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also, one thing i never get is that if the kollel system is so important, shouldn’t there be interviews. why is it that anyone can just join a kollel, regardless if they are up to it or not. shouldn’t it at least be as hard to get into as a typical job, if not harder? we should be treating it more like a Harvard or Yale then a typical community college, where all you need s to live in the neighborhood.
jewishfeminist02: the problem with the proofs you bring, which are the proofs usually cited, are the fact that the rambam clearly states many times that one should not under any circumstances make money from learning Torah! he even gave out his seforim free of charge!
now, when the rambam speaks about how the community should pay for people to learn, that is a mitzvah of a community. not to be mistaken with a mitzvah of a personal level, like working. yes, a community has an obligation to have a kollel, yet no one person has an obligation to be in that kollel. we, as a community , are supposed to seek out the best and brightest of our learners, and offer them compensation for their choosing learning our holy Torah over their choosing to do holy work (typical job, which is holy non-the-less).
a similar idea can be found in america’s justice system. everyone has the right to an attorney, but that doesn’t mean that every attorney must take every scumbag that wants to be his client. obviously a kollel guy isn’t a scumbag, and lawyers aren’t the best examples for anything {sorry cantoresq ;-)}, but the ideas are the same.one is a chiyuv one the rabim (having a kollel supported by the tzibur) , the other is not (a man not working and learning in kollel.
Mrs. Beautiful: i am sorry to tellyou, but halacha is punfarket. when it come to get getting married, a parents input is just that, input. they have no halachic authority to say yes or no to a shidduch, unless given that authority by said child. also, you say that at 18 the person is to immature to decide what he or she wants, well then they should not be getting married! the truth is, parents should be as involved as little as possible, which leads to a much better dating experience. myself and friends of mine who did the checking up, and setting up on t their own, with ADVICE from their parents had a much less aggravating dating experience, even the ones who dated for years. parents, when it comes to dating, are way to problem causing. they are close to fifty percent of the shidduch crisis, the other also less then half is people being way too picky in their earlier years. (this leaves a few percent for people who seriously just have no mazel, or that they are destined to marry later in life).
will hill: who said zionism need demolishing. maybe you mean communistic zionism, or secular zionism, but revisionist religious zionism is here to stay!
Bais Yaakov Maidel: you are very correct! Except for ending slavery, fascism, nazism and communism, war has never solved anything!
ALso, please add in the names of Jonathan Pollard who is in captivity for 23 years!
Yehonatan Ben Malka
oomis1105: what your doing is bringing negative proof, which is no proof at all. a mother who abuses her child or is indiffernet to them is not normal, and not something to bring a proof. if a mother only has adoptive or step children, then all is equal, and no harm can be seen. when a step-parent also has biological children, which is in most cases, then the love they are showing their own children will never be the same as their step/adoptive children, no matter what. if she treats her natural kids like garbage, more so the non-biological ones.
negative proofs, like the ones you brought, are never used in research for that exact reason, they are negative, as they negate the norm. a rapist can technically be a better parent then a non rapist, if the rapist only rapes adult males or females, and dodes on children. if the non rapist is emotionally abusive, they will do more damage. but this is abnormal and cannot be used as proof that rapists make good parents.
oomis1105: I have known adoptive parents who were MORE loving to their children than the biological parents. this may seem true, but it is not. the love is a different love. there are all sorts of loves in life. those of a parent, a spouse and to children. a biological mothers love cannot be copied, only mimiced.
sorry if i am coming off very strong, i just feel like alot of people are throwing halchos around for which they know nothing about, and this is not just a typical halachic discussion. the torah strictly warns about hurting the feeling of yesomim because they are yesomim.
Rabbi Peysach Krohn has said many times, following sports is no problem, even a good thing, as an outlet, idolizing the players is not. no posters of these people should grace their walls. just pictires of rabbonim, and jewish themed things.
tzippi: i am saying exactly that. it is physically impossible for a step or adoptive mother to have the same love for a biological child as their step adoptive one. this is a medical fact. a biological mother has a bond with her children driven by chemicals in the brain, created through the baby being in the womb. this cannot be created any other way. she can try and mimic it to the best of her ability, but it is apparent many times that it is not the same. my stepmom did a great job, but it clearly not the same. you say you have a stepmother, but you had her when you were already married, so all she is being used for by that time maternally is for advice, and that anyone can give, even your mother in law! as a child growing up, major walls are built psychologically between a step child and his/her stepmother. no one is to blame for them, as it is natural. resentment, anger, sacredness, feeling of isolation and that no-one is there for you is what a child with a stepmother feels. it is this reason why only a rov with major yidios in these situations, with very careful kid gloves may answer these shailos. again, this can be dealing with the feelings of yesomim, due to the fact they are yesomim, and should be treated in a way that to the masses is un-understandable.
i think i just realized what was meant as the kollelim are winning. they are finally going to have only serious guys! they haven’t been able to win this fight until now. now they can get rid of all the chaff and keep the kernels!
cantoresq: you say the sports players are no longer good role models, sorry to tell you they never were. they have been boozers and gamblers since the 20’s.
oomis1105: i am very happy YOU believe that children should respect their step parents, but you honestly have no clue about which you talk!
not all step parents are there due to a divorce. some are there due to a death of a parent, which i think is worse, as their is no true love being felt by 2 biological parents, and even the thought of it being possible at a later time, as in the case of a divorce where one parent may not be involved at that time, destroys a child. for a child to not want to respect a step parent is into cut and dry. remember the respect being questioned about is not typical respect. its parental respect, very very different. i am very happy your dear daughter in law had a close relationship with her stepdad, but as i said before, a stepdad and a stepmom are very different creatures. what a child needs from their mom and dad are very different. i love my stepmom, but there are times i cannot stand her, and for extremely valid reasons! there are times i had asked shailos, and was told under no circumstances was i to acquiesce to her wishes, as they were counter to mine. if she was a real parent, i would have had to! even though my father wanted me to listen to her, as it was not his wish per se, i did not have to listen. these are shailos that only a stepchild can understand, and noone else may question them. realize, you may be giving bad tochacha to a yosom, and bothering a yosom for any reason is a huge no-no! be very careful where you tread, for it is something you know nothing about!
as a child with a step-parent since i was a small child, no-one here unless a step child themselves, can in any circumstance understand what being a step child is like. it is great 90% of the time, but 10% is unimaginable. a stepfather is very different then having a stepmother. fathers create their loving bond through interaction with their children. so technically a stepfather can act no different then a regular father. a stepmother cannot, as her bond with her natural children can never be mimicked (it can come close, as it comes from carrying the baby from the womb. a stepchild to a stepmother feels no close motherly bond their entire life, and this can cause undue anguish.
people have mentioned here that it will fall under the category of respecting elders. that is a huge difference. respecting ones elders and ones parents have much different rules. if a parent tell you do get him/her something, you have to. if an older person does, you can decline if you have something else pressing to do. a parent makes that pressing matter go to the back burner.
i think the poster meant respect in the meaning of reverence. and the answer is no. at least medioraysoh. mederabonon, it is learned from the extra es in kabed es avicha c”ES” emecha, that all other wives of a father. (this goes back to the day of multiple wives). a step father may not have even this.
but before everyone jumps down the posters throat, just thank g-d you have both your parents. while seeing your natural parent taken care of does allow for some comfort in what you go through during your life as a stepchild, it doesn’t compare to the hurt of not having your mother or father there in your life.
jospeh: they are not winning, they are losing mega bucks all over. they are making yom tefilos and kinusim all over the place, are you blind?? the wealthy people who were investing lost their shirts, and those in business, are hurting as well, as purchasing power of the nation is drying up. the only store doing well so far is walmart. wake up! stop being so narrow minded and set in your eitzos that you are blind even to reality. there is no money out there. none. zer. zilch. there is so little money that the governmetn is going to be forced to print 800 billion new dollars, and cause runaway inflation. (which may be a good thing for the short term, as it makes the amount people owe, technically less, according to some economists.)
on a side point, what exactly do you do for a living. kollel? work? are you employed or an employer. or are you a still a bochur (i doubt this one, as your yidios in the past were pretty vast). im serious. i would love to know where your svoro of kollelim are winning is based on. (again, i am not sure what they are winning)
joesph and the rest of the “everyonebelongsinkollel” group:
your can keep on saying your svoros and proofs till you are blue int eh face of why it is better to be in kollel. what none of you get is that it is impossible. it is sort of like communism in the fact that it is great in theory, but it doesnt work. it would be great for everyone to be the same, and all have nice food, clothing, healthcare, etc. but these things cost money, as does sitting and learning, and right now, kollelim do not have the funds. they MUST downsize, or they will go bankrupt, which doesn’t help anyone. then we get no-one learning. what we NEED is for a outside group to do checkups on the kollel yungerleit, no different then when a company downsizes, and everyone gets re-interviewed, and we need to remove the people who do not belong. had this been done in the “7 fat year” isntead of what will happen now in the “7 lean years” it would have been much better.
The Rabbis daughters: you can agree with joseph. but i have an issue with the words you chose. no bochurim learn in kollel. yungerman learn in kollel. bochurim learn in beis medrash. see, a bochur gets married, and stops being a bochur (just like a bachelor). once the man is married, he is halachally obligated to get a job! this is unarguable! this is G-d’s words! now there are people that are willing to not partake of this mitzvah, and choose to sit and learn, and that is commendable. we should support them, but when we do, we should only be supporting the best and brightest, otherwise the system fails, as i have explained before. as you said that they are doing the right thing sitting in kollel is based on nonsense and propaganda, because halachically they are not doing the correct thing, they are batlunim (the term the gemora uses for kollel yungerleit). they are being mevatel the mitzvah of sheishes yomim ta’avod!.
jewishfeminist02: my mom is a teacher, i have aunts as teachers, and they all have one thing in common. they all went in enthusiastic, and within 10 years they were sick of it. it is simply due to the governments inability to do anything right. the hoops to get anything done is a classroom that a teacher must jump through just is not worth it.
and people want to give the government control of health-care?!?!
gavra_at_work: i would like to add to your “You are going to tell me the “Roshei Yeshiva” said we should expand Kollelim”. there is a simple reason that in europe for th emost part, roshei yeshivos and rabbonim were mutualy exclusive. because teh ball habatim needed a rov who had a sense of reality. roshei yeshivos for the most part live in the fantasy world of yeshiva (not a bad one, so no smashing me for saying such a thing). their job is to promote their yeshiva, and rightfully so. but reality is that econimic systems rely on real world rules, not ones made up in a yeshiva office. supply and demand doesn’t end at the yeshiva doors. when there is more money that needs to go out in the form of payroll to kollel yungerleit then there is money coming in through the form of donations, then there is a economic meltdown of kollel economic system. the only way to correct this is th esame that any company corrects this, slim down the workforce, or telling the weaker of the learners, say the bottom 50% to go out to the workforce. the problem is the yeshivos are only now going to be forced to do this in the economic turndown. when these kollel yungerleit, with zero work experience, are going to now go out to find a parnassah, it will be alot harder. had the yeshivos been responsible, as they should have been, they would have slowly released these men into the real world, so that their local economies could slowy integrate them into jobs during growth years. as t hepeople supplying th efunds to these yeshvos, we absolutely have a right to say how the money gets spent. we also have the right to say that alot of them are there for the sole purpose of not wanting to go work. i have plenty of friends who are in the kollel life because they want to take easy street, and have their in laws supporting them. for a few years they say. the whole notion of learning a few years is silly. either you will make it you life, or you wont. if you are not, get to the workplace asap.
oomis1105: sorry to tell you, but census since 1994 all show that whites are the majority of welfare receipients. Whites make up 48 percent of the poor, followed by Blacks, 22 percent, and Hispanics, 22 percent. they actually also come from suburbs, and not from inner cities. i have no clue what you mean by walking down the street who cant hold down jobs or dont want to. besides vagrants, which they have in boro park as well, there is no way on g-ds green earth you can tell a goy who has a job from one who does not. you are just afraid of goyim, which is ok, but be honest. its your right to be afraid of whomever you wish. i disagree with you that it is ok for jews to sit in kollel, when they do not belong there, and a large majority dont.
joseph, if you are so keen on people not getting a job, why dont you quit yours and join a kollel? or are you just talking the talk, thinking it makes you more religious?
Oomis 1105: “is that the Kollel boy is doing”. in here lies a big problem. he is not a boy, he is a man, who has a wife and maybe kids. he is not being productive. he is being counter productive. the things you mention are destructive, so you can say he is not being destructive, but that does not mean he is being productive. an infant also doesnt do those things, so are you going to now tell me that every 8 month old is a productive part of society.
joseph: you are wrong. the people sitting and learning should not be taking food stamps. we should be paying them more. the only way to do it is to lean out the system. it is way to big and is failing. we did not want to lean it out on our own, so now G-d will do it for us. he is going to make it so that only the people who can afford or really want to learn even through hardship stay. the rest, who are lazy bumsoir mooching off their in-laws, which is alot of them, will leave, since the yeshivos will start paying less (or in-laws will stop supporting), as the economy, and their support crumbles. your comment of
“Heilige Torah!…We need more Yidden learning….We need to encourage yungerleit to sit and learn.” is pure banter. ill agree are 2/3 of this statement. the Torah is heilege and we need more yidden learning Torah. maybe even the third, to encourage yungerleit to actually go to their butei midroshim on time, and not take 1.5-2 hour lunch breaks. but that is not what you meant. you meant we need to get more people in the yeshivos and more people not working. that is a poncy scheme. see, yeshivos do not generate money, they use it. as more people rely on payoffs, more money needs to come in from the top of the pyramid. but.. once the bottom of the pyramid, the yungerleit, overtakes the top, the donors, by too much of a percentile, the pyramid collapses. what we need is more baal habatim being kovei’ah itim.
someone here mentioned that disagreeing with kollel life in the amount it is happening today would be going against rav ahron kotler. to say such a thing is nonsense. kollel, the way rav ahron restarted it is very similar to what FDR did during the depression with social security. he created a system taht was only supposed to last up to 30 years, to get the ball rolling again, so to speak. unfortunately, like social security, we are keeping kollellim filled way too much now, and the system is going, like social security, bankrupt. it is a poncy scheme, like social security. rav ahron’s idea was to restart torah learning after the churban europe. he did not want thousands upon thousands of men sitting on their tucheses having to survive on their inlaws. i will never accept that, as teh gemora down to some of the latest achronim vehemently opposed making money through learning. teh audacity of people to say that it is better for them to learn then get a job is pompus. a large majority of tanaim and amoroim had jobs, and they were able to raise the dead. when one kollel yungerleit raises a dead person, maybe we can talk about how lumdish he is, and how he needs to be learning as a job. yes, there are many taht we should support, but i think that kicking alot of these people out of kollel, and having them get a job, which is by the way a mitzvoh aseih, and having them be koveiah itim, would allow yeshivaos to give the guys who truly deserve it a much higher salary, so they can live like menchen.
for instatnce: a yeshiva gives the salary of 20 thousand a year to 500 guys. leave one hundred, and watch the number raise to 60 thousand which is a decent salary, one that he can feel proud of, and one we can feel proud to have. this whole notion of the more the merrier is not jewish. many major halacha seforim we use today were penned by someone who had a job.
rambam was a doctor who only took pay from the king. (not from the jews he saw, he felt his parnossah the rebonah shel olam wanted him to have was from the king. he actually gave out sefer harambam for free to any community that wanted it. with the freedom to copy it as needed, since he felt it was what was needed.)
rashab was a banker
rif was supported by a community to write his seforim (which is a job, think artscroll)
ramban was a doctor
chofetz chaim had a store (which failed, i guess he was too honest ;-))
the answer is: GOVERNMENT GET THE HECK OUT OF THE WAY!
the last time the government tried bailing out single industries one at a time, it led to a thing called the great depression. yes some companies will have to die, but it is better then the alternative, all companies dying. yes thousand will lose their jobs, but millions wont have to. its a recession, lets keep it that way, and not make it a depression.
outlaw unions, and watch all the problems int ehis country go away! or at least outlaw them from backing candidates for office just like not for profits are not allowed.
if you are technologically fluent, here are instructions:
http://www.sticksite.com/tape2cd/index.html
otherwise, here goes. no way is truly free. the cost will be minimal to expensive, depending on the quality and ease for which you want to get to your objective, moving data from cassette to mp3 format.
there are 4 things needed to make a transfer.
1. device to read cassette.
2. way for data to transmit to computer.
3. computer.
4. software to encode raw data into mp3 format.
now they sell devices like these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/digital-conversion/85fb/
that will do it all for you! they are about $65, and come with all youll need.
then there is the cheaper way, but not free. understand that quality here will be lost. you will need a tape recorder that has the capacity to transmit sound out, meaning it will need a speaker or headphone jack. you will need to purchase a cable that transmits sound, as in a two ended sound cable, similar to what comes with some flat screen lcd monitors that have built in speakers. you will also need a sound card that has an input jack. some motherboards come with them, especially higher end ones. if you don’t have one, one must be purchased. you will connect the output on the cassette player to the input on the sound card (on-board or through and expansion slot.)
now comes the tricky part. getting the sound recorded. there are plenty of software suites out there, and the ones that really wok well, and can enhance the music to the point where all that was lost int eh transfer is almost reattained cost money.
now my suggestion is, since most of the people here are not technophobes, and these ways are pretty technologically advanced, would be to purchase a device like the Crosley Songwriter (http://www.valleyseek.com/product.action?itemID=21283) which range from about 150 and up. it will move all music, records, lp’s, some even will do 8 tracks. they are really easy to use, and make the process a million times easier.
hope this helps.
alos, why in the world cant the garbage be picked up during alternate side like in borough park in the whole city!
iluvchulent: people usually leave their cell number in their window.
oomis1105: we agree with you. but….. smartcookie thinks that you do not need to be attracted to the other person in order to get married. that is not true. beauty is in the eyes of the beholder isnt just a nice quip, its tru. the gemora talks about it all the time. but to say that there is no such thing as ugly is not true. maybe not ugly to all, but the term is used in a general way. a fat person with pock marks all over their skin, who smells bad, and is disheveled is ugly. there may be a person who sees past it, and good for them. but the problem is many on this board think guys are silly to look at weight as a reason to or not to g out. the fact that a guy has no right to say he doesn’t want to date a fat girl is ridiculous, and is reverse discrimination. it is as dumb as affirmative blacktion (as rush always likes to call it. you are saying the girl has a right to be fat, but the guy doesn’t have a right to say move on. yes, the girl has the right to be fat, but the guy has the same right to say i dont want a fat girl. and to say that its childish because they didn’t even go out, and maybe they will like each other, besides it being a flawed argument, as it can be made with every girl reht to a boy regardless of the reason for rejected the reht, some uys do not want to be seen out with a girl they PERCEIVE to be ugly (fat). that is their right, and no amount of persuasion or yelling its not nice will change that.
it is a fact that it is impossible to exact a year even to the dates of birth and death in the torah. we have no idea when 100 years starts or ends, as it was not 100 years to the date, or 400 years to the date. some years overlap here and there. we are approximating. again, i have no clue if the story is true, but using the years as reasons to say it isnt is not good.
jewishfeminist: “I did say, however, that I don’t think it’s fair ….”
one more thing, who in the world ever said anything in life is or has to be fair. life is not fair. life is just. fair is something you go to in the summer.
jewishfeminist02: “I did say, however, that I don’t think it’s fair to expect the women to change just because (some) men aren’t attracted to them. There is no reason why women should have to “fix” themselves to fit some subjective ideal of beauty.”
i agree, and they can also realize that since THEY are the ones realizing that people are finding them unattractive (otherwise this complaint would never materialize) then they must live with the consequences.
feifun: this year is actually not 5769, its something close to that, hence we have no clue when yovel is. the years we have are close up to a few hundred years according to some as to the actual date!
WolfishMusings: not that i do not doubt these WONDERful stories(i WONDER if the are true!), but technically there is no way to backtrack dates, years times, etc. we are missing a whole bunch of years somewhere, and we also, today have a fixed calendar, which they did not back then. the years in the torah do not always mean the actual years since creation, some are the years of kingdoms, etc, as the gemora states. but you are probably right, most of these stories are flawed in their first assumptions, that even teh story itself is inaccurate.
jewishfeminist02: “Would you suggest that a slim woman who has an ugly face should undergo plastic surgery if she wants to get married?”
No, but i wouldnt blame the guys for not wanting to date her! that is in essence what you are doing. liberals and progressives, like yourself (sorry never met a conservative who flaunted being a feminist), like to blame others for all your problems instead of picking yourself up by the bootstraps (as the great Ronald W. Reagan would say) and putting the blame solely where it lies, with yourselves, and making yourself better. if a person is heavy, unsightly, has skin damage, etc, they should try to fix it. no one said it is easy, but tough! or you can leave it, but know where you stand socially, that is all. DO NOT BLAME GUYS! it is not their fault, not even 1%!
can anyt of these stories be substantiated?
akuperma: unfortunately pataki was a republican.
chopnik: if you believe the 250 thousand cap, youre a fool. he has used numbers as far down as 97 thousand, and has raised taxes while in senate as low as earnings of 48 thousand! and i hope you work for a really large corporation, or a crummy small one, because good small to medium size business make over 250 thousand dollars and file taxes as a person, so you can lose your job when your bosses taxes get raised.
smartcookie, you are delusional, quite frankly, if you think that a man can marry a woman he finds unattractive. either that, or you are not married yourself, so have no frame of reference from which to guide you! you claim to know many girls who are pretty on the outside and not on the inside, but technically you are judging just the same. who is to say that the way someone rubs you the wrong way, rubs everyone the wrong way. i know many people who i cannot stand to have many friends. i also have friends who married girls from size 12 up to size, well, lets just say really really big. v i also have friends, who fit to the average, which want skinny or near skinny girls. call it the times, call it stupidity or call it naivete. i call it reality. when it was mentioned that girls should lose weight, it meant if they have a problem with the way most guys feel about the issue, the onus is on them to change, or stay the same and get the status qou. mens habits, and attractions wont change because jewishfeminist02 feels they should! as the saying goes, a fool is someone who tries something multiple times, doing the same thing, while expecting different results. if you are heavy, either boy or girl, and you are not getting reht, try going on a diet. don’t sit there and complain how cruel the world is. what is funny, when you look around at most of the older girls you know that are not married, wiehgt is usually not the issue. there are plenty of skinny girls, of not more so, that are not married. maybe it is because heavier girls tend to settle earlier, and may not be as pickier in the beginning. i have no idea, but weight is usually not the factor, or not the only factor.
mw13: “macs have better functions, better stability (won’t crash or die), and more raw power.”
WRONG!
they do not have better functions. they have the same functions. if anything, the pc does more, as there is a billion if not more times the amount of software written for it out there! wont crash or die, i beg to differ. go down to tekserve and see how many people are fixing their unbreakable and uncrushable macs! its nonsense that they are better machines. the hard drives are the same, mainly hitachi hard drives, which are the same more or less with the hitachis in pc’s, and the other leading manufacturers of hard drives. the basic difference is the actual software, and the way the mother, or main board works. again, the reason pc’s crash is 99.9 percent of the time due to 3rd party software.
gmab: if you are giving rights to animals, shouldn’t you be giving rights to unborn babies? the stupidity goes both ways!
eyesopen, once again you put the blame on looking for thin and pretty on the boys. this argument is beyond flawed. your uncle, and son for that matter, clearly do not find heavy girls unattractive. if a boy does, and most do, that is not the fault of boys at all. you can say society caused this from today till tomorrow. it technically makes absolutely no difference. attractiveness is actually biological. the human brain releases different chemicals for different things all the time. it will either release pheromones or it wont, end of story. yes, chassidim just get married to each other without any sort of “attraction”, but i doubt that if one found the other “unattractive” they would still get married. not being attracted to one another and being its negative – unattractive – are very different things.
stop blaming boys!!! girls have more stupidity they need before going out, and none of which is based on actual science!
cantoresq: as they say, chazzonim love to hear themselves ;-). i cant stand chazzonim. i like baalei teffiloh. but i definitely see their need. keep up the good work, reminding people that davening actually has a set tune.
eric55: though like you i dont think rav moshe gave a psak, at least for the public, regarding lift and cut, you are wrong about your reason. i thought like you, so i looked it up. turns out lift and cut came out in 1980. thats 6 years before his petirah.
PM: it was called lift and cut all along. who was your rebbe, and how can people reach him to verify?
pm: i doubt rav moshe would give a halachic ruling based on incorrect facts. the top blade does not come into contact with the skin whatsoever (i know this because i use lift and cut, and it is pure marketing. it cuts no closer then any other shaver!), if it did, you would get nicked. maybe he held it was assur, which even his own children do not claim, but that would not be his reason. it owuld probably be what his sons do say, that is is too close, and is therefor like a razor.
jospeh s: encoding what? what program exactly are you having issues with? you have to be more specific.
jewishfeminist02:it was after her rejection of a visa that HE brought her to his swearing in. not only that, but he absolutely knew his aunt was an illegal, and took money from her for his campaign, which is illegal! he only gave the money back after she bragged about giving him money. his entire campaign stinks to high heaven.
jospeh: you are assuming he actually wrote the book! many linguists are saying there isnt a snowballs chance he wrote both books, at least not only by himself. his 2 memoirs are clearly written by two people. he gave information, and they concocted stories to fit in nicely. (though his memory loss should bring into question hes age of 47. if he is losing his memory at that age, can you imagine 4 years from now. early onset alzheimers is a nasty disease, he should be checked for it. it could explain how the middle class keeps on switching from 200, to 150, 97 thousand. he could be going back to his teen years when 97 thou was alot of money.)
noitallmr: i think you meant definitely. but yes, hell be a defiant president. defiant to thw will of the people to live in a democracy, and not a socialist state.
for all jum,ping on me, i lumped yeshiva and kosher net together as they are similar in their makeup as far as networks go, and the assigned ip addresses to the service provided computers. the remark i made about customer service or lack there of was really about koshernet, and i should have been more clear. though i have met many people unhappy with both, just as people are unhappy with regular isp’s. i was letting people know that jews are not the only ones who have these companies, and since close to 30 percent of this country is evangelical, their companies have a much bigger market share of the “sanitized” internet. meaning more money to infuse into the process of filtering.
trust me sarah, i know plenty of how both “net’s” work, both on their side, with needing them to open ports for my clients, and from users ends, as many of my clients have these companies as their isp’s (or just email service).
noitallmr, joseph: i wont take it to heart. (btw, everyone agrees 7 is a dumb name, but They do have some convoluted reason for that number)
jospeh s: ill assume you are talking about a word document or the similar. here are the directions for installing hebrew: (its from a nifty site created by daniel petri, a yid who made aliyah years ago. its a great site, and very easy to understand for the newbie)
xp: http://www.petri.co.il/install_hebrew_on_windows_xp.htm
vista: http://www.petri.co.il/install_hebrew_on_windows_vista.htm
gmab: your wrong as well. it is barack hussein obama II. this is what is written on his birth certificate.
ok, before everyone decides what happens, and why people are coming up with the same ip address let me explain how yeshivanet works (or doesnt 😉 ).
a typical isp is unfiltered. this means you technically have a direct line to the internet. your isp gives you a ip address, no different then the post office giving the house/apt you live in a home address.
now yeshivanet, koshernet, or any other filter isp is very different. they have huge super-servers, or rent, and those computers are filtering the internet. you are connecting to an internal network on the internal side, no different then, say, a person at work with multiple sub corporations. take aig before the meltdown. chances are they had one source of internet service (could be multiple t3’s, but still one gateway to the internet filtered through their firewall). this internet trickled down to their mortgage company, insurance company, investment company, etc.
so, a person receiving internet through yeshiva/kosher net is really attaching to their network, as a vpn of sorts. when the moderator would see this, he will see many people using the same ip address. the only thing i ask is why only you two. there has to be tons more on a site like this?
as a side point, if any of you are not happy with the service or alot of stupidity blocked using kosher/yeshiva net, you can try the evangelical service providers. its a shame, but they are more pleasant to talk to on the phone, more curtious, and their services is phenomenal. they don’t block stuff that should not be blocked, like hospital websites.