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Avi, dude, I said that the Jews under Arab rule, just as anywhere in golus for the past 2,000 years, have suffered. Don’t put words in other’s mouths.
If the zionists didn’t demand and fight for a State, there would not have been over 25,000 dead Jews from wars plus another nearly 4,000 from terror plus another 100,000 injured in war and thousands more injured in terror. For hundreds of years prior to Zionism (note: prior to Zionism – not prior to Israel) there were not nearly as many as Jews killed in Palestine.
He lost himself.
+1 for DY.
(If you want a long engagement than you should change from minimize contact to eliminate contact.)
assurnet: So killing 5 million or less Jews is not too bad since the Nazis killed 6 million, correct? Right now it is more likely that C”V a mass Jewish casualty incident will happen to Jews in Israel than to Jews outside of Israel in America or Europe or Australia or Canada or South America.
Voting’s got nothing to do with this discussion. The Brisker Rov didn’t vote nor do his disciples vote today.
Life is more vital than the nebulous quality of life you refer to. Better to be alive with a poorer quality of life than to be dead from war or terror.
Yes, over 3,700 terror victims since Zionism. But you conveniently omit the far more serious figure of over 20,000 war dead (in addition to over 75,000 wounded from that period – all excluding wounded survivors and of terror) just between 1948 and 1997. Plus all the more from the wars since ’97. Nearly 100,000 disabled Jewish men from the wars.
Which other comparable time period in pre-zionist Palestine, or in Arab countries, did you have over 25,000 Jewish dead and over 100,000 Jewush wounded? Answer: None. Zionist Israel is one of the deadliest periods in Jewish history.
HaLeiVi: Where today, other than in Israel, do Jews get murdered and maimed in mass by suicide bombers killing dozens of Jews at a shot in bus stations, restaurants, at a Pesach seder, kidnappings, bombs, shootings, etc., year in year out, decade after decade from the founding of the State through this day?
Was this ness you speak of that many thousands of Jews died in the first war and each subsequent war that crops up every few years in the State? And thousands of more civilian and military casualties in between wars, during those times of “peace”?
Where else in the world are Jews subject to this death cycle today, since you say “Jews fare a lot better these days in Israel” and dismiss the comparative and relative peace of Jews under Arab rule for a thousand years – compared to their Jewish brethren living under Christian rule, and insist on forgetting how we fared relatively well (yes, even considering the anti-semitic instances that cropped up there as they did anywhere Jews lived in golus) under past Arab rule in favor of this supposed utopia of a peaceful Israel? Today a Jew is more at peace in Europe, despite all its anti-semitism, than in Israel where he is more likely to be attacked for being a Jew or die in war or terror. And less Jews were murdered proportionally over a period of time under pre-zionist (note: pre-zionist not pre-Israel) Arab rule in Arab countries (or in Palestine) than die in any comparable period of time in Zionist Israel’s many wars and instances of peacetime terror.
cherrybim: Indeed I know people who will never eat food not prepared in their house – year-round. (Not even in relatives homes.) On Pesach things are much more complex and their are many more minhagim and stringencies in food preparation and acceptability that some people have and others don’t, so it makes even more sense to take this precaution.
Wolf: What if the other guys have the same policy as yourself?
What’s the logic that the same matzah that is hamotzi on Pesach becomes mezonos when it isn’t Pesach?
Why not call Ripley’s and ask them if they have any human remains among their exhibits?
If the secretary answering the phone responds in the negative, how could you be certain you could rely on the accuracy of her response?
We eat out at other people’s homes and they come to us as well.
Your minhag is to mish; so you can mish. I was speaking to those with the minhag not to mish; they, in accordance with their minhag they must uphold, may not mish.
DM: So let’s publicly curse non-Jewish religions because they hate us anyways and doing so obviously won’t cause an increase in their hatred of Jews, correct?
The fact of the matter is that Zionism unarguably caused a far greater and deadlier hatred of Jews by Arabs. Whatever amount of Arab hate of Jews existed prior to Zionism, it multiplied over a hundred-fold post the advent of Zionism. Pre-Zionism we Jews fared far far better for well over a thousand years living in Arab countries than living in Christian countries. Post-Zionism, living in Arab countries or living in Israel is far deadlier than living in Christian countries.
ROB: Hungary was of the last countries the Nazi killing machine took hold of, and anti-Zionist Hungary has the largest proportion of survivors of all the countries you mentioned.
Stating that the Israeli government is anti-religious is a factualism.
Several gedolim opined they`d rather give boys yeshiva on chol hamoed and instead offer a different week as an off week.
JT: Is being spoiled an aveira?
The American oilem are spoiled brats who “require” luxury.
It isn’t any worse to pay $10,000 for a shadchan than to pay $10,000 for a wedding ceremony.
Today, many have taken “kiruv” too far to the extreme. You hear shocking stories of so-called kiruv workers violating Torah commandments all in the name of kiruv.
The term by default has always meant, and still means, someone who practices that lifestyle, not someone who has a taaiva for it but does not engage in it.
In the frun context, whether not or six years ago or any other period ago, people who had the taaiva for it but did not engage in it were not considered to be categorized under that term.
Chidushei Maharz Binga, a talmid muvhik of the Maharil, writes that he saw people pour a glass of wine and call it Kos Shel Eliyahu and that a possible reason for this is since we are expecting him to come and he will need wine for the Arba Kosos.
Rav Moshe Chagiz writes that the reason for Kos Shel Eliyahu was similar to the reason we prepare a special chair for Eliyahu Hanavi at a bris milah. Just as Eliyahu Hanavi witnesses that the bris is performed, here too, on Pesach, Eliyahu Hanavi is to witness that the Korban Pesach is done properly. The Korban Pesach is dependent on milah, since the halacha is that only someone with a bris milah can eat the Korban Pesach.
Definitely do not mish on Pesach.
Any good recipes?
The best plan is to steal the afikomen from the person who stole it from the father.
If you make a Bris at the Seder Eliyahu HaNavi will have double reasons to visit.
Buy them in bulk.
They’re busy serving so they have little time to lean even if the minhag hadn’t been for them not to.
The party is overtly and explicitly for the celebration of their being together.
Jewish Thinker: What kind of comment would constitute “acting like the meraglim”? This is a discussion of the physical safety in EY. If there are issues with the safety in EY, may they not be discussed openly and even comparatively to other locals?
Sam: Their wedding is a furtherance, and thus part of the violation, of their being together.
Ivdu: Did the Rambam or l’havdil Reform say “I don’t know if I am right or wrong”? Or did they do what they thought was appropriate?
Sam: 100 years has got nothing to do with the point.
Dr. P, you it is always nice to see
Going the extra mile for you is the least we can do
Giving the personal touch is not asking for much
Soon I’m going to be a limerick writer, so I better not retire
You need to daven to Hashem to do what’s best for you. Who said Hashem will give you what’s best if you don’t ask him to? Hashem might decide you don’t deserve what’s best and therefore give you something that isn’t the best. You don’t have to daven for something specific. You can simply daven “Hashem, please give me what’s best for me.”
“isn” in the first sentence of my most recent post above should read “is”.
mw13: The Litvish and Chasidish Gedolim don’t merely “work together in areas they have shared interests.” They have a high degree of respect and admiration of each other. And they work on interests in the Torah world almost across the board. i.e. the Satmar Rebbe is not infrequently visiting his friend Hagaon HaRav Kotler in Lakewood and Rav Kotler doing the same in KJ – with both giving shiurim to the other’s talmidim they are visiting. This is by far the rule. The Agudah and Moetzes with its integration of the Litvish and Chasidim is an institutionalized living example.
simcha613: Yes there was opposition to Chasidus and the Rambam etc. long ago, and that therefore opposition in and of itself does not prove someone is wrong. But you also cannot use the fact that the Rambam and Chasidim had opposition to negate charges against MO, because the Conservative and Reform etc. can say the same thing: Maybe in 100 years everyone will agree that Reform is right, like they agree that the Rambam was right? So now my question to you is, how do you know if the opposition to MO is like the opposition to the Rambam, or like opposition to Zionism or Reform? Isn’t it true that although there has been mistaken opposition in the past, there has also been legitimate opposition as well, and therefore, the most you can say is “I dont know if I am right or wrong. The Rambam and Chasidim had opposition but so did Reform. I do not know if I am like the Rambam and Chasidim or like the Reform and Conservative.”
DikDukDuck: Israel is a country where the ruling power isn anti-semitic (anti-religious is anti-Judaism.) America is a country where the ruling power isn’t anti-semitic.
Mother’s are not thankless.
sirvoddmort: You should be calling it Fool’s April Day.
There’s nothing to interpret. It gives the m”m in Mishnas Rav Ahron so that you can read it yourself. Regarding Rav Elchonon, it’s a pretty heavy indictment of the institution when you realize he was sitting in the midst of Nazi ravaged Europe and writes better for the talmidim to stay here in physical danger than to be saved by YU and then face that spiritual danger.
Regarding Rav Ahron Kotler and MO, see:
Rav Shneur didn’t go into YU for the funeral of a close talmid. He had his driver circle outside until they came out. Rav Elchonon Wasserman hy’d declined an invitation to speak in YU when he was in America. See this letter referencing YU from Rav Elchonon during the war where he writes its better to remain in physical danger in Europe than to be brought to the US by YU at where the students will in spiritual danger:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/becoming-chareidi-or-mo/page/2#post-313621
“Not by the Litvaks.”
If you mean that the Litvaks didn’t become Chasidim, you’re correct. But the Litvish gedolim sit on the same moetzes gedolei haTorah as the Chasidish gedolim and on the same communal organizations. And they marry across the spectrum quite frequently. IOW, they each accept the other as being a legitimate Torah community and shittos.
Many people don’t have unlimited calling. And this is competing with other voice apps.
Looks like I’ve been outvoted on the issue.
Ah, yes, what was I thinking? The father’s name isn’t mentioned. Should have been a davar pashut.
Chag Kosher V’Sameach, Reb Feivel.
(I believe the HaKohen comes after the father’s name.)
DY: That’s because Chabad has a bigger influence and presence in yeshivish communities than YU, which is already long marginalized in the yeshiva velt unlike Chabad, not because they are more concerned about their hashkafa compared to MO. (This point is not necessary contradicting what you wrote.)
Because their gameplan is to attack Judaism bit-by-bit. Always giving good “halakhic” reasonings. Same game plan as the early Reform. Always start with halachic reasoning.
The left is always finding one issue or another to attack Judaism on.
Ohr Somayach in Yerushalayim might be your place.
btln: Where did you get that information?
“Show me where you see that “MO” has a systematic belief in what you claim it does”
Sam, your train of thought is to keep insisting that MO has no systematic practices or beliefs, MO has no institutions and MO has no shittos or minhagim. So, really, what *is* MO? Your arguing that there really is no MO. Apparently, MO is whatever any self-defined MO person believes MO to mean to him. So you’re arguing that you can never fault MO because my MO is different than your MO, and if anyone criticizes “MO”, they’re criticizing the MOs who don’t necessarily agree with the MO things being criticized.
If someone wants to criticize Chasidus he might point to specific teachings of the Baal Shem Tov or his disciples; If someone wants to criticize Telzers he might point to the teachings and Minhagim of the Telzer Yeshiva; If someone wants to criticize the Mussar movement he might criticize positions of Rav Yisroel Salanter. But MO? You’re saying there’s no positions to it; and anything any MO group practices is not representative of other MO; so it is impossible to ever criticize it is what you’re effectively arguing.