacha but may be a bit more exposed to secular culture worse than a Chasid who doesn’t learn properly and davens at 11?
When we compare Chasidim to MO do we include missing zman tefila, bad derech halimud and (for some in Boro Park) chillul Shabbos?
I think it’s quite reasonable that the government does not want to subsidize a culture that promotes having huge families without having the means to support them.
If you look at just the numbers for Kiryas Joel you see that the median household income is 40K. No non-Jews there to skew the data.
The point is that the government obviously does not want to have to subsidize people. If that hippie wanted to have 10 kids than getting a PhD in archeology and anthropology is not going to cut it. So yes Chasidim should not pursue such a career. But being a doctor, lawyer, accountant, dentist, actuary etc. – good clean professions that many frum erhlich Litvish people do will. Yet for that you need college education and a decent high school education before. And if you look at the Agudah Whitepaper they quote a Nishma research paper that shows that the average Hasidic income is 102K compared to what they term “Yeshivish” which is 164K. So Litvish is better off and pashtus is because they have a better education system and many of them become professionals instead of businessmen which is a highly stratified profession in terms of income.
The reason that the poverty levels take into account family size is self evident. If someone makes 40K a year but has 10 children they are going to need to be subsidized. As opposed to a single person making the same.
What nonsense. British colonial policy was not intending to start Arab-Israeli hostilities. They tried to keep the peace for years in Palestine before pulling out because it was impossible to manage the diverse populations and the tensions/conflicts.
For Litvishe bochurim 23 is typically the best age.
“I wonder why most mir alumni send their kids there, with 3 generational families being the norm in mir, chaim berlin and torah vodaas”
There are a lot of 3 generational families in Torah Vodaas but it certainly is not the norm.
I’m not saying that the Zionists were successful in fighting off the Germans, (they never made it to Palestine) rather that during the Holocaust there was no homeland for Jews where they can take in refugees fleeing Nazi occupied Europe. The British White Paper limited the amount of immigrants that were to be allowed into Palestine. Had there been a Jewish homeland, things could have been very different.
I don’t get your point of nearly did, lemasseh it didn’t.
The Holocaust showed that the Zionists were right, that it was necessary to have a state where Jews can defend itself and find refuge during times of persecution.
” After the zionists came, it got worse than Europe too”
I didn’t know that the Holocaust happened in eretz yisrael. Did the “Empty Wagon” make that mistake?
rightwriter- I think that you just are glossing over too many major details that would play out if Israel actually fully withdrew and gave the Palestinians a state. How would the decision affect and divide Israeli society How would Palestinian society react? Will there be war between Hamas and Fatah or will there be a unitary government? What are the borders of this Palestinian state? What was done with the Israeli settlers in the West Bank? Are they annexed with Israel? How is Gaza and the West Bank connected? Who controls Jerusalem? Is the separation wall destroyed? Who controls the water supplies? etc.
There’s a reason there have been numerous summits and talks and yet this conflict is still unsolved. Nothing here is simple.
“can anyone give attention to the question, if pali got their own state, and continued to attack Israel, would that give Israel a valid excuse to obliterate their land since it would mean war? Would it be better for Israel to give them a country in that case?”
Just because you are being attacked does not mean you can “obliterate” a whole society.
Also you didn’t mention who would be controlling this Palestinian state. There would be a significant difference if it’s Abbas or Hamas.
“If they would have stuck to the UN partition plan and given them a state in 48…we probably wouldn’t be in this mess now. Just nationalistic, territorial garbage”
Are you saying that the Israelis rejected the UN partition plan in 48? I guess I wouldn’t expect better from someone who gets their history from “The Empty Wagon”
“Either they defend it unconditionally, or they attack it mercilessly, and Jews as a whole together with it, often as part of antisemitic conspiracy theories, while ignoring palestinian crimes.”
Oh come on. Look at what Barack Obama and George HW Bush have said and did regarding Israel or really any centrist Democrat or Republican.
So let’s pretend nothing is happening in the West Bank and just ignore all of Israel’s human rights violations. Great way to deal with the conflict.
@ujm
“The United States and the United Nations both recognize the Beijing government as the legitimate government of China. The US and the UN do not recognize Taiwan. And the US does not have diplomatic relations with Taiwan.”That’s because the US stabbed Taiwan in the back to improve relations with China in 1979. The US used to have an embassy in Taipei and even had nuclear weapons on the island at one point.
It’s absurd to categorize Taiwan to some sort of secessionist movement from China. Taiwan has been self ruling since 1949 and has developed a healthy democracy and economy putting it at odds with Mainland China. Taiwan has long ago essentially seceded from Mainland China, it’s the PRC that can’t get over it.
Taiwan is the #1 leader in semiconductor manufacturing worldwide. The US does not want China gaining dominance over such an important market. So even if you ignore the moral aspect that akuperma points out, there is still a serious national interest for the US to defend Taiwan. North Korea isn’t the up and coming rival of the US the way China is.
A lot of bochurim in Yeshiva live out of town from where there Yeshiva is so they can’t really vote unless by mail.
Honestly, I never heard of such a thing as a “topless bar”? Do you mean a strip club?
Would I? Probably not. Does that means it’s assur to do so? No
@AviraDeArah
Actually Rav Moshe applies that gemara to someone who needs to go to the beach and would be around pritzus, not just walking through. See Igros Moshe Even Haezer 1:56, especially the beginning and end of the teshuva.If you don’t need to be there, then it’s ika darka achrina. Kuvult implied that he needed to be at the simcha.
I recommend learning the sugya.
“To sit with mixed dancing is something I don’t think there’s any heter for.”
What would be the issur of sitting next to mixed dancing? Assuming he isn’t looking at it?
You through out halachos but you need sources.They say Iceland is the safest country in the world.
No yeshivish yeshiva would have such a thing.
“And had more people moved to EY earlier more would have survived the Churban Europe.”
This is 100% correct. Obviously, the Chevron massacre was horrible but it wasn’t the Holocaust.
If someone’s mother is Jewish, he/she is a Yid. So, yes Marx was a Yid and Ben Gurion was a Yid. It’s not very complicated.
” He hated Torah with a passion as much as a yid loves it.”
He was also a Yid.
“There is no such thing as a homosexual or a heterosexual person. There are only homo- or heterosexual acts. Most people are a mixture of impulses if not practices.”
-Gore Vidal
“that’s a normal yatzer hora, and it’s something every jew faces, especially in this era.”
Yet, it’s interesting how the frum world treats it as some addiction with therapy and special programming to help people who are involved in shmutz on the internet.
Source?
The idea that Jews were punished because they copied the goyim is a theory that cherry picks the data to confirm with it. Please tell us, how the numerous Jews slaughtered during the Crusades or in Tach vTat were following the goyim? Or the other pogroms throughout the Middle Ages?
Yes, but King Salman is aging and MBS is considered the de facto ruler.
Maybe try Queens
@Syag Lchcohma
But Joseph is a liberal?
“You can put an internship instead of a club onto your resume. I don’t know who hires based on clubs and, frankly, would not advise going to such an employer.”
Nobody hires you solely based on your clubs. Just like they don’t hire you solely based on your GPA. It’s a combination of things that gets the deal sealed. Employers like seeing that you are part of clubs, that you are social and have good communication skills. Ask any college career advisor.
Same
“What they’re doing is a sacrifice, both in terms of making students lose out on something that they (erroneously) believe is worthwhile”
Clubs certainly help on one’s resume. That’s besides the fact that people genuinely enjoy them and it gives one the chance to develop non-academic skills.
@Syag Lchochma
There is a huge difference between teaching math, science, and social studies but in Spanish to not teaching them that at all in any language.
“It’s the opposite – the ones who go to college are salaried and struggle to make ends meet like the majority of the litvishe world.”
This is so wrong, it’s embarrassing. The “majority” of the people in the Litvishe world that went to college do not struggle to meet ends meet. I don’t know where you live but if you think that Chassidim are super wealthy while their Litivishe college friends are struggling you must live on Planet AviraDeArah.
“I guarantee that if a hispanic “latinx” community wanted to keep their kids speaking spanish, and have a spanish speaking school, they would not be treated this way. They would be appreciated as diverse, etc.. no matter what the results of their system would be.”
Not if they had little to no math, social studies, and science.