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I believe bechorim will do the avoda, post-Moshiach in the Third Beis HaMikdash, as they were originally supposed to.
KJC stated that KJ has various forms of public and private transportation they make available to residents that other suburban towns do not have.
KJ is far better geared to provide its residents transportation than the vast majority of any other suburban area.
KJ’s transportation infrastructure is more comparable to NYC’s public transportation than to Monsey’s.
GIYF
Rock him to sleep.
Sing him to sleep.
Massage him to sleep.
Ignore him to sleep.
Put him to sleep on a regular routine/schedule.
If their posek rules it treif, it is no better than them drinking non-kosher gentile wine in private.
What about a member of a community which prohibits cholov stam and he think that ban is patriarchal oppression?
I was there too. And they gave out a leaflet at the asifa describing how to get filters. And they set up TAG at the asifa to help people filter. And Rav Vozner himself after the asifa said it must be used with a filter. The above is a direct quote from Rav Vozner saying to use a filter.
A mora d’asra or community posek surely has the right and obligation to rule on halachas and hanhagos for his kehilla. Many of these communities are very large in their own right. And this particular hanhaga is very far from being only practiced in small groups. It his adhered to by large kehillas in America, Europe and especially in Eretz Yisroel. And surely relying on the Posek HaDor Hagaon Harav Vozner is a strong basis.
And it has already been explained how it certainly can be reasonably extrapolated from the S”A on Kol Kevuda (which is a tznius issue) as well as the woman wagon driver issue.
The haters who aren’t Jewish say the Jews are dishonest blood suckers taking their money. The Jewish haters who aren’t Orthodox say it is the Orthodox who are dishonest. While the haters who are Orthodox say it is the Ultra-Orthodox and Hasidim who are dishonest.
Your rudeness doesn’t reduce one iota my large Ahavas Yisroel for you and any fellow Yid. This, too, is very sincere. Even when you’re mistaken (yet sincere) my respect for you isn’t reduced. Btw, you initially admitted that you “don’t know” if I was sincere.
It most certainly was. In context, that comment was a response to your comment above it.
I was being 100% very sincere.
Nine. One for each life.
It would be appropriate to sweetly educate them of their error and lovingly teach them the appropriate way to uphold the sanctity of Shabbos.
We need to protest the controlling communities that prohibit cholov stam and abusively deny their members the joys of Ben & Jerrys, M&Ms and the low cost of OU-D milk that other frum halachic-abiding communities permit.
What if you were drinking cholov stam all your life when your Rov told you that you should not do so?
There are plenty of Chassiduses that don’t let you leave, too.
They don’t have soldiers at the gates of New Square or Williamsburg refusing exit to any party. Anyone can leave. Kvetching that it is socially difficult to leave is not a matter of them being unable. (And it is good that it is socially much easier to remain with the status quo.)
When did you become a nice guy? 🙂
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You’re close…
Why are you feeling pressure to go to weddings you were invited as a formality but aren’t close to? I skip weddings a notable percent of weddings I’ve been invited to.
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Maybe a side business. How much profit can be made when buying is pretty cheap?
There have been numerous prison escapees that spent decades on the lam. Sometimes living openly under an assumed identity.
Sam2: ” I’m not saying it’s relevant in this case, but “it’s none of your business” isn’t an option. If people believe this is an actually untenable Shittah, they have a right to call out.”
You don’t seem to apply this logic (or like it) when others apply it to Modern Orthodox “shittas”. (Official ones.)
The proposed fiscal monitor is given the legal authority to overrule the duly democratically elected board. And the monitor will take away from private school children elective bus service and private placement of special ed children. The board is authorized under the law to elect to provide those optional services. But the monitor can (and will) take them away.
This morning the news is reporting that the women prison employee who was suspected has admitted she gave them the power tools and had planned to be their getaway driver, but got cold feet at the last minute.
It’s a complete Chillul Hashem for them to be participating on Shabbos. And Zilzul Shabbos and Chillul Shabbos. To go there on Shabbos even if they hadn’t participated, let alone participate on Shabbos.
Is it possible for an action to be potentially defensible on halachic grounds, yet still immoral?
What does immoral or moral mean?
yichusdik: It is not against the law (dina d’malchusa) in England for women to choose not to drive or for a religious community to institute a rule for its religious members not to drive. Even the education minister who didn’t like it didn’t say otherwise. (She was upset that the schools were enforcing it; but even that she has no law to stand on other than vague “human rights” laws that she was speculating about.)
Furthermore, if the law was made that shechita was illegal, I’d expect you to be the first railing against the “chillul Hashem” shochtim are making by not stunning the animals first thus violating dina d’maclhusa. Same if France outlaws wearing a yarmulka in public. You’d be the first denouncing the “c”H” those wearing a yarmulka are making.
Next on the chopping block will the laws against bris mila once the “intact” movement gains legal traction, as they have in Europe and almost did in San Francisco. They just finished protesting in Florida against a father who dared to want to have his own son circumcised.
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It seems to me that you live in a big city.
If you lived in a suburban area, where you have to drive to get groceries, do carpool, etc. it would be difficult.
The kehillas that have this restriction tend to live in cities or self-sufficient towns that people are within walking distance to many necessities and have school busing and modes of public transportation.
Also, Rav Vozner writes in his psak that the Gemora’s restriction against women driving a wagon carries over to driving.
DM: That would be a difficult hanhaga to impose and people might not adhere to it. The driving rule has been in force for well over half a century and very well adhered to, for the most part. The S”A says they shouldn’t leave too much, not that they can’t ever leave. By placing a restriction on driving it accomplishes a limitation. The other items you wonder why aren’t restricted, would almost make it into a ban on necessary and permissible travel.
Sam: You sound like you’re alluding to the Gemora in Yavamos 76, when answering R. Yochanan the Gemora says women do not roam. Or perhaps you were thinking of the Gra (4): Hashem did not create Chavah from Adam’s foot, lest she roam too much (Bereishis Rabah 18:2). “Ishtecha k’Gefen Poriyah” is only when she is modest “b’Yarkesei Veisecha” (Medrash Tehilim 128:3).
Oomis described it well. And she demonstrated that what the world at large considers to be moral and how they define morality, is irrelevant to Jews and the Torah world.
gavra: There’s a tradeoff that needs to be evaluated. Ideally, indeed, women should not be working outside of the home. (Stay-at-home-moms is in fact more common amongst chasidim.) But oftentimes there’s unfortunately no choice but to have a second income or for the wife to bring home the groceries.
Sometimes a b’dieved is a necessity.
One can like very much that it says this in the Shulchan Aruch. But it has nothing to do with women driving.
That is true. And, indeed, those that posit as such permit women to drive. Those that posit the aforementioned Shulchan Aruch is relevant to women driving, posit that it is impermissible for them to drive. Both halachic positions exists among various poskim.
Rav Vozner paskens that women should not drive:
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1414&st=&pgnum=9&hilite=
The real reason for the ban against chassidish women driving?
Forget what some Nshei Whatever said. They probably said whatever they said for public consumption amongst the masses of gentiles and secular who don’t understand one iota of Torah, tznius and yiddishkeit. The main (but perhaps not only) reason is Shulchan Aruch. Specifically Shulchan Aruch EH 73:1. Shulchan Aruch says a woman’s place is at home and that a wife should not go outside too much. If a woman is a licensed driver and has a car at her immediate disposal to fly off to wherever she wants, there is no question that she will be spending much more time outside of the home than she would be spending outside of the home if she is not a licensed driver.
If you don’t like Shulchan Aruch or think it is no longer relevant or applicable in the 21st century, then I can’t help you.
That’s because being ineligible to vote is not a license to not pay taxes.
I’m always ready to join a simcha.
Which rebbe shlita?
Would it be good for my older children to know about this gesture since they know about the “behavior”?
Why would you doubt that they should know about this gesture?
Your friend is a tougher call, whether you should tell him, since you indicate his reaction may include speaking l”h. If you were confident he wouldn’t, then why shouldn’t you tell him too?
True. Although if I remember correctly he may have gone on the legal attack against the schools and enrolled his boys in the girls school only after the boys school kicked them out.
In that case the father did something violent directly to his son’s teacher (rebbe) in front of the other classmates. That fact may make a difference. It isn’t a case where the father robbed the shul’s pushka and the school expelled the son. It says the son is welcome back once the father apologizes.
Regarding that Austrian guy, he isn’t NK but he’s stam a meshugana. And he didn’t hurt the community. He used his children as pawns. Trying to enroll his boys in a girls beis yaakov and suing the yeshivas for not teaching Austrian studies.
gavra, so far no one else here has specifically defined a morality that differs from halacha and what that has to do with the Torah, if anything. I’d like to read your comment where you’ll be the first to define it otherwise as such.
Thus far the consensus agrees with how I defined it.
I’m always suspicious that they’re going to make it no matter what. That the end-time will come and they’ve made sure, one way or another, that the numbers show they made it. That the promotion of the possibility otherwise is merely for public consumption to increase the net proceeds from the public.