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In concurrence with Qwerty613:
Most of the Torah observant world is not Lubavitch. Most of the Torah observant world does not subscribe to these fantastic claims.
The vast majority of the Torah observant world concern themselves with the Taryag Mitzvos and the Rabbinical edicts.
Why wouldn’t the Lubavitchers consider that maybe everyone else is right and they are wrong?
The everyone else are Litvishe Bnei Torah, Chassidim and the modern Orthodox crowd.
Is it reasonable that all Torah Jewry are missing the boat?
I hope every level-headed person appreciates the absurdity that qwerty613 is highlighting!
We are mandated by the Ribbono Shel Olam to use our divine-given brains to analyze and understand what is right and what wrong.
Lack of thinking and/or “naive” trusting is not, and never will be, an excuse when we come to the Olam Ha’Emes.
My humble opinion is that considering the difficult situation in Israel and the fact that we have 613 Biblical commandments and many Rabbinical commandments, we should concentrate on doing what we know clearly are our responsibilities.
All this nahrishkeit whether the Rebbe is (or was) Moshiach is totally inconsequential.
Let’s spend our time constructively and productively!!
Every person must take self responsibility. Hashem gave the Torah to each of us and we must use our divine-given brain to make proper decisions.
I would like to stand up for Qwerty613 in a very basic fashion.
Regardless of who said what and who is quoting who, CAN WE ALL UNEQUIVOCALLY STATE THAT THE LUBAVITCHER REBBE WASN’T (AND ISN’T) G-D, AND WASN’T (AND ISN’T) MOSHIACH?
If yes, we’re all on the same team. If not, we are, unfortunately, very far apart.
LET’S CUT TO THE CHASE AND SKIP ALL THE LOQUACIOUS PLATITUDES!!
I write this in support of qwerty613,
Once a Rebbe becomes a “G-d” there is a real problem. If a Rebbe exhorts his followers to connect with Hashem, that’s terrific. If he tries to replace Hashem, that’s very problematic.
As qwerty613 is broad-minded and loves all streams of authentic Torah Judaism, the fact that he does not appreciate or respect Lubavitch is very telling.
To qwerty613
If you are open minded to all proper expressions of Orthodox Judaism and closed to Lubavitch, that says more than wo
rds can describe concerning the shortcomings and fallacies of Lubavitch!!