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the boards excsue is they want the state to bail them out, I think they are the only district in the state asking for this for the reasons they specify. You cant expect the general population of the state to bail you out without conditions if at all
The State “bails out” all districts when it gives all districts funding based on how many students are in public school. The ER district is unique from other districts in that a majority of students go to private not public schools and are therefore not getting counted towards the number of students the State gives educational aid to.
If the State doesn’t give the district additional aid despite the rising number of children being born and going to school in ER, then what will happen (and is already happening) is the board will be forced to cut back public school education spending to the bare bones basics, eliminating things like art and other courses and extracurricular activities that New York State law does not make mandatory.
So the choice for the State is either 1) give more funding to the district considering ALL the children going to school, not just counting public students or 2) face a bare bones public school that will legally be defunded of all activities that are not legally mandated.
Baloney. You want to support infanticide and are looking for lame excuses to justify the unjustifiable. And a poor excuse at that.
Btw, I mentioned assault. It can clearly be written broad enough to cover all basis.
ubiquitin: So what the Catholic Church took that position. Most American Catholics don’t support having no exceptions nor do most Americans. The vast vast majority of Americans support exceptions. If and when a law is enacted outlawing abortions it will surely have exceptions.
You can support a law outlawing abortion that has exception for the mother’s life and health, when in danger, and when assaulted. The law can be broadly written to cover virtually any halachic exceptions. There’s no excuse to support a regime permitting abortion-on-demand.
Charlie: If it is prohibited to non-Jews, you should be opposing its use by non-Jews. Do you oppose them having abortions?
No one is promoting permitting theft among non-Jews. Both theft and abortion, both being prohibited, should be opposed.
Are you asking about a “chup”?
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Your “He got me scared, though…” was a bit ambiguous. It wasn’t entirely clear whether he got you scared that he said “I’m saying yes” to your face rather than the shadchan (and you thought that inappropriate) or if he got you scared that he was finished with you.
Anyways, why did you give him a long look? You really entertained the idea he might have been dumping you right to your face?
Well, your not marrying him isn’t the punch line. Did you two go on another date?
The question is if one takes the halachic position that there is no issur to starve oneself, does he have to take the halachic position that there is no issur to starve someone else (who didn’t ask to be starved)?
If not, what is the halachic n”m?
The Tzitz Eliezer famously held otherwise.
Can we stop quoting these Shittos please? They are wholly and entirely rejected by every major Posek in the last century, most notably (and strongly) R’ Moshe Feinstein.
A new poll today shows Bernie Sanders has gotten ahead of H. Clinton among likely voters in the New Hampshire Democratic primary.
Perhaps it’ll be Trump vs. Sanders!
sdd: I’m asking you. Do you see no halachic distinguishing between the two scenarios I described?
The same reason it is fun to go boating.
It only could disturb you because you’ve been influenced by the zeitgeist rained on society by the media and toeiva lobby and their indoctrination attempting to remove the abnormality of this malady.
sdd/yekke: My question was, unrelated to other points here, how/why to you halachicly distinguish between the following two types of cases:
1) Someone who commits suicide by refusing to eat
or
2) Someone who locks someone in a room until he starves (or someone who refuses to give requested food to an immobile person)
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MA: Only U.S. sanctions will remain. That is what he is referring to. International sanctions by the United Nations will be dropped even if Congress rejects the deal. So the rest of the world will begin trading with Iran regardless.
simcha: Don’t cover up your pro-murder stance with sophistry. Most pro-life supporters do support exceptions, i.e. for the mother’s life. In fact, a few days ago when Walker said he doesn’t support any exceptions he took a lot of heat since almost everyone else does. You can support the abolition of abortion with exceptions, as most Americans and most Republicans, politicians and laymen support.
sdd: Where/how are you making a halachic distinction between 1) a third person who doesn’t give food to an immobile person (who wants to eat) or locking someone involuntarily into a foodless room versus 2) someone refusing to eat?
sdd: What if someone prevents someone (who wants to eat) from eating – either by denying food to an immobile person or by actually locking someone in a room with no food; He is not guilty of killing him?
I specified the law needs to be amended to accomplish my proposal.
I didn’t address non-taxpayer’s (i.e. poor) children. They should be entitled to a funded education with the same choice as all.
What happens if the U.S.A. drops out of the iran deal-as we all hope will happen with Hashems help? the other 5 countries will still be supporting it.
Indeed. At this point the sanctions are gone even if Congress rejects the deal. A Congressional rejection will mean there’s no deal with the U.S. AND there’s no more international sanctions on Iran. The United Nations Security Council already voted to end international sanctions. Russia (and China) will veto any attempts to reimpose international sanctions. The U.S. rejecting the deal will not stop international sanctions from ending and soon Iran will be trading with Europe, Asia and Russia the goods that were previously sanctioned, irregardless of what Congress or the U.S. does.
On principle.
And I’m exactly saying that the law should be codified that the government and the board of ed cannot interfere with private school decisions or budgets, even though its funded by taxpayers.
1. All taxpayers are entitled to tax funded schooling.
2. All taxpayers are entitled to choose any school of their choice, public or private.
3. Ideally, the government should get out of the schooling business altogether. (They’ve failed.)
4. The government cannot interfere with parents schooling choices or methodologies.
Government money belongs to taxpayers, not to “the government”. Citizen taxpayers should have the right to choose how their educational dollars are spent on their children.
Uncle Sam doesn’t tell you how to spend your IRS refund check or your Child Tax Credit. Even welfare (cash) recipients can legally spend their welfare cash on whatever they want. What I am proposing easily fits within the Constitution.
yekke2: When else do we kill someone due to ??????? ???????, in situations where ???? ????? is inapplicable?
Where is Mom’s Kosher Knishes? And who owns that trademark?
Government money is the taxpayer’s money. The taxpayer gave the government that money, and the taxpayer ought to have the right to choose how to educate their children, with the tax dollars they put into the system, without socialized government bureaucrats dictating to them how to educate their children. Parents are far better equipped to choose their children’s education that nameless government bureaucrats in State capitols. Especially considering that government public schools have failed America’s children for the past half century.
As far as Ireland, the US government cannot dictate to a private school what religion they may or may not teach. No one is asking to fund religious education. But secular education should be funded in any private schools.
According to the shittos that somebody who commits suicide transgresses ?? ????
What do you mean “according to the shittos”? Which shittos do not consider suicide to be murder?
lc: Taxpayers have a right to sit on a public board of ed that pays for educational services for taxpayers children. The public board of ed controls spending for services for both public and private schools. The taxpayers right to sit on the board is because it is a public government body. If the board of ed only determines public school funding and stops determining private school services with the latter determined by another entity, and private schools were government funded, then it would be more logical to limit participation on the board of ed to public school parents.
Taxpayers do not have a right, nor should they have a right, to determine how private schools spend money to educate children, even if partially tax funded. The school is a private entity not a government body. Only the parents and private school should determine their educational curriculum, and how they choose to spend their educational dollars, as government bureaucrats shouldn’t be replacing parents in determining how to educate the children.
And tax dollars should pay for children’s education regardless of where they go to school, public or private, because parents pay school education taxes and parents should decide where to send their children without government interference into how they choose to educate their children.
In fact, there is good reason to disband public schools and privatize them, considering the government’s proven failure in educating children in public schools. The government does not belong in the school business.
By enacting a law funding private schools to run their educational system how they choose, without socialized government bureaucrats determining what is best from an educational standpoint. We’ve seen how government-run education has failed public school students for over half a century.
The logic is simple, taxpayers should choose how to educate their children without government interference. And taxpayers should choose where to educate their children, and receive the same educational funding that they paid taxes for regardless of where they send their children to school.
Yeah, he’s a jerk and megalomaniac; no doubt. And he has no chance of winning and most people wouldn’t want him near the White House. But its good he’s shaking up the race instead of letting the establishment simply roll over everyone and install their establishment candidate.
writer, you missed the point. It doesn’t necessarily have to be equal. A greater quantity of Torah is always better than a lesser quantity of Torah.
The frum community are part of those who pay (i.e. taxpayers) the fiddler. Church/State is not a barrier to funding private schools; other States do it and have won Church/State lawsuits upholding the government’s ability to fund such institutions.
My education is fully through the normative chrareidi education system; anything else is self-taught.
that is one of Ezra Friedlander’s big, BIG inconsistencies. On the one hand, he doesn’t want an audit or review in any way of the yeshivas out of fear that they will be dictated to by the government- on the other hand, he wants some kind of free, no-strings-attached handout gift-wrapped and handed over from that same government. That’s simply not how life works and, to be honest, it’s better that way.
There is no need for government socialized education. Let government get out of the education business and allow the private sector to operate schools. Government has proven itself a failure in education. Public school students are far behind not only private school students but far behind international educational benchmarks.
And we have every right to expect government funding of our children so long as we are subjected to taxation that finances schooling.
1) All things equal, the more quantity given to Torah studies, the greater the possible quality of Torah studies.
2) Even putting aside the debate on quality, a higher quantity of Limud Torah is in its own right a major plus. There is no minimum threshold for the amount of Torah you are obligated to know. The rule is: more is better; less is worse. And the difference between just a little more and a little less is staggering. As the Vilna Gaon points out, one word of Torah knowledge gives you more holiness than an entire lifetime’s worth of doing other Mitzvos.
And here we thought that a secular education is expensive! Its much more expensive than you think – you can acquire it only at the expense of your time and effort that you could have been putting toward becoming educated in Olam Habah.
Actually he did speak much more than anyone else.
You can stay till you’re seven.
Ask yourself: Who are you being mesiras nefesh for?
Your wife has a morah?
I wouldn’t expect a morah (or a women’s lecturer) to give a shiur explaining multiple shittos.
It’s a famous, well known, story.
A big (and obvious) rule of thumb is that the more time allocated to secular studies, the more time detracted from Torah studies – and thus the lower the quantity of Torah material possible.
Quantity matters.