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JosephParticipant
Avi: Israel is a charity recipient of the United States. And I’m talking money that America gave Israel and/or lent Israel and then forgave the debt. Not to mention the arms America sent Israel during its wartimes and between its endless wars and money America gave (and forgave any debt) to the Israeli army. And not to mention the U.S.’ defense of Israel in the UNSC for many decades by vetoing anti-Israel resolutions countless times.
JosephParticipantStamp or coin collecting.
November 18, 2015 2:08 am at 2:08 am in reply to: Is the shechinah shoreh in the coffee room? #1113740JosephParticipantHow about learning Torah via postal mail or email.
November 18, 2015 2:01 am at 2:01 am in reply to: Is it mutar to listen to a shiur from your Rabbi on shabbos? #1113214JosephParticipantHow about watching a video of your rebbi? Or of 613 Torah Avenue.
November 17, 2015 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113158JosephParticipantFather/Father, Mother/Mother means the two Oberlander fathers walk the Choson to the chupa and the two mothers walk the Kallah to the chupa.
Just like by the Chasidim.
JosephParticipantRav Aharon Feldman spoke to Cross Currents and the interview is on their site today. Rav Aharon said the RCA’s statement “is totally missing the point. The problem of Open Orthodoxy does not come down to whether women should or should not be Rabbanim; it is the fact that they deny the most basic fundamentals of belief in Torah.” And that the RCA should make stronger statements than they have until now.
JosephParticipantCTLAWYER: Ain’t you remember the good ‘ole days of when horse and buggies used to ride down Ocean Parkway – and that magical day when Henry Ford introduced his Model T? 🙂
takahmamash: Take the subway for 10 blocks? Besides, the guy is trying to go East whereas the subway there goes North/South. (CTLawyer can probably tell you about when they were planning to build the subway why they chose that direction.)
JosephParticipantBarry: B’derech hateva America doesn’t need Israel for its survival. OTOH if America had opposed Israel from inception through today, voted against Israel in the UNSC over the decades, refused to give Israel a dollar and didn’t supply it militarily with armor and money during its wartimes and between its endless wars, b’derech hateva the State would likely not have survived. So you say it would survive on miracles? Perhaps, but that doesn’t exempt it from hakaras hatov to its great benefactor or give it right to stab it behind its back because “everybody spies on everybody”.
JosephParticipantNot to mention the fact that all the “aid” is actually loan guarantees that lower interest rates (although Israel has never defaulted).
Between 1974 and 1989, $16.4 billion in U.S. military loans were converted to grants (and this was the understanding from the beginning.) Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, which has undoubtedly helped Israel’s often-touted claim that they have never defaulted on a U.S. government loan. U.S. policy since 1984 has been that economic assistance to Israel must equal or exceed Israel’s annual debt repayment to the United States. Unlike other countries, which receive aid in quarterly installments, aid to Israel since 1982 has been given in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year. Israel even lends some of this money back through U.S. treasury bills and collects the additional interest. In addition, there is the more than $1.5 billion in private U.S. funds that go to Israel annually in the form of $1 billion in private tax-deductible donations and $500 million in Israeli bonds. The ability of Americans to make what amounts to tax-deductible contributions to a foreign government, made possible through a number of Jewish charities, does not exist with any other country. Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world’s population. Between 1949 and 2014 the U.S. has given Israel over $120 billion in aid, about 2/3 being military aid and the rest being economic aid.
As for Kissinger, he delayed the aid deliberately in order to extract concessions.
When you accept charity, you don’t get to set the terms.
Israel saves the U.S. far more in research and development than it was given.
No. The amount given, as noted above, is far in excess of any return.
Then there is all the scientific and other inventions and so many more benefits, too numerous to mention in a forum like this.
Of course Israel benefits from far more U.S. scientific and other inventions, such as you the internet, the telephone, medical and technological, that most of what it invents is on top of US invented intellect.
Copying and pasting without giving credit is plagiarism. Even the Islamic website that used it cited a source
JosephParticipantzsdad, would you like to put up a national referendum whether Americans want to send US tax money to Israel?
JosephParticipantIs using American citizens employed in American national security to spy against America on American soil or the Israeli prime minister coming to America to speak against the president a form of hakaras hatov?
JosephParticipantCause they’re nuts.
JosephParticipantSo why did Hashem offer that option?
JosephParticipantHow?
November 16, 2015 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113150JosephParticipantjust a post to avoid explaining your previous post.
Sorry, I didn’t see your question. (It may have been approved after subsequent posts.)
Is Vein and Vienna not the same place? Which part of Brooklyn are you referring to?
The Vienner (?????) Kehilla, Kehal Adas Yereim Vien (??? ??? ????? ?????) originated in Vienna, Austria. Hence their name “Vien”. They are now headquartered in Boro Park, Brooklyn.
Where is Chasan Sofer/Mattersdorf? Country? city?
Yeshiva Ch’san Sofer, led by the Rosh Yeshiva the Mattersdorfer Rov, Rav Simcha Bunim Ehrenfeld shlita, who is on the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah of the Agudas Yisroel of America, is also in Boro Park, Brooklyn. His father, Rav Shmuel Ehrenfeld zt’l, the previous Mattersdorfer Rov and Rosh Yeshiva, founded Kiryas Mattersdorf in Yerushalayim.
November 16, 2015 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113148JosephParticipantBased on what is your info?
Based on being around the block.
JosephParticipantMy bracha for Torah613 is that she be given the honor of being the cleaning lady in the Ezras Noshim of the Beis HaMikdash.
JosephParticipantThen drive down Avenue I.
JosephParticipantPru U’rvu.
November 16, 2015 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113146JosephParticipantI think it could fairly be said that most Yekkes merged into the Litvish world and minhagim and most Oberlanders merged into the Chasidic world and minhagim.
JosephParticipantWho said the floors were ever dirty or needed to be swept?
November 16, 2015 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113138JosephParticipantVien is from Vienna, Austria now located in Brooklyn, New York.
Chasan Sofer/Mattersdorf are einekelech of the Chasam and Chasan Sofer.
All are true blue Oberlanders.
November 16, 2015 2:24 pm at 2:24 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113134JosephParticipantVien and Chasan Sofer (Mattersdorf).
November 16, 2015 3:50 am at 3:50 am in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113126JosephParticipantThe better question is why don’t Oberlander women themselves shave, per the Oberlander halachic ruling of the Chasam Sofer.
Or do they?
JosephParticipantAside from several of his children becoming Rebbe, weren’t several of his brothers also Rebbe during the last Rebbes lifetime, and now his nephews are Rebbes too?
JosephParticipantUber, nisht aval. 🙂
JosephParticipantTze shteit in der seforim hakedoshim azoi. 🙂
November 16, 2015 12:45 am at 12:45 am in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113121JosephParticipantPerhaps the OP added that to Wikipedia. Or got this idea about Yekkes and Oberlanders from reading Wikipedia. Or from the same source as that website got it. But I’ve never heard that. And it is common knowledge that not only are the Oberlanders currently very closely aligned with Chasidim (as can easily be eyewitnessed by walking through almost any Oberlander neighborhood) on the religious spectrum, but that for centuries many customs of Chasidim and Oberlanders have had great similarities.
The Rema was accepted by far more than just the Yekkes right from the get-go. And not all of frum German Jewry were Yekkes. There were other hashkafos and customs among non-Yekke German Jewry.
(Shoutout to squeak.)
November 15, 2015 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113116JosephParticipantNachumberg, which kehila are you affiliated with? In Vien I heard some of the shuls changed from Nusach Ashkenaz to Nusach Sefard. Which minhagim are you referring to?
JosephParticipantGo down Ave. I.
November 15, 2015 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113112JosephParticipantI didn’t mention anything about Ehrlau. I mentioned Mattersdorf. Define what is “Minhag Oberland” and who follows this “Minhag Oberland” that you refer to. Because most actual Oberlander Yidden today don’t.
And the Oberlander havara is very close to the Chasidishe havara. Certainly much closer to the Chasidishe havara than to the Litvishe or the Yekkishe havara.
What gave you this idea that Minhag Oberland is similar to Minhag Yekke? There is a reason that the Oberlanders became very close to the Chasidim and adopted very many of their minhagim.
November 15, 2015 3:14 pm at 3:14 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113110JosephParticipantYour knowledge is mistaken. By way of some examples, the Chasidim are big followers of the Chasam Sofer, who is Oberlander. Today many Oberlanders wear Shtriemals. Also take a look at Vien, which is one of the largest Oberlander Kehilos. Or Mattersdorf. And the havara of Oberlanders is the same as that of most Chasidim.
November 15, 2015 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113108JosephParticipantOberlandrers minhagim are closer to Chasidim than to Yekkes.
November 15, 2015 1:31 pm at 1:31 pm in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1112931JosephParticipantDY, the American government is run by mostly all Ovdei Avoda Zora practitioners of Trinity worship, and many European countries are officially and formally Christian. So why wouldn’t all your same questions to HaKatan about utilizing Israeli government services and participating in their system apply to Jews doing the same in Christian countries?
November 13, 2015 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1112911JosephParticipantyytz, your stats are including the inner city minority violence and drug death rate that has little effect on white America let alone Jewish America. A Jew has a greater chance of being a murder victim in Israel than he has virtually anywhere else in the world significant number of Jews reside.
JosephParticipantI’m telling you the metzius, not the ideal.
November 13, 2015 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1112899JosephParticipantThe Brisker and Satmat shitta isn’t extreme. In fact, the Brisker and Satmar shitta only differ from the Agudah Rabbonim’s shitta on a very small number of issues regarding Zionism. Namely whether to vote and accept government funding. All of the aforementioned shittas, including Agudah, are opposed to Zionism even if they participate in the government.
JosephParticipantthen he was pulled over for going 35
Was the ticket written out for 35 in a 25 zone?
JosephParticipantsdd, but if virtually everyone is driving above 25, it becomes untenable to be the only one at 25.
JosephParticipantI almost never see anyone driving 25 MPH or below on OP, any time of the day (unless there is heavy traffic preventing it from moving faster.)
JosephParticipantIs trespassing halachicly categorized as gezel?
JosephParticipantWhat is the halachic difference between geneivas akum and geneiva?
November 12, 2015 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1112881JosephParticipantWould those demanding all Jews move to Israel have made the same demand during the times the Christian Crusaders controlled it?
JosephParticipantThe Mincha announcement might work once or twice, but after a time or two security will be suspicious about this boy Mincha getting lost every week or so with a different parent always looking for him.
November 12, 2015 4:58 am at 4:58 am in reply to: Wedding Singer/Band/DJ recommendations needed asap! Thanks! #1111921JosephParticipantIt might help people help you to say how yeshivish you are or aren’t.
Yeshivish folks don’t hire a DJ for a chasuna.
JosephParticipantwe’ve got an awful lot of ????? running around!
Gehenom is big enough for them all!
[Attn ZD: I know you took that seriously. Thus note I was joking.]
November 12, 2015 2:26 am at 2:26 am in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1112871JosephParticipantThe Russian gentiles who moved to Israel, many of whom have a fake State conversion and many who don’t, frequently intermarry R”L with Israeli Jews.
There are plenty of people who go off the OTD, rachmana litzan, even with good Jewish educations, and I’ve never heard any evidence that they’re less likely to marry non-Jews than other secular Jews.
OTDs are far less likely to marry a gentile than secular or Reform/Conservative Jew. The ones intermarrying are far more likely to have left Torah Judaism multiple generations before the person with whom intermarriage r’l occurs.
JosephParticipantThere’s a halachic difference between parking in someone’s driveway (which is his property) and parking in front of [blocking] his driveway (that is public property that he has some rights of way to.)
JosephParticipantBy the way, Sephardim didn’t traditionally wear a yarmulka. Should they get rid of that too?
JosephParticipantJews always have worn a head covering (more than a yarmulka only.)
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