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Are the one’s bottle in Mexico labeled with a hechsher? Otherwise how are they identified differently from the American bottled kaluahs. And where are the Mexican bottled product available for purchase? (I hadn’t noticed them for years in heimishe alcohol stores, but then again I don’t frequent those places.)
February 1, 2015 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056938JosephParticipantAgain, my point about style is that the differences are quite subtle. Perhaps you are paying more for “better” style shirts, but nevertheless we are not talking about major differences in style. Either shirt is essentially all white. You’d be “hard-pressed” (pardon the pun) to walk into a shul on Shabbos and point out major differences between the mispallelim’s shirts. (Or fedora hats, for that matter.)
IMHO, there is more justification for purchasing a better quality shirt than a better quality hat. The lower quality shirts, in my experience, wear out very quickly and the cost savings of the cheaper shirt is more expensive in the long-term due to the need to replace it rather quickly. Various brands of the less expensive fedora hats sold in the heimishe market, on the other hand, while they don’t last *as* long as a Borsalino do last long enough that the earlier replacement cost is less than the price differential to purchase a Borsalino when considering the time and cost. (And this is without even considering the loss of investment opportunity on paying extra to purchase a Borsalino.)
Also, with expensive longer-lasting hats there is the risk of it being damaged/lost and thus raising your cost even further with an early replacement. With a lower cost hat that has an earlier replacement date in the first place, even if it is damaged or lost it causes you a lower loss than a damaged/lost expensive hat since it is more likely closer to its replacement date anyways – and it cost less in the first place. And the risk of damage/loss with the hats we wear every day, either most/all of the day or at least three times a day, is not insignificant.
JosephParticipantIsn’t kaluah no longer kosher?
February 1, 2015 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056936JosephParticipantI’m speaking style, not quality. The more expensive shirts, like the more expensive hats, are mostly so due to a higher quality rather than style. There are subtle stylistic differences, but they are subtle.
February 1, 2015 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056934JosephParticipantA black fedora is a black fedora. What other styles would there be even if you wanted to change? It’s like a white shirt. The differences between one and another are too subtle to make a significant difference.
JosephParticipantDepending how far you want to avoid German products, here is some starting points:
Made in Germany: Most pencils (i.e. what you use in school)
Invented in Germany: Aspirin (as zd mentioned), frankfurters (hot dog), MP3, the pregnancy test, standard sizes for envelops, office paper, printers, notebooks, ring binder, filling cabinets
German brands: Hugo Boss, Escada, Siemens, Fanta soda (before Coke bought it – fantastisch, i.e. fantastic), Nivea, Agfa, Adidas, Puma
JosephParticipantPut a lot of crazy glue on the teacher’s chair.
JosephParticipantGerman products are known for being high quality.
JosephParticipantFFBBT613: A Kollel life is by far the best decision a new couple can choose. Giving up materialism for ruchniyus is almost a no-brainer. What you gain far exceeds what you lose. While it isn’t always possible for everyone to achieve this lofty goal, anyone who can would be foolish throwing this once in a lifetime opportunity away. To get places in life we all need to make some sacrifices. But at the end of the day you will be happy you did.
February 1, 2015 11:44 am at 11:44 am in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056930JosephParticipantWhat do you mean by “nicer finish”?
Regarding the shape, considering that Borsalino is the standard, it would make sense that the other hat manufacturers would emulate Borsalino’s form. And it should be pretty straightforward to copy the shape without much difficulty for a new hat. And like others mentioned here, I too have not noticed a difference in the shape of a new Borsalino versus the shape of a new Brandalino, Roche, Stetson or other brands. So I don’t understand DaasYochid’s insistence otherwise.
February 1, 2015 4:50 am at 4:50 am in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056924JosephParticipantAnd in your opinion, no one else makes an equally well shaped hat as Borsalino? YYBC says all fedora’s start off shaped the same; are you disagreeing with him or merely opining that Borsalino’s shape holds out longer than others? If the latter, we are back to the quality/lower-cost trade-off discussed in the beginning of this conversation (that simply amounts to an economic equation.)
JosephParticipantHertz is and always was American.
zd: Aspirin is manufactured by many companies, not just Bayer. Besides that aspirin’s patent expired long ago, Bayer lost all its American trademarks and patents at the onset of WWI.
February 1, 2015 3:40 am at 3:40 am in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056922JosephParticipantIn your opinion, Borsalino is the only hat company in the world that makes well shaped fedora hats?
February 1, 2015 1:57 am at 1:57 am in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056919JosephParticipantMostly shape. A well shaped hat vs. a cheap one makes the entire face look better.
Are Borsalino’s competitor’s hats not well shaped?
JosephParticipantThose two schools that accepted your daughter are great schools.
January 31, 2015 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056916JosephParticipantNeutiquamErro: Please define how they “look noticeably better”. Richer black? More classical bowtie? Greater similarity to the hats our zeidas wore in the shtetl?
JosephParticipantThere are two separate but true points: 1) We are better than others in that our prevalence rate, while it exists, is notably better than the non-Jewish world and 2) There are multiple cases of false accusations of abuse being alleged against innocent teachers and others.
January 30, 2015 5:36 am at 5:36 am in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056912JosephParticipantYou can compare the longevity of a shtreimal to a Litvish guy’s Shabbos hat.
January 30, 2015 4:54 am at 4:54 am in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056910JosephParticipantDY: That’s the point. It is just your opinion. It’s like you proffering that Coke tastes better than Pepsi or that apples taste better than oranges.
JosephParticipantThe problem with the restart fix is that it does nothing to prevent the issue from reoccurring.
YW29: K9 provides telephone support for free users of their program?
January 30, 2015 2:28 am at 2:28 am in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056905JosephParticipantI’ve never tried Brandolino, but Borsalinos look better than any brand I’ve seen, on anyone I’ve seen try both.
DY: That is all merely your personal preference. You can’t say one company’s style objectively “looks better” than another company’s style.
Additionally, every heimishe hat merchant that I’ve asked an opinion from said there are no stylistic benefits with Borsalino.
NeutiquamErro: What accounts for your preferring the look or style of a brand-new Borsalino over a brand-new competitive brand?
JosephParticipantSounds like you could benefit with a shiddich of a gentleman with a similar background, something along the lines of being BT with a very Chareidi outlook with a couple of asterisks to that qualfication like yourself. (Of course the details can vary.)
JosephParticipantSo you’re suggesting that the Roshei Yeshivos of Lakewood share a large part of the blame for fewer Jewish girls being able to get married as a result of the age gap?
January 29, 2015 5:57 am at 5:57 am in reply to: Are Borsalino hats more stylish than other fedoras? #1056894JosephParticipant2. I gave that as an illustration not as a science. My point being that depending on the cost savings coupled with the comparable longevity, it may make much greater financial sense to purchase lower-cost brand (and replace it more frequently).
1. More than one heimishe hat store owners (that sell Borsalinos as well as competitive brands) told me that the off brands don’t have any notably different style than the Borsalinos. And that the primary differences is the comparable quality.
JosephParticipantHow does it allegedly “prevent shidduchim”?
JosephParticipantFor how long after shkiah can mincha still be davened?
JosephParticipantCan people generally eyeball the hats on people’s heads and point out which are and which aren’t Borsalinos, even when both are the same style?
Otherwise, is the “peer pressure” spoken of referring to what yenem’s sees on the yeshiva hat rack when spying yenem’s label?
JosephParticipantPeople illogically pay more for a brand name of the same quality as a non-brand name all the time. That they willingly pay more doesn’t tell you that it isn’t the same. Indeed, sometimes a factory sells the same product to different companies that each white label it and sell it at greatly different prices. Even some automobiles from different manufacturers, priced differently, are actually made by one of them and sold by the other under its own brand and pricing. Many of the Kirkland Signature (to take a prominent but far from only example) you buy in Costco are in fact national brands that Costco white labeled and sells for considerably less (with the agreement they won’t reveal which actual brand name manufacturer produced it.)
JosephParticipantWhat is your source that for the purposes of Ona’a a different brand name is sufficient to be considered a different product from a comparable competitive product?
JosephParticipantFor the purposes of Ona’a, what makes you certain that a Borsalino is considered as not being the same product as a competitive brand of comparable quality?
JosephParticipantSo it is your contention that if Borsalino (assuming it is under the jurisdiction of halacha) were to tomorrow raise prices from today’s $275 a hat to $575 for it’s lowest-cost hat, there are no Ona’a issues with such a price raise?
JosephParticipantBeeper?
January 28, 2015 3:12 am at 3:12 am in reply to: Parshas HaMan – Tuesday of Parshas Beshalach #1055769JosephParticipantapy: So if one doesn’t say it everyday, in your venerable opinion it makes no difference if the one day it is said is today versus on August 27th?
JosephParticipantThe idea that a product is being overcharged for is an entirely legitimate complaint that enforceable halacha recognizes under Ona’a.
JosephParticipantSure. His name is Bill de Blasio and his number is 311. If it can help him drum up votes or otherwise if he can shut down the city to avoid the slight chance of a real storm where he’ll be accused of not doing enough, he’d be happy to do so.
JosephParticipantSiDi: What percent of your contacts are on Whatsapp? And the ones on telegram, are they also on whatsapp?
JosephParticipantHow and in what way is your broadminded mindset and stylishness noticed by others? (Obviously they must be if you attribute your lack of dates to those factors.)
JosephParticipantflatbusher: They are on a higher madreiga. But most are not high enough that they care about no gashmius.
JosephParticipantParliament should be abolished and a monarchy established with a ben Dovid as melech, as the Torah provides.
JosephParticipantWhat’s the point of using this telegrap app if the vast majority of your contacts don’t use it but rather use whatsapp instead?
January 27, 2015 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm in reply to: Parshas HaMan – Tuesday of Parshas Beshalach #1055763JosephParticipantapy: Today is no more or less than any other day, per your contention?
JosephParticipantHow did a small number of tzadikim daven Shachris long after the normative zman? (i.e. even after chatzos. Even forming a minyan, in some instances. And mincha/maariv were davened at irregular times by some of these tzadikim as well.)
JosephParticipantSource?
JosephParticipantLenny’s pickles are only second best.
JosephParticipantIs it muttar to be the tenth man for a minyan before mincha gedola for those who hold an earlier zman than you? If so, from when?
JosephParticipantCan you walk into a shul and point out anyone who is wearing a non-Borsalino black fedora shaped and colored as any Borsalino?
January 27, 2015 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm in reply to: what are the job options for a bais yaakov type girl? #1055372JosephParticipantMany of the jobs mentioned here are entirely unsuitable for girls from beis yaakov families, as they put the women in compromising positions that if not entirely a halachic violation put great stumbling blocks in front of the girls working in those environments every day.
JosephParticipantOnly slight exaggeration, but the point remains. Their are many non-Borsalino fedora’s that are virtually indistinguishable to the eye from an actual Borsalino and yet cost a fraction of the price. Even given a lower quality and higher replacement time-frame, the cost savings are significant.
JosephParticipantWith the Mayor predicting a mere few hours ago the worst blizzard in the history of New York, bringing 40 inches or the like, and in reality getting 6 inches… yeah, “not an exact science”.
JosephParticipantBuy a Chinese knockoff and brand it Borsalino. No one will know the difference of what you’re wearing after having paid $25 for the hat. And if it only last four months, $75 per year (i.e. replacing it three times a year) for what looks like a Borsalini is still considerably cheaper than a real McCoy.
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