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Should they split the cost of each date or should they switch who pays from one date to the next?
JosephParticipantIn this case, chucking him out of shul based on the circumstances outlined is not an option, even as a last resort.
JosephParticipantComlink-X, The fifth definition in the OED: inanity.
JosephParticipantubiquitin: Most certainly it *is* relevant. And no, I fully support anyone’s right to *peacefully* and lawfully protest anything under the sun, however reasonable or unreasonable it is. But Garner resisted arrest. The officer had an *obligation* to subdue him in order to place him under arrest. If the officer acted lawfully in enforcing the arrest he was placing the alleged perpetrator (Garner) in, then there is no reason to put the officer on trial for doing his duty as a law enforcement officer. Note that putting innocent folks on trial is akin to putting the person through hell, with the months and years the trial will consume of his life and the fortune it will cost his non-rich bank account in legal fees even if he is ultimately exonerated.
JosephParticipantThe OP said between aliyos not during the aliyos. And the title of the thread seems to indicate a desire to chuck him out of shul.
JosephParticipantIf Chanukah gelt was established as a copy of a so-called kratsmuch gelt custom, of course it would be forbidden. But it is not the case that Chanukah gelt is given as a result of that reason. So your hypothetical point is moot.
JosephParticipantIf someone decides upon first sight that this is not the girl he’s been hoping for and thus wants to take her to a lesser place, he’s not mature enough to date while being so vain.
And parents certainly should be aware where their unmarried child is going alone for numerous hours with an unacquainted person of the opposite gender.
JosephParticipantSo the officer should have let him run how long? Should he have then maced him to apprehend him?
JosephParticipantIf the only issue had been someone being Shnayim Mikra V’Echad Targum too loudly between aliyos, no reasonable person would be proposing he be chucked out of shul for that reason alone.
JosephParticipantAnother reason in favor of having a beshow.
JosephParticipantRY23: And if the officer used his baton to subdue his resisting arrest, or used mace, and as a result of his feeling the baton or mace he croaked partially as a result of his unhealthy lifestyle, the same protesters would be faulting the officer for having subdued him for resisting arrest in whatever manner he did so.
JosephParticipantSam: I’m not claiming to be an expert on the sequence of events and thus am asking a question that you can kindly answer rather than referring me to external content. Please share your knowledge of what occurred and how my question would be answered by that.
December 29, 2014 12:53 am at 12:53 am in reply to: 3 most important qualities to look for in a shidduch #1051769JosephParticipantSo GrepsilBoorvis is Country Yossi in disguise participating in the Coffee Room and drumming up a tumult so that he could have a juicy CR thread to print in a future issue of CY Magazine.
JosephParticipantIn your hypothetical “what if” scenario are you proposing that Chanukah Gelt came about as an offshoot of the so-called “Christmas Gelt”?
JosephParticipantWhat was the officer supposed to do when Garner resisted arrest? Let go of him so he could run off?
JosephParticipant1) What do you mean by “if the girl doesnt end up turning out to be the girl you were hoping for” and 2) Why would you change the plans because of that?
JosephParticipantYour Rov, you indicated, would not do anything to reprimand or otherwise address this issue with the person you have a problem with. That should indicate a lot to you. The Rov’s not doing anything, even if asked as you said, says he thinks it best not to be brought up with him.
Much like the incident related above by Rabbi Weiss regarding the guy in shul passing gas. That is even worse than what you are experiencing and yet the Rov explicitly said he will not talk to or do anything regarding that Yid.
JosephParticipantIt should be left to the father.
December 28, 2014 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm in reply to: Why leave your dirty tissue on the table in Shul? #1212562JosephParticipantYou were wrong. Ask him for mechila.
JosephParticipantEven if it doesn’t happen all the time does not indicate it isn’t a medical issue. You cannot simply make an assumption.
December 28, 2014 4:23 pm at 4:23 pm in reply to: There is nothing wrong with ….and driving a car..take it from me. #1050611JosephParticipantHow do you know their chasidish, zd?
In any event, the point regarding E”Y litvish women stands. Try finding women driving in Bnei Brak.
December 28, 2014 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm in reply to: There is nothing wrong with ….and driving a car..take it from me. #1050609JosephParticipantIn E”Y the Litvish women who do not drive, do not drive b’shitta. Not simply due to expense.
The women you see driving in BP are not the Chasidishe. Frum people come into BP from all over the place.
JosephParticipantYou’re assuming there’s an available spot to sit at near the door. Or that he should awkwardly stay next to the door, week after week if it is a longer term issue.
JosephParticipantI would imagine the above incident with the gas was even more unpleasant to the surrounding people.
JosephParticipantIf a person is suffering from a longer term medical issue I don’t know that expecting him to make his seat to regularly be by the door alone is either reasonable or appropriate. (Additionally, presumably there are other mispallelim seated near the door, in which case it wouldn’t change the equation.) And I also note that idea wasn’t the conclusion reached by Rabbi Weiss in the incident I related above.
December 28, 2014 4:41 am at 4:41 am in reply to: BT wants to raise children without internet access… #1049912JosephParticipantOf course. But I am defending my comparison of TV to the internet, for the purposes of this discussion. Many folks, including here I believe, would defend PBS as being educational.
Only a small proportion of the internet, too, is worthy of being used by Jewish families.
JosephParticipantI once was at an upstate summer shiur by Rabbi Moshe Meir Weiss. He related that a mispallel once asked him to move another mispallel to a different table since that person was consistently, week after week, letting out gas. Rabbi Weiss told him bluntly that he could move himself to another table but that he would not C”V embarrass someone who may be suffering from a medical condition.
JosephParticipantIf he has a medical condition requiring him to consistently clear his throat, it may be unreasonable to expect him to constantly walk out to do so.
And it may indicate a lack of consideration and proper derech eretz by another member of klal yisroel for someone to berate a person suffering from such a medical condition by calling his suffering a “disgusting habit”.
December 28, 2014 4:27 am at 4:27 am in reply to: BT wants to raise children without internet access… #1049909JosephParticipantNot a great analogy, since TV’s primary function is entertainment, and the content is rarely acceptable. I don’t really see a way to eduducate in its proper use.
Internet, though, has a very practical use, and I can understand the argument for education in how to make sure to use it properly.
You have PBS and other educational television for children.
December 28, 2014 2:51 am at 2:51 am in reply to: BT wants to raise children without internet access… #1049902JosephParticipantShould parents show their kids TV, too, “to educate them on it and how to use it responsibly” since “I think it is mistake to think you can shield children from the world, because when they get out there and don’t know what they’re facing, the outcome could be even worse”?
JosephParticipantNo different than throwing someone out of yeshiva. Would you throw someone for this out of yeshiva?
Why is his doing what he’s doing better off in another shul? Or do you expect him to be excluded from all shuls in Klal Yisroel and told to stay home on Shabbos?
His throat issue may be a medical issue of his that he needs to often do.
JosephParticipantIf the church came out with a delicious, nutritious candy bar and made a religious law to eat it, would we be doing chukas akum if we decide to eat it because it tastes good? We got the idea of such a candy bar from them but it is something good in it of itself.
Absolutely, if the Church developed this food item (and mandated it be eaten) it would surely be prohibited for us to consume.
JosephParticipantHijacked? It wasn’t hijacked. The December gifts “custom” directly developed from the Christian holiday. You don’t see a massive gift-giving culture or custom on all the other Jewish holidays that fall in months other than December.
December 28, 2014 12:30 am at 12:30 am in reply to: There is nothing wrong with ….and driving a car..take it from me. #1050604JosephParticipantWhy is everyone focusing on Satmar? In many, probably most, Chasiduses the women don’t drive. In Eretz Yisroel (Bnei Brak, Yerushalayim, etc.) and some other places the Litvish women don’t drive either.
December 26, 2014 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm in reply to: Please put your contact info in your tallis/tefillin bag #1050374JosephParticipant“/[twitter handle]/”
Why would someone need to put their twitter handle, of all things, considering the myriad of contact options (phone, email) that most people know how to use versus a technology (twitter) most people do not use?
December 26, 2014 3:29 am at 3:29 am in reply to: Dating someone whose parents are divorced #1050049JosephParticipantWho said it is? What’s preferable is a child molded by two parents demonstrating a proper loving marriage by living it and showing by example.
JosephParticipantUnarmed felons threatening the life of a police officer cause their own death.
December 26, 2014 3:16 am at 3:16 am in reply to: There is nothing wrong with ….and driving a car..take it from me. #1050596JosephParticipantWrong.
JosephParticipantYou thought you were in Lebanon?
December 25, 2014 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm in reply to: If you could change the Shidduch System #1056202JosephParticipantFather of boy makes deal with father of girl to marry off their children to each other.
Mazal Tov.
JosephParticipantI believe this thread is causing a big stink.
JosephParticipantRY23: The offer doesn’t say it can’t be shared between two people, so splitting it in no way violates the offer. (Even putting aside Grep pointing out that the owner said so explicitly.)
December 25, 2014 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm in reply to: 3 most important qualities to look for in a shidduch #1051725JosephParticipantIt depends. For a potential choson or for a potential kallah?
December 25, 2014 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm in reply to: Dating someone whose parents are divorced #1050045JosephParticipantSam: You are echoing my question to oomis (who seemed to say it’s a factor.)
December 25, 2014 4:37 am at 4:37 am in reply to: Dating someone whose parents are divorced #1050042JosephParticipantoomis: Whether “will the parents contribute towards the wedding” is a valid factor in considering whether to proceed with a potential marriage?
secretagentyid: If the divorce was due to childlessness, then by definition there are no children of divorce resulting from that marriage. The point here isn’t about “fault” between the divorcing parents but rather about the resulting effects on the children of that terminated marriage.
JosephParticipantWhat’s an Israeli Google number? Google Voice only issues U.S. numbers.
Besides, does GV allow outgoing (and incoming) texts to an international number?
JosephParticipantIs sackcloth donned?
December 24, 2014 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm in reply to: Don't pay back a Band-Aid with a Band-Aid of your own. #1049509JosephParticipantSam: That point would seem to help if you underpay (since as you said their mochel) but not if you overpay (since it is ribbis even if their not makpid.)
JosephParticipantDon’t miss the last few hours to get your tefilos in for this special day.
JosephParticipantToday’s the big day.
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