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Rebyid- Besides, you can set your browser not to show images”
– that’s exactly the problem, then you are blocking everything else as well.
Daas- “So don’t bother with a filter?”
– great solutionicemelterParticipantNice and Im sure it works well for you, but that wasn’t one of the options.
icemelterParticipantBesides filters don’t really works for social media and everyone’s “tznius” pictures or ” people you may know” who you really don’t and wouldn’t want to.
icemelterParticipantBut if you schecht a beheima and it “didn’t work” no damage done and noone forcing you to consume it. On the other hand if the filter failed, you already consumed.
Besides if you ever have to use a computer with no filter or whatever, same issue.icemelterParticipantLesschumrah- the reason for anyone wearing small brims was because it was cheaper and the wide brims were considered more expensive hats. Today it’s the opposite, and yes the small brims are more modern, although many have adopted it since it is in style. But if you ever want to know the litvishe minhag, see what Roshei yeshivas qnd many other litvishers wear it is a bigger brim with a high crown.
icemelterParticipantThey don’t always work well and can be quite an expense applying then to every device you own.
icemelterParticipantjoseph- you werent there and you are only trying to stir up peoples emotions. It was obvious in your comment in the original article and obvious now as well.
February 10, 2018 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1466369icemelterParticipantIn addition noone said anything about harshness. The word of the day was “hatred”. And no, I did not spread any hatred no matter how much the factual truth hurt. I actually dared sechel to point out even one thing in any of my posts that wasn’t true. I am still waiting. And I have sources for all and obviously links weren’t allowed to col website or others which I tried posting as proof. On the other hand I have been able to point out and have others agree with me or write very similar things sometimes even harsher than mine, so that must count for something doesn’t it mod -100?
February 10, 2018 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1466367icemelterParticipant-100 mod you are not the only moderator here and I’m not only discussing this thread. You must be one of the chabad biased mods that was filling in. Besides, none of my posts here were deleted and in fact like sechel said, I didn’t post so much to begin with. I stopped once the thread was looping around itself like a ferris wheel. But good attempt at trying to make me look bad mod-100. It seems you weren’t around this thread enough to even keep track of my postings.
Now let’s see if you have the courage to let this post go through.
February 9, 2018 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1466336icemelterParticipantSechel hayashar- if we count all your posts which were deleted, not published, and warnings you received from the mods, I’d say you beat us all with the hatred spreading. But obviously there’s always someone else to blame for your actions. Much easier that way.
I do not recall any of Seichel Hayashar’s posts needing to be deleted due to harshness, and if there were some, they would certainly seem to be fewer than yours. -100
icemelterParticipantIt’s very hard to make a good case for internet due to all the negative side effects that come with it. For instance even television back in the day when many Rabbonim were also against( and probably still are just most people don’t use tv anymore) even that was so easy to manage you were usually able to block channels either from the provider or skip channels from the TV itself. I guess commercials and some content still problematic but kids channels usually were ok or maybe weather whatever. Internet is not limited to just 200 channels and you get more than what you pay for when comparing to tv you get only the package you pay for.
icemelterParticipantZahavasdad- those things are much easier to be in control of. Noone is forcing you to print or read kefirah, talk loshon hara, or move away from makom Torah which that weak example really doesn’t make sense because if a person really wanted to move somewhere there are countless numbers of ways including horse carriage or even walking. It would just take a little longer so I’m not getting that example.
On the other hand like I’ve said before, anytime you go online or use Google you are risking seeing or reading something that pops up in your face which you didn’t ask for. Especially if you have a Facebook account, talk about the untznius pictures that are constantly fed to you as recommendations of people’s profiles, not to mention peoples posts that manage to go through even when you try to block everything, particularly since Facebook changes your settings automatically anytime they feel like it when they”upgrade” something. And fb is an example of something that can be a great thing communication wise/advertising shiurim or events, and it has such a negative side to it. It’s a lot less easy to have any control over that.
Even self control is hard for some people but that at least is up to you no matter how easily accessible something is. But when things are shoved in your face and links and sites lead to other links and sites, it’s a whole different type of wild.icemelterParticipant” I like sofas and Monet paintings, but I never tried to miniaturize them into pocket versions to carry with me, because it makes no sense.”
– exactly it makes no sense. I don’t even see the comparison here. Phones/internet are things we need/use daily.And from a philosophical standpoint, we can’t carry anything with us, and we should be aware of that.”
– what does that have to do with anythingicemelterParticipantAnd?
icemelterParticipantYou missed the point again. I said that’s not a good excuse. Maybe for smartphones it is valid since it is mostly app based and not much going on in your face. But when you use a phone or moreso a computer to browse online, so many negative images pop up especially if it’s an unfamiliar site you are visiting whether while your doing research, looking something up or anything in that range. Or if you just click an unknown site by mistake or mistype an address it already leads you to things you didn’t want to see and I’m not even talking extreme I mean anything non Jewish.
February 9, 2018 8:37 am at 8:37 am in reply to: What’s the difference between Davening in front of a mirror and a picture? #1466115icemelterParticipantYou cant daven in front of a picture. In 770 though they put pictures of the Rebbe and the Alter Rebbe when they prepare for farbrengens on their holidays. These are huge banners and they are not placed by the Aron Kodesh rather on the side of the shul which is actually the first thing you see when you enter (for those who know the setup). And it is there for several days while people daven. I pointed it out once to a chabad friend while I was there, an he shrugged “ya its not ideal but its there”. I have no idea how they let it through but if you want to see it for yourself go there before these specific dates.
icemelterParticipantUber_Chacham- source please sounds interesting.
icemelterParticipantOld minhag litvish huge, Modern orthodox smallest as can get, everyone else in between
icemelterParticipantkeith- dont worry im sure youre doing great judging by your modesty and humbleness. Hashem is the judge so lets leave it up to Him and not for us.
Rebyid- Thats not the point every generation has its challenges. Its just that this generation happens to have many challenges and easy access to them all. In certain ways we’ve improved and in certain we lowered down. It just feels like why was such a gift given to this world with such bad side effects. I mean if we werent meant to use internet/smartphones, why is there such a good potential side to it as well spiritually? And I get the point of its not what it contains but how you use it. Ya but you pretty much cant even go on good sites without ads and things popping up in your face on the sides of the page or whatever. At this point probably most people are de-sensitized to it all.
So if we are meant to use it, why all the controversy and struggle within Jewish Rabbonim and communities on what to do with it? Its not going away anywhere and people are much more dependent on and use this technology/internet whether business purposes/email or communication. But the negative side of it isnt going away either. And thats the catch. So whats the solution?icemelterParticipantWhy daven in a stairwell got to a room or something
icemelterParticipantGadolHadorah- Not true, there have been some sightings Iv’e heard personal accounts. Mostly in that brooklyn area though. Once in India as well.
February 7, 2018 1:29 am at 1:29 am in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1464173icemelterParticipant“These shlichim dedicate their lives to helping yiden.”
-So do many other Jewish organizations. Its their job. Many dont even expect a thank you or any other recognition.
There are also many who do it out of pure chessed and are so humble that that at most youll only hear of their name.icemelterParticipantcant believe the mods let you use that word of profanity
February 7, 2018 12:38 am at 12:38 am in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1464165icemelterParticipantI also bless the men from the neighboring offices who organize mincha and also a later maariv minyan everyday so that we can all daven with a minyan. Such mesirus nefesh, Kidush Litvish! Kidush MO businessmen!
February 6, 2018 11:41 pm at 11:41 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1464139icemelterParticipant“If it’s not a legitimate Minhag, I wouldn’t do it, but I don’t think it’s problematic in any way.”
-IF?February 6, 2018 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1464128icemelterParticipantlol mods i hear that! To be honest it really does bother me since I wish there could be full achdus amongst all of us. Not just everyone but one group. I say it from the heart.
February 6, 2018 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1464102icemelterParticipantYou have posted this same content over and over and over. Please move on. For the sake of your own health and growth. – 29
February 5, 2018 11:27 pm at 11:27 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1462949icemelterParticipantI get it, lets see if we can get an answer
icemelterParticipantiacisrmma- yes but you can try the best you can on the most significant items and those you know for sure have a link to their nazi past.
Arielski- Who asked for forgiveness? Even those old war criminals who apologized did it to get less of a penalty. Monsters who commited such acts have such a deep hatred rooted inside of them that their apologies are worthless.Its true that most companies/people might hate jews but if one of the companies blatantly admits to it, would it make it less comfortable to buy their products? Do you really need to drive a volkswagon, or a mercedes or buy an IBM?
February 5, 2018 9:20 pm at 9:20 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1462917icemelterParticipantToi- “and the Cunin video. ”
-Are you referring to “that everyone will soon know that its the Rebbe who runs the world”
What exactly bothered you in that statement?February 5, 2018 6:41 pm at 6:41 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1462846icemelterParticipantWhy should the lubavitch image be of any more signifance than anyone else’s image. Yet noone else uses that term about themselves. Usually Yodden just say chilul Hashem because the “PR” for Hashem is of the only importance to them.
February 5, 2018 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1462650icemelterParticipantsamthenylic- Dont waste your time, Im sure theres a “rational” explanation for everything,
icemelterParticipantzahavasdad and all those who make a mockery of boycotting nazi y”s origin companies. Its isnt a joke, there is good reason not to buy from these companies as some have direct lines to the ss. All you fancies out there who feel you are above everyone and purchasing “hugo boss” just remember that he was of the nazi party and also designed their uniforms which they wore when they ruthlessly murdered your families. And all those driving german cars because you feel the need, just remember that hit–r himself yimach shemo vezichro had a hand in creating and naming the volkswagon company. Siemens (also a german company) recently tried launching the “zyklon” vacuum cleaner and after an uproar they mentioned they had no idea about the zyklon gas used to exterminate jews and did not even apologize for the “coincidence”.
There is a long list of these companies who not only have an anti jewish past,but some even continue to this day. Even Ford which makes you think of such an american company, the founder henry ford was a ruthless anti semite, great supporter of the german leader, and even travelled to germany for a photo shoot receiving the highest medal given to a foreigner by the ss.
Its true that there may be many companies out there who arent fond of yidden, but they dont come close to this. These companies were actually used and proactively volunteered to destroy us.
Still funny?February 4, 2018 9:42 pm at 9:42 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1462284icemelterParticipant@Bubbyo “I know that Chabad learns Rambam, so I don’t really understand what they do with this.”
-Its very easy to pick,choose, and twist to your liking. Especially with years of experience.February 4, 2018 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1462279icemelterParticipant@Shlucha-“Or maybe they were asking for a Bracha?”
-So that makes it ok then?February 3, 2018 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1461712icemelterParticipantWhen you are not confident or confused with who you are and what you believe, you constantly feel the need to defend and attack. It is interesting that noone else feels a need to defend themselves or attack every other Jew on this planet or in the next world. And if you tell me that most Jewish groups dont get attacked by others, it isnt totally true and the reason chabad gets attacked the most is because they bring it upon themselves by proactively bashing other Yidden behind the scenes in their “pep” talk gatherings and telling other Yidden how chabad is right and they are wrong, and that all need to follow the lubavitch way.
If you would just keep to yourselves without opening up chabad centers in the most litvishe neighborhoods, complain about how there was resistance to it, and try to influence everyone to follow you, most likely your problem wouldnt exist. Its also funny how you complain about the fact that it was so hard to get a chabad center in lakewood which im totally not sure why thats necessary other than to try to inflitrate (didnt know lakewood to be such a lubavitch community). Its funny because im just imagining what kind of H— would be raised in crown heights if someone had the idea to build a Young Israel there which btw many would go to, seeing how the Carlebach Ahavas Yisroel on Albany Ave is overflowed with crown heights residents(which is totally looked down upon in crown heights and they dont have an easy time).
Also they forget in crown heights that around 50 years ago, the place was basically a flatbush/boro park with all types of YIdden and chabad was the total minority until most Yidden moved away.So basically its ok for you to barge into everyone elses neighborhoods but CV”S if anyone enters yours it might be too much “competition”, “they will lower us down”, “why is everyone trying to destroy lubavitch!” Just accept that everyone follows their own and not everyone is trying to be convinced by your “inspiring” 5 words of chassidus when you meet them.
February 1, 2018 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm in reply to: Chabad Shlichus – Risk of Sacrificing Own Family’s Ruchniyos? #1461136icemelterParticipantNo 5ish nebach, you asked him to pass you the ketchup, you didn’t daven to him for it. There’s a difference. When it comes to davening, we daven direct to Hashem and noone else. Don’t know how it goes by you guys but our mindset is different.
January 31, 2018 6:38 pm at 6:38 pm in reply to: Chabad Shlichus – Risk of Sacrificing Own Family’s Ruchniyos? #1460915icemelterParticipantLol, always an excuse for everything.
January 31, 2018 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm in reply to: Chabad Shlichus – Risk of Sacrificing Own Family’s Ruchniyos? #1460804icemelterParticipantEnough of bashing all the other Yidden outside chabad. I wonder what mod is sitting in letting comments through making it sound that all is true since some hateful people comment on their “observations” of litvishe bochurim.
I wonder how many faults there are in chabad that none of these zealots will ever mention, only point fingers at everyone else. Take these previous comments for example, when a lubavitcher has what to say about everyone else it’s ok but when someone answers back and puts them in their place then they are hateful.
But because some nobody claims what they want, then noone is allowed to answer back! That’s not how it works.January 31, 2018 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm in reply to: Chabad Shlichus – Risk of Sacrificing Own Family’s Ruchniyos? #1460799icemelterParticipantSechel haakum- and I’m the one spreading hate! Haha. You know how many lubavitchers I observed sitting in yeshiva with shorts! I was surprised when I for the first time saw a lubavitcher wearing a black hat and jacket I didn’t know it was customary by their bochurim.
Hml was smart bringing up the bochurim being tznius since if he brought up the women the argument would have ended right then and there.January 31, 2018 11:26 am at 11:26 am in reply to: Chabad Shlichus – Risk of Sacrificing Own Family’s Ruchniyos? #1460431icemelterParticipanthml-“They daven every day. Before bed, they daven, learn RamBam (I am talking about pre-bar/bat mitzvah) say Krias Shema etc. ”
-Interesting, who knew chabad chinuch was so much better than everyone elses? Daven every day? I cant believe those Litvaks never thought to be mechaneh their kids to daven “every” single day! Thanks for that crazy suggestion maybe they should try it.
Oh they learn Rambam? Dont Litvish kids learn Seforim of Gedoilim? Btw was the Rambam the only Lubavitcher sage of the past? Couldve fooled me since it seems you only learn Rambam while the rest of the world learn not ONLY Rambam, but also GR”A, Chofetz Chaim, Chasam Sofer and so on. But I guess its better to limit yourself to one book.
Krias Shema? Who does that anymore? Isnt that out of style? Why would anyone want to teach their kids to say krias Shema unless they are chabad?“They are all tzanua, no matter the temperature.”
-Ill assume your only referring to bochurim, then shkoyach for being “tzanua” in hot temperatures since litvishe bochurim usually just slap on a tank top and shorts in the summer without tzitzis as they sit and learn in Yeshiva right?“They are just as happy with clothes from Target as many kids are from the fanciest stores in Boro Park or Monsey…or Lakewood.”
-lolI mean “thats the difference between us and them” right? Isnt that your favorite line?
icemelterParticipantNight shift? Ever heard of Batman?
icemelterParticipantJoseph, I’m not sure you quite understand me. I referred specifically to ice cream without a spoon.
icemelterParticipantIs it ok to eat ice cream in public without a spoon?
icemelterParticipantForget even the embassy move, just focus on Trumps mindset. Maybe this will be a wake up call for all the non minded Yidden who think Trump will do everything to please us. Trump is the prime example of an ego maniac who makes his own decisions and has a final say in everything (and im not a trump hater just pointing out the fact).
To all those who frantically chant “his daughter is Jewish”! Well Pharaohs daughter also converted to Judaism. How much did that influence her father? Not much did it. Look into this weeks Parsha for proof.
Lets just take a step back and let things roll without dancing in weddings wearing t-shirts of “I love Trump”
Thats all Im trying to say.icemelterParticipantThat’s besides the point. But that only counts for “communication” wise. Fridge and the rest are totally separate unless you have a “smart” fridge. In a way all this technology that is available gives us the ability of super powers. Just imagine, a person so far away across the sea, can be reached in literally a second where you can either speak to them clearly or even see them! That’s kind of on par with teleportation if we compare it to that. I mean on an instant you can video chat and show a person what you are seeing on your end as if they are there with you.
Btw I think if I had a choice I would definitely choose flying. I feel it would help so much and be so relaxing and minimize stress. Even Dovid Hamelech wrote in Tehillim, “מי יתן לי אבר כיונה אעופה ואשכונה”.icemelterParticipant2 years to build is fine. But I haven’t seen them start yet.
icemelterParticipantNoone addressing the fact that technology is like having a power. Getting from place to place in little time, flying from continent to continent, holding a device and being able to have a conversation with someone miles and miles away as if they are right next to you, being able to video chat, AC to keep cool in extreme heat, refrigerator to keep food from spoiling, and so on. Just imagine someone from the past seeing the times we live in.
January 17, 2018 1:49 am at 1:49 am in reply to: Choson & Kallah Walking Together Into Wedding Hall – Jewish or Gentile? #1451334icemelterParticipantI was once by a chasunah, a BT who followed a certain “chassidus” and the girl was MO. When the chosson and kallah sat together to “keizad merakdim” one of the “chassidic” rabbi left the room stating, “it’s not our minhag” and it can potentially lead to “pritzus”. I just shook my head.
icemelterParticipantwinnie-thats great news. I knew you could do it
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