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There are very few circumstances where halacha, as recorded in the S”A, permit kefia. All of the following have to have occurred for coercion to be halachicly permissible: 1) There had to have been a beis din trial with both spouses and the dayanim all present at the same time in beis din and 2) both spouses were given the opportunity to present their case in beis din and 3) the dayanim after hearing both sides determined that based on the circumstances halachic cause exists that obligates him to issue a divorce even if he wishes not to and 4) he refuses to issue the Get and 5) the dayanim further deliberate and rule that halacha permits kefia under the circumstances.
Even when he’s obligated under halacha to give a Get, halacha still says he cannot be physically coerced under most circumstances. (He’s a rasha if he doesn’t and beis din may be permitted to authorize lesser forms of pressure such as harchokos Rabbeinu Tam.) And halacha doesn’t even obligate a Get in the first place in most typical cases unless there is an unusual factor that Chazal specifically and explicitly say mandates a Get. Some of the few such scenarios that Chazal authorized it are a) an illegal marriage (i.e. Kohen and gerusha) b) he has a physical deformity or c) he engaged in physical violence against her, and was warned by beis din to stop but he continued after having been warned. (Shulchan Aruch says if he denies it then beis din needs witnesses testifying to it.) Shulchan Aruch lists various types of cases where a spouses request for a divorce is denied and the couple is told by beis din to go back to living together as husband and wife.
akuperma: Nowhere does the kesuba obligate the issuance of a Get. Your definition of halacha is inaccurate. And it is quite rare for someone to petition for a secular divorce whilst declining to issue a Jewish one. Typically the secular divorce is obtained without his requesting it. By default Jewish law does not obligate one to divorce if the other party seeks one without halachicly recognized “cause”. There is an entire section in Shulchan Aruch dedicated to defining invalid Gets that were procured under coercion.
Forget breaking the non-Jewish laws these thugs engage in, they are breaking Jewish laws and producing invalid Gets. The Halacha in Shulchan Aruch is very clear in stating that a Get produced via coercion is a Get Me’usa.
You’d have to be a centenarian if he’s half your age. 😉
Population growth is natural and accommodations for additional housing is absolutely necessary. There certainly is nowhere to build family housing in NYC.
Peace Corps in Africa treating Ebola patients.
CTL: Even if the owner decided after the offer that he doesn’t want to sell and will continue residing there?
Queen, you’re on a roll making waaay too many assumptions just in this thread alone. Health is more likely double your age, not half your age. And he too has not received the education you attribute to him.
DY, you’re welcome.
We need to analyze and weigh the tradeoff.
Ah, but with the cash option I can earn a better return than what the annuity pays. So we need to weigh the tradeoff.
But with the annuity the interest grows tax-free.
And how many Jews in Baltimore were killed or maimed during the minority riots in the inner city?
None.
Mazal Tov technical21 upon her becoming a Kallah!
Queen: You crossed a line there. DY was not taught to hate anyone, let alone it being his Torah. Don’t make assumptions about people, especially if you don’t know who you’re talking about. Okay?
Guys, is it better to take the annuity or the cash option for the jackpot?
And explain why, please.
Bais Medrash Elyon was an anchor of the Orthodox Jewish presence.
The State is another churban in that long list of churbans you listed that we endured in golus.
“the present mini-intifada but let’s put it into perspective.”
Perspective? The State of Israel has been in an ongoing, unending, state of war and terror since its founding in ’48.
That’s 67 years and counting.
sheker doesn’t last that long.
theprof1: So Christianity or Islam is true? How about Reform and Conservatives? They’ve lasted longer.
rob: There is no guarantee there will be peace in Israel anytime in the future, prior to Moshiach. Israel could find its sovereignty at risk of fall. Or c’v in the line of a catastrophic WMD.
I liked Trump’s invocation of William F. Buckley Jr. as a fellow New Yorker, although Trump obviously is the furthest thing from Buckley.
ZD: The individual homeowners and property owners are very happy to sell to the Jews and take their Jewish money when it is the highest offer. It is the municipality government that doesn’t like the fact that the Jews are successfully buying and moving in thus enacting their anti-Jewish governmental regulations.
Writer: I believe the Chasidim moved to Monsey before there were significant numbers of Orthodox non-Chasidim.
I did win. Ask me again in a year.
If it was Itzik/600KiloBear there, he’d have shouted “Shaygets Arois!”
The point is that to argue that living in Israel is physically safer than elsewhere Jews live, is a factually incorrect argument. Compared to most places that have significant numbers of Jews (US, Canada, UK, Australia), Israel statistically has more risks of anti-Jewish attacks, killings and wars than such anti-Jewish attacks elsewhere. (Now wait for Avi to start murkying this with stats including inner city and drug crimes from places and types of events that have few Jews.) And the big Zionist lie that Israel will serve as a safehaven in the future if there’s risk elsewhere is also a fallacy. Who is to say that it won’t be the Jews in Israel running to other countries if the risk there becomes unbearable?
Eretz Yisroel is Eretz HaKodesh, how is that even a debate?
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Health didn’t say Iran is safer than America. Regarding your previous comment to me, the Jews in Israel live in constant fear of war and terrorist attacks.
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gavra: People who work for a think tank, philosophers and paid chessplayers are counted as gainfully employed, so I don’t see why a paid Kollel member wouldn’t be.
Wolf: There’s a new sheriff in town.
Walking around Toronto or Montreal with a yarmulka isn’t a problem.
Talking about Rashi, many or most Chasidishe girls don’t learn Rashi since it is ??????? ????????? ???? and the Chasidishe poskim, including the Satmar Rebbe, psaken that it isn’t permitted to teach them. (VaYoel Moshe, Maamar Loshon Hakodesh, ch. 33 & in the 3rd part of Vayoel Moshe – “Maamar Loshon Hakodesh” – based on a teshuva that the Satmar Rebbe ZT’L wrote to Rav Pinchos Hirshprung ZT’L of Montreal).
Queen: Health’s point is still valid even with your disclaimer. A larger percentage of Jews living in Israel were murdered or maimed for being Jewish than the percentage of Jews living in Iran.
You mentioned you take notes. Do you have a shiur with him?
If the employee pool won they can’t all become the bosses.
ubiquitin: Nur in chasidishe chadorim? Ich hub gemeint as s’kimt fin der Torah HaKedosha!
You make up the rules as you go along…
Is that how you’re able to cite maare mekomos in the Gemora? 😉
I’m glad you made it there and back alive, Charlie. If was a close call and we were all worried for you!
Hey, maybe you two went to the same cheder! 🙂
Nu, so what’s the answer to the question I posed above in my third post on this thread, regarding the poor person giving less tzedaka with more difficulty versus the rich person giving more more tzedaka with less difficulty?
My guess is not because usually in American law a finder is not entitled to keep lost items, even if it remains unclaimed.
Is there a chiyuv Tzedaka on an inheritance? If not, he is going above and beyond his obligation whereas the person who earned it may only be giving the obligated amount. (Even if both give the same dollar value.)