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You can’t reduce the recipe too much or it’ll be dry. And more eggs than potatoes (I use loose, not bagged — which are usually larger).
Oomis: you’re right it’s basically done by then except it has to be a big kugel so it takes longer to bake and the overnight idea is that it’s more dense yet soft and moist (think melt in your mouth…) with no visible “strands” of potato.
Good luck and Bon apetit!
Sorry but with the right techniques usually nothing needs to be thrown out. Heat is always an option — more costly but less work.
And retreament is always necessary as they are hardy creatures — usually a few weeks apart — even when successful to ensure complete eradication of the next cycle.
Sorry, maybe it was you first?
Thanks Froggie. You can blame it on the strong coffee here…
Actually IIRC Sidi was the one that mentioned her hunch about your 2 SNs first, and then (I think in another thread) I was surprised to see that you were being open about it. And you also answered something recently with what seemed to be the wrong SN.
I hope I didn’t bust your bubble – as maybe I should have let the game play out.
Even in EY I don’t think 15 is a common age to get married at. MAYBE 17.
I believe in NYC the landlords are responsible for exterminating the bedbugs. (As unfair as it may be to landlords).
Bedbug treatment can be successful, albeit expensive, but only if the occupants are cooperative. And sometimes multiple units are infested so they must all be treated simultaneously to avoid reinfestation. The sooner it’s treated, the better as these bugs unfortunately do multiply. And believe it or not cleanliness is not really a factor, it’s more a matter of bad luck. (Although “clean” sensibilities come into play with how seriously it’s handled after becoming aware that one has them.)
My best advice would be to try to set up a fund and tackle these issues one by one as money is the answer to most of it…
Shopping613: I quite frankly don’t believe you. At least not in the US. 13 & 15 are definitely not the norm to get married at in any Chasidish group here. If you’re discussing extreme cults like Helbrans (now in Guatemala) or maybe Yidden in Yemen (if there are any left there) that’s something else.
And many Chasidim have long engagements, so if someone is engaged at 17 (which is young even by Chasidic standards, but possible) it’s very likely he or she will be 18+ at the wedding.
Zeeskite: didn’t you write somewhere that you’re Little Froggie? I believe that ship has sailed then…
Unless it was a bad joke; or you can pretend it was a bad joke.
Thanks Sam & DY.
It seems almost everybody agrees that after Chatzos it’s okay.
I haven’t read or heard about that Kikar article so I can’t comment on that. Any chance that we have a Meah Shearim resident (if Sam’s recollection is correct) here that can help us out? I’m still curious about that angle.
As an aside it’s funny how my posts were getting deleted but B”h sforim (links) aren’t getting censored here…
Thanks Halevi. I’m not sure poll is the right word, I want to clarify it however possible.
Sam2: Were you discussing Chabad maybe? Can you check your sources?
I just want to get to the truth…
Sorry Halevi, in case you’re serious. I wasn’t trying to be vague, and I did manage to get the gist of my post through this year.
All I’m asking is whether anybody knows of Mikvaos closed Nittel night – let alone 4 nights as Sam implied earlier in this thread. No need to explore the “banned” part of my post.
Once that’s settled we can continue talking about Shidduchim – and affording to be married – which is the topic weighing so heavily on our collective minds.
Wow the Shidduchim topic sure is hot right now but I’d still appreciate it if someone can chime in here…
Okay, so now I look like a fool… But all I’m allowed to say that will hopefully go through is that just as one may learn after Chatzos on Nittel night regardless of how Chasidish one is…. so no mikvah I know of is closed for Nittel as there’s a simple solution.
And since I don’t live everywhere or know everything those with concrete information to the contrary can chime in. That includes Sam2, who’s admittedly very reasonable and his posts are usually well thought out. I did not mean to hurt him, just felt this issue needs clarification.
Look, you can choose to not approve my posts, but then maybe delete Sam2’s. Or at least get him to name the Mikvaos as it’s misleading at best.
A nice watch maybe? Or step into a store like Eichler’s and see what catches your eye, or ask for suggestions.
000646: The police officer said he DID NOT have a taser in his car.
Also, claiming young black men are killed by white police officers all too often hence the righteous indignation doesn’t hold much water if you factor in how much more crime is comitted by this same group and that most officers in the US are white.
Just one example, Gideon Bosch – a white, emotionally disturbed Jewish guy – was killed by police officers; supposedly when they felt threatened. One may argue that officers’ judgement is often faulty under pressure, but blaming it on race when there were other factors at play is just an excuse to act out.
Sorry, PBA but I disagree. We have the whole USA covered, so only net movement in and out of the US matters. Compare that to what you are trying to estimate (% population growth) where many more variables are involved.
PBA: can you please take a step back and explain why we need to extrapolate the population growth data from birth rates etc. rather than use school enrollment data which is available and more accurate at this time?
PBA: We don’t really need to come up with all the population growth info you are looking for as we have school data which is probably more accurate than guesstimating how many kids are average per family, figuring out over how many years etc.
And YW-95: the younger grades are probably a better indicator as some boys leave for overseas/Canadian Yeshivos, girls to seminary, and some kids may unfortunately drop out. (Probably more boys, but that’s my opinion.)
It’s also interesting that although he didn’t ask for gender information at special ed schools, and there are presumably more boys enrolled in such, the rest of the schools still have more boys. And even if this gender disparity is due to actual gender birth differentials, it’s still much less of a difference than the grade differential.
Sorry PBA, but I did think of it. I specifically addressed “kids” not young adults before they are married. You can choose to ignore the higher grades if you so desire. As mentioned in the census report it’s NOT JUST in high school when the enrollment numbers begin to drop off. It’s from 5 year olds as the starting point all the way up. We need real data, and although incomplete for our purposes there’s a lot of relevant info. in that report.
I’ll quote (from the actual page 10, PDF page 18)
“ENROLLMENT BY GRADE
cohort through the 12th grade, at each higher grade level there is a decrease in enrollment. In the aggregate, over the span
of the elementary school grades, the enrollment increase is significant. Thus, the five-year-old cohort has 24,000 students, while the 8th grade enrollment amounted to about 16,000 or about two-thirds of the number in the five-year-old group. If we calculate enrollment from the five-year-old group through the 12th grade, the increase across the span of years is 100%, as five-year-old enrollment is double 12th grade enrollment.”
There’s the exact breakdown later. Incidentally, have you read the report yourself?
Thanks DY. And sorry, Lior. My bad. I read the relevant paragraph DY is quoting but I guess it didn’t register with me properly as I assumed (like Dr. Schick is asking) that it’s because a Jewish education is considered by many parents to be more important for boys.
But as DY mentioned earlier in the thread we would need to know what the numbers are based on school type & locality to come to any conclusions as to why the school gender disparity exists.
So I guess we wait for more info…
Also, I don’t think we need to calculate the gender breakdown for aliya as someone mentioned earlier because kids don’t make aliya by themselves, so we’d assume that it mirrors whatever the gender ratio is. (Not perfect, but close enough.) Dropout rate is something else but hopefully doesn’t apply (or hardly) in elementary, so if there’s a continuous decreasing trend throughout all grades I would for the most part be reluctant to pin the gender disparity on dropouts. But that’s just my opinion.
Many communities have daily/weekly fliers of brissim/zichorim & kiddushim so if someone is so inclined they can obtain some years worth and start tallying. But again, not everyone advertises, so it may fall short.
Lior: IIRC he was discussing private school students in America, not specifically in Jewish schools. Or is it something I missed?
So this thread and his response got me thinking. Does Akuperma belong to an organization such as Torah True Jews (an anti-Zionist organization) hence it’s all in a days work? I happen to find his posts well thought out and intellectually stimulating — just asking.
Thanks for the laugh Golfer… Now go do your homework!
Seriously though when you read the report and see the astronomic Yeshiva & Chasidic enrollment growth from year to year ka”h (I.e. The lower the grade the more students enrolled, with the exception of 4 year olds) it’s almost impossible to believe that the age gap is not a factor in the shidduch crisis.
On page 17, footnote 6 in his latest census report Dr. Schick writes that he will compile a report to address the gender issue. So that information will likely be available in the near future.
Just thought I’d chime in about that, and perhaps get some of you to stop bickering a little about lack of data and be patient.
It’s definitely sad, not irrelevant because his sister has children, who probably now know they’re Jewish and we don’t know what the future holds for them or their (Halachically Jewish) offspring.
However, I have a strong suspicion that O’Connor knew all along. He knew that his mother converted but thought she was Lutheran prior? For someone so into religious teachings I find it hard to believe that he never researched his “roots” or questioned his mother about her conversion.
This discussion reminds me of a story of a Rebbe visiting a rich guy’s house on Shabbos. When his little kid touched something that was muktzah the father wouldn’t admonish him because he’s too young to understand. Then the kid touched some expensive breakable Tchotcke and the father started screaming at him to stop…
I don’t remember all the details of the story, and I’d assume the kid was older than an infant, but I believe parents have the ability to set rules and enforce them WHEN THEY CONSIDER SOMETHING IMPORTANT. I haven’t read the book so I can’t comment on it, but the bottom line is we all need to find that “happy medium”.
Unless you’re a major fan of gefilte fish I don’t think you’ll appreciate eating it at all 3 seudos. I’d suggest you buy some herring, lox/sable instead, or make a plain old tuna salad. Good luck!
Sam: though I agree with you that Iranian Jews don’t want to be called Sefardim, as they are not, if you really wanted to be PC you’d call them Persians, not Iranians, which I believe has some German/Aryan connotations.
If you live/work in close proximity to a Yiddish speaking community try to locate a shiurim MP3 library. Depending on your Yiddish proficiency, start listening to either shiurim (or stories, if available) geared for children or covering a topic/subject you are very familiar with, for example Chumash. Don’t be afraid to listen to the same Shiur multiple times, but also find somebody that can translate words for you when you’re truly stumped. Good luck!
TS: Do you really think that all the 100,000+ that signed are frum?
I signed it as well, but I believe this whole White House petition site is just an old Obama campaign gimmick. Is anybody aware of any petition on which the White House actually acted, not just shifted the responsibility/blame?
I signed it because if CH”V our roles were reversed, rationally or not I’d want others to do the same for me.
Thanks Golfer for the laugh and reality check… The funny thing is that Oomis stated she doesn’t want to argue, but was really set in her views. Oh, well, moving on…
What I’m saying is that because these names were already transliterated by those before us, it has gotten some chashivus and uniformity. Spelling of names (especially by Gittin) is no simple matter. I may spell Adolph differently than you, the next guy can have another way of spelling it, and it can lead to a lot of confusion and problems as to which one is “correct”. I am not sure you are right about Psukim as there are names that don’t have a corresponding Posuk. I was assuming, and perhaps I’m wrong, that since English names are different many of them might not have Psukim.
Now, to throw in a monkey wrench, if I am a Bal Tshuva for example and want to give the ” English” name John after my Grandfather, can I spell it Yud Aleph Hei Nun? Nobody ever called him Johnathon nor did he have that on his birth certificate, and I think English names are just as holy as Yiddish/Hebrew ones… I know you didn’t mean that, I’m just trying to point out the difference. Yes, despite names like Yitzchok Eizik in Yiddish, using English now would be a disaster… Yiddish names with all their imperfections are pretty much established.
Oomis: You are also ignoring the fact that Yiddish names are written with L”K aleph Beis which we all agree is holy, most have an official accepted spelling and almost all have corresponding Psukim (with the first and last letter of the name matching the first and last letter of a possuk from Tanach) that are easily found to say at the end of Shemona esra. If one starts with English names he’s essentially starting from scratch with no mesorah on spelling and there might be no Posukim that match.
Hakatan: Are you for real? Taking random L”K or even Aramaic words used in learning is just as logical as naming after a chosheve ancestor that had a Yiddish name? Please, you may not be infatuated with Yiddish names but you’re taking this a tad too far, IMHO.
And Oomis, we don’t know the original for many Yiddish names. Also, boys’ names are usually given in L” K or in a combination with its Yiddish counterpart, while girls’ Yiddish names usually stand on their own. So Tzvi Hersh was likely named at his Bris as Tzvi, or perhaps Tzvi Hersh; while Feiga was probably named just that. I don’t know why this is so. Many frum people don’t want to change the name of the one after who they are naming a child.
If you’re up around the clock you should be able to use help just about anytime. Seriously, can’t you grab the offer, then when the help arrives hop into the shower and take a well deserved nap after? Or do whatever else you fancy, get out of the house or whatever. Don’t think you could use more help tomorrow, you probably need the rest NOW.
People here don’t seem to care that Sullivan county has all year round Yidden living there as well. There’s the Yeshiva in South Fallsburg and a Small Viznitz shtetl — in Kiamesha lake close to Monticello — and more Yidden scattered elsewhere.
Additionally, many see viable potential for the Catskills to solve the Heimishe affordable housing crisis. To only worry about the summer crowd despite the huge number of vacationers is being unfair and shortsighted.
RD: cleaning needs depend on the size of your home, compounded by the amount of furniture, knick-knacks and belongings one owns. I think you are not aware of how much stuff families with kids have. And it’s not davka extras.
Growing kids constantly need new clothes, games etc. Basically everything needs maintenance, sorting, mending, laundering etc. And kids need a lot of your time and attention — from diapering to homework help. There’s more than enough to keep you busy as a parent without physically cleaning the house. Some women are spoiled, or used to it this way, but it’s not as black and white as you seem to think. You can’t compare your current lifestyle to that of a growing family, hopefully in a comfortably sized home. IY”H by you.
There’s one piece of the puzzle nobody thought of. If your true goal is for her to care for the home, not davka clean it, and she’s physically okay and has some spare time, try to explore different outlets for her to beautify the home. There are loads of tutorials online, from easy curtains to ” faking” art, designing clocks, mounting photos etc. If she’s not depressed and you’re supportive, it may be a creative way for her to gain some attachment and appreciation of your new home.
If you think she’s a little depressed I’d recommend discussing it with her doctor AND have him do a blood test to check her thyroid levels.
Good luck!
Kemach minestrone is pretty good. Since it has dried split peas it needs a generous amount of cooking time. If you don’t want too much sodium and additives you can omit or reduce the powder packet and spice the soup yourself.
Wolf: I think Halevi was referring to an old thread if kids of someone who attempted murder or suicide should be expelled from school. I’m not going to bother looking it up, but I hope I recall correctly. You kind of had a negative bent at the time. Some topics are disconcerting when the bigger picture is considered, although we in the CR are really clueless about a person’s actual personality.
Pharmacies sell some substance to dissuade nail biting. It’s something you apply (similar to how you would nail polish) that tastes horrible, so you get turned off. I don’t recall what it’s called or how effective it is. I also don’t know if it would last for a three day Yom Tov, but it’s probably worth your while to look into it and try to break the habit. You can also try making your own concoction, I’d assume with cayenne pepper–you can search online for ideas.
ROB: your comment is wrong on so many fronts I don’t know where to start. I just have two questions. Have you considered that the reason most Orthodox women don’t dress like “shiksas” is precisely because we are busy with this minutiae that’s making you sick? And what kind of Rabbi are you, assuming there’s truth to your user name?
Another option is to crush, then somewhat straighten out your piece of silver foil (you’ll need a bigger piece). No flat surface means little or no sticking trouble, except for the runaway cheese…
From personal experience I can say that whether the mother works (for pay, doesn’t necassarily matter if she works outside the home or from home — which can actually be worse) has a greater effect on how much attention kids get or if they need to be surrogate mothers than the number of kids she has. And being from a large family does NOT make the child feel like he/she is just a number. Kids are usually at different ages (except multiples) are of both genders with totally different natures, aptitutes, and very often looks to be treated like a pack. And every half decent parent is well aware of their child’s “Malos” and “chasronos” and makes decisions accordingly (simple example: is he ready for summer camp?). There are issues of jealousy etc. to contend with, but kids develop good lifetime coping skills from the challenges they overcome. This whole “surrogate mother” issue is complicated as many older kids actually adore their siblings and prefer to “mother” them. Everything in moderation and dependent on the child’s age, but you can’t set blanket rules.
Also, kids that were “spoiled” growing up, regardless of family size, very often resent the fact that they were given too little responsibilities and are thus not equipped to handle life, especially their own family. Final point: I don’t see any “burned out kids” from helping at home, am I really that oblivious?
Everybody needs to improve, but the people swimming don’t look charedi to me. Funny how the media portrays any Orthodox Jew as charedi when they do something questionable…
Maybe you can find or screen print a t-shirt that says “Lifeguard on Duty, Do not Disturb!” or something similar. When bothered simply point to it. (A poster would be simpler, if you can get permission to hang one.)
Prices are high because the production costs are (most of these clothing is NOT made in China) and because they have a much smaller market share than say Walmart. These companies are not all raking it in. Just saying.
Prices are high because the production costs are (most of these clothing is NOT made in China) and because they have a much smaller market share than say Walmart. These companies are not all raking it in. Just saying.