Joseph

sushibagel: You’re going to need a national security background check conducted by the Department of Homeland Security via the FBI.

akuperman: This thread’s for you. (Re-dedication.)

lc:

1. Statistically, there are likely to be more students living between over a mile up to two and a half miles from the yeshiva as there are students living a mile or less from the school. People do not choose a Yeshiva because it is the closest Yeshiva to their home.

2. Shuls are much closer to people’s homes, and there are far more of them, than yeshivos.

3. Some children speak Yiddish as their primary language. Some even as their only language at a young age.

zsdad: There are tons of frum girls, including many who speak yiddish, in NY & NJ who are fully qualified and certified special ed teachers. So many, in fact, that some of them can’t find jobs.

Syag: In many States, including NY, the child has the right to be taught in the language he is fluent in. Even if it is a language other than English and Spanish.

RY23, Mod29 is correct in that you made a bad assumption here. I am not a woman. (Please give the flowers to golfer.) So when golfer called me dense on the last post of the previous page she was not calling a woman dense. I, on the other hand, subsequently only asked if she is.

DaMoshe: In Ramapo, Monroe and Lakewood, I know of no case where the infrastructure became insufficient due to the quick growth. The water kept running, the electric kept flowing and the sewers didn’t overflow. Certainly not to any greater extent than many other non-Jewish towns. So while we keep hearing the mantra “the infrastructure won’t be able to keep up” by opponents using that claim for well over 25 years already, the reality is that the infrastructure has kept up – despite the great amount of growth.

The school funding issue you describe is a formula problem. The State formula doesn’t account for private school students to determine funding; it only accounts for public school students to determine funding. The law mandates certain services for all children, public or private. So the problem that needs to be fixed by the legislature is fixing the formula to account for the fact that there are children in private schools.

Regarding your Ramapo example, both in ’08 and ’12, by your own cited figures, they were in both years above State average spending! (Of course the spending growth didn’t keep up; that’s because of the aforementioned formula problem. And a 7.5% increase in four years is not small potatoes in any event.)

gaw: Your point is well taken but you have to remember increasing property/school taxes is a public referendum decided upon by the voters. The realpolitik reality is that voters who are denied funding for their children’s school education are unlikely to vote for a school tax increase. The voters take the position that the government should fund their children’s secular education in private schools (or charter schools). They’re not asking for the religious studies to be funded; but they do want the secular studies in private school to be tax funded. And it isn’t. In some States (i.e. Florida and some other Republican States) they do fund private school education (for the secular studies portion.) So it certainly is legal to do so, yet many States refuse to do it. So if it is legal to fund their schools and the government doesn’t, naturally they will vote down school tax initiatives.

If the thief was sold as an eved ivri half a year before shmitta, and shmitta freed him while his victim didn’t receive full repayment of his loss from the theft by the thief’s sale as an eved ivri, the thief is still mechuyiv to repay the remaining balance (i.e. theft value minus sale price as an eved ivri) even though beis din cannot enforce that?

Yet shmitta does end one’s status as an eved ivri resulting from theft.

gaw: Where should the Jews move to? In Monroe and Bloomingburg they want to stop the Jews from expanding because it is “rural”. In Ramapo and Lakewood those opposed to the Jews expanding say it is “suburban”. Boro Park is urban and like the rest of NYC there’s physically nowhere to build. So the rural don’t want building because they want to stay rural; the suburbans don’t want building because don’t want to become urban; and the urban is saturated.

Or is it that they don’t want the Jews? Or at least those Jews’ Jews who dress and act funny and refuse to integrate into the melting pot.