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DY – you’re right, thanks, we’re asking Hashem to be metaken the world.
Does the term tikun olam (in the context of something we do) appear anywhere in Torah sources? Who made up the term?
LB, I’m not sure and there are probably people here who know better, but I will tell you what my impression always was:
I thought that it really is a Torah concept (in the paragraph after Aleinu, we say “l’sakein (l’takein) olam b’malchus Shakai…” which means “to fix the world with the Kingdom of Hashem”), but the secular world adopted the concept and gave it a broader, more secular, liberal meaning (and basically changed the meaning) so the Frum world doesn’t usually use the concept since it would be misunderstood according to the Secular Liberal translation.
Note that we talk about: “l’sakein olam b’malchus Shakai”, the world can ONLY be fixed (receive a tikun) through Hashem’s Kingdom, and I think that part is probably left out of the secular interpretation, whereas we would say that it’s the main part.
Regarding Avi Weiss, since he is no longer considered to be Orthodox, his usage of the term is really irrelevant.
“Or Pachad Yitzchak by Rav Yitzchak Lampronti?”
Is that the encyclopedia?
What topic is discussed in Pachad Yitzchak and in which volume and maamar (I was assuming you meant Rav Hutner, Zatsal’s Seifer?)
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“Where I think we disagree is that having fun together is bolstering the “non-platonic”ness of the relationship, just because the relationship will culminate in a non-platonic fashion (hopefully). One can and should bolster the “platonic” aspect of a relationship even when they are married (during certain times .)”
I don’t think things are so black and white – that something either is completely platonic or non-platonic. I thought that both aspects are usually there. Even when one is “bolstering the “platonic” aspect of a relationship” it doesn’t mean that it the relationship (at those times) is completely platonic.
The same would go with dating. I have always been told that any relationship between a male and female is by definition non-platonic which is also why I was under the impression that it is assur for men and women to talk to each other more than necessary. It doesn’t mean that it is completely non-platonic, but it is not completely platonic either (which would therefore make it non-platonic, since anything that is not completely platonic is non-platonic).
I very distinctly remember one of my Rebbeim (someone who was a known Talmid Chacham) saying, “There is no such as a platonic relationship.”
“As an example, a recent ruling allows a woman to nurse a baby in shul while davening.
Excuse me for being ignorant, but why is this an issue?”
I was wondering the same thing (maybe I’m also ignorant).
I think people might be making OO sound better than it is. I was under the impression that they do things that are much more problematic than some of the things listed sound to me. I thought they don’t say “shelo asani Isha”. (personally, if that is true, I find their refusal to say it offensive and demeaning, aside from the more obvious problems).
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You don’t have to be bold to post a link to a video nowadays, especially if you do so anonymously. Since the advent of the internet, it has become completely acceptable to shmear people all over the world.
And if he were her husband, he would not have posted such a title.
There is no problem with talking about what we were planning to do in a certain situation or even about what we think we would have done.
That is not a contradiction to Hashgacha Pratis. I am talking about what I would have done in a particular situation. How does that contradict Hashgacha Pratis?
I don’t think I would have had a choice.
In terms of halachic issues (if that is why you are asking), I didn’t think there were any, since I spoke to several people about doing jury duty, and no one mentioned a halachic issue. In fact, one person told me that her parents volunteered for jury duty. I know her parents – her father taught me, and he was my sister’s B.Y. high school principal, so while he’s not a poseik, he is someone whom I would trust that if he did it, there probably was no halachic problem with it.
And I think there were other people who told me they did it. It is even very possible that I asked a sheilah, but I don’t remember anymore.
I did try to get out of it but they didn’t accept it.
If I hadn’t asked a sheilah initially, I probably would have asked if I were called up l’maaseh. It is possible that the reason I didn’t ask was because I figured out that I wouldn’t be called up anyhow. I no longer remember all my thought processes at the time.
GAW – thanks for clarifying! I totally thought you meant something very different. I have been REALLY upset by the Motzi Shem Ra being spread by some of the posters here about the lady. I don’t remember exactly who said what, but there definitely were inappropriate things said. But I’m glad to hear that wasn’t your point.
derech agav, I find the title of the thread very upsetting. That is definitely Motzi Shem Ra. Even when you are allowed to say something about someone, you are not allowed to use a subjective negative adjective (such as screaming) to describe them. There are other words that could have been used that are accurate and don’t have such a negative connotation.
I remember once calling the Shmiras Halashon hotline to ask them if I was allowed to tell someone that a certain boy whom she was upset at because he had forgotten that he had agreed to go out with her on a second date was spacy so that she wouldn’t be upset, and the Rav told me to use a different word instead of spacy that he thought sounded better (I can’t remember what it was.)
ZD – when I was called up, I was told that I wouldn’t get paid at all (maybe some of the transportation costs, I don’t remember exactly), and it would have ending up meaning a tremendous loss of parnassah for me, since I was hired for a subbing job right around the dates when my jury duty was supposed to start, and it wouldn’t have been yashar for me to accept the subbing job knowing that I had jury duty then.
However, Boruch Hashem, I did my research and figured out that I was unlikely to have to go in since I had a high number, so I told the person hiring me about the jury duty but I also told her that I thought it was highly unlikely that I would actually have to go in. She was a bit nervous, but she believed me and gave me the job anyhow, and Boruch Hashem, I turned out to be right!
Someone I know told me that her (Yeshivish) parents volunteered for jury duty.
Huju, I didn’t read all the posts here, but from the ones I had read, I thought the main discussion was regarding whether or not it’s permitted halachically. But again, I didn’t read all the posts.
I wouldn’t have minded doing jury duty. My problems were that the first time I was called up, I had a major work conflict, and the second time, I had already moved back to Israel and didn’t even know about it.
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Ubiquitin – are you saying that you think that the State of Israel has a right to make and enforce laws that are against halacha?!!!!!
Maybe I have a split personality and I’m a dozen people. But in that case, I would probably have a dozen user names, and I would sound like a different person each time.
LB- it’s a known fact that many or most or all Gedolim thought there were some problems with Chassidus at the beginning, although today it is accepted. I could be wrong, but my impression was that It is Time for Truth was not trying to attack Chassidus. The proof is that the source of his comments is the Satmar Rebbe. My impression was that he was just pointing out that there are dangers if it is misused.
But, it is possible that I am judging the post too favorably, and the first sentence could have been phrased better. I’m not sure.
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Very funny, it’s probably one of the safest car services around. Definitely a whole lot better than the goyish one in Lakewood which I stopped using for a reason.
I thought you’re the most voluble poster (or were until LB and I came on the scene with our combined 18 kavim…)
Thanks for the compliment, M. Kind of wondering why that post was edited 🙂 Certainly started out nice enough….
How? If two people share it? Why would someone let someone else use their username? They might not like the things the other person writes.
Safta, did it work out in the end?
Joseph, What’s a tin anniversary, and how could it have been over 3 months ago if your profile says that you joined Dec 10?
Also, why are there no posts in your profile?
Takahmamash – why would you pay someone $1,500 just to set you up for 6 months? Most people do it for free.
Was she davka known to be a really good shadchan?
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Writer Soul: “If you want something more on the quirky-BY side, perhaps Midreshet Tehillah?”
I am glad you mentioned Midreshet Tehillah. I was thinking that that might be a really good idea, but I didn’t know enough about it to feel comfortable “pushing it” too much.
M – maskim. everything you are saying is true. I was really just talking about the specific point you made about the two types of schools. I was just thinking that there probably are many teenage girls who would benefit from a school that is more the connecting type but at the same time they have trouble acknowledging this fact. That is a basic characteristic of adolescence, as well as humans in general.
That was really my only point initially, but now that you mention it, it is very important for teenagers (and everyone else too, for that matter, but particularly teenagers) to have mentors to get advice from, and it does seem to me that this is something particularly important for baisyaakovliberal. And it does sound like her teachers are doing a very good job of guiding her.
“Unless your Shabbos naps are so powerful that your CR dreams manifest in the real world”
That still sounds like chillul Shabbos to me.
but, I thought of another possibility of how I could be Joseph. Maybe I write the posts before Shabbos and ask a friend in EY to post it for me when it’s Shabbos in the US. That way, no one will suspect that I’m Joseph.
The only problem is that we are both SO different, there is no way we could possibly be the same person. Also, we disagree sometimes.
Ubiquitin:
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“the laws do not always follow Halacha.”
they rarely do. And when they do it is accidental.”
And therefore, if he did in fact act according to halacha (which he may have), he should not be found guilty. Period. (I’m not necessarily blaming anyone – I don’t even know enough of the facts to do so – but, I can definitely say that if he acted according to halacha, something wrong is being done.)
Assurnet – +1
The bottom line is, without necessarily blaming anyone, it is very sad and undeserved that he was convicted of manslaughter. And if there is any way that could be changed, it should be.
“LOL to LUL.”
What was that supposed to mean??
“P.S. She specifically says in the video that she will go speak to the Roshei Yeshiva. You don’t need to be Dan L’Kaf Zechus to say that she doesn’t think BMG approved of the development.”
You seemed to think that she was acting against Daas Torah by speaking to the Roshei Yeshiva. It sounded like you (and/or others? I no longer remember exactly who said what) thought that the Roshei Yeshiva were clearly in favor and t/f she is acting against Daas Torah by discussing it with them. If she doesn’t think BMG (or any Gadol) approved of the development, she is certainly not acting against Daas Torah.
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Kitov – I apologize if my response was insensitive.
GAW – “ulelamaid – And I’ll judge you favorably that you are really Rav Feivel Cohen, a “Senior” Posek, to come out with all of those P’sakim.”
They aren’t my Psakim. They are the Chofetz Chaim’s. Everything I said is straight out of Hilchos Loshon Hora. You don’t have to be a poseik to tell someone that they can’t turn on the light on Shabbos, and you don’t have to be a poseik to tell someone that it is assur to speak or to be mekabel loshon hora.
GAW: – “Furthermore, you are making the assumption that the development is negative. Why are you not Dan L’Kaf Zechus that the development is positive?”
DY: “Why are you assuming that it is wrong to build this development?”
I didn’t assume that it is wrong to build the development. What I wrote is that we have to assume either that the Roshei Yeshiva did not say that it has to be done or that they did and the lady was not aware of that fact.
Some posters were assuming that the Roshei Yeshiva and/or R’ Aaron Kotler agreed to the development and that that meant that the lady was doing something wrong. If the Roshei Yeshiva agreeing to the development would mean that the lady is doing something wrong, it is assur to believe that the Roshei Yeshiva agreed to the development.
Since these posters think that if the Roshei Yeshiva agreed to the development it would mean that the lady is doing something wrong, they are not allowed to believe or say that the Roshei Yeshiva agreed to the development.
In terms of the developers, read my previous post. I pointed out how we can be “dan l’kaf zchus” them as well.
I focused more on being “dan l’kaf zchus” the lady since she was the one about whom motzi shem ra was being discussed. And I was trying to undo some of the damage done and prevent more from being done. If it had been the other way around, I would have focused more on being “dan l’kaf zchus” the developers. But in any case, I did present their side as well.
GAW – if you want specific sources for the halachos quoted, I will be happy to try to look them up for you. But only on condition that you promise to actually read them. I’m kind of tired of looking up and typing up sources only to have them ignored. Thank you.
DY – you were making assumptions that my case was not comparable to the lady with the sick child without knowing the details of the case despite the fact that I (who obviously do know the details) had said that I thought it might be comparable. That is being judgmental.
I had specifically said that I couldn’t present all the details. Perhaps that wasn’t clear and you thought you had all the details and that’s why you said what you did?
Again, I can’t go into the details, but it had nothing to do with time management. I can’t go into the details because it is too personal.
“See, your trying to say you were really an oines is best saved for your posek.”
I wasn’t asking you to posken. I was simply saying that it’s possible that I was an oines and I would need to ask a sheilah.
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M- very good point. At the same time, one also has to keep in mind that 17 year olds don’t always know what is best for themselves in this regard, and they should keep that in mind as well.
In terms of the connecting – they should also consider whether or not the connecting is done in an emotionally healthy, well-balanced way.
Moderator – we have a chiyuv to judge the lady favorably and assume that neither the Roshei Yeshivas or R’ Aaron Kotler agreed to this development, and that even if they did, she did not know that.
We are not allowed to consider any other possibility, and if someone says otherwise, we are not allowed to believe them. (btw, this was the case before someone claimed that the Roshei Yeshivas only knew about this yesterday. I just thought that now people will have a better understanding as to why it was problematic to be assuming that the RY’s knew about this).
We can simulaneously judge the developers favorably that they were under the impression that the Roshei Yeshivas agreed to them.
As for the posters who were posting Motzi Shem Ra, we can judge them favorably that they did not realize it was Motzi Shem Ra and would want to know so that they can correct their errors.
DY- that is very judgmental and insensitive. You don’t know my situation, it was a very difficult one (and too personal to explain), and your words are very hurtful. I am sure that you didn’t mean to be insensitive which is why I am letting you know.
Naftali18 – +1 million!
Especially for this line:
“(And btw the Roshei Yeshiva knew nothing about this until yesterday!”
If that statement is true,
Everyone who assumed that the Roshei Yeshiva knew about it, and gave their approval and that the lady knew that the Roshei Yeshiva knew about it was completely oiver on being chosheid b’ksheirim, motzi shem ra and embarrassing someone publicly!!
If that is trueYou owe her a tremendous apology and a lot of brachos!
disclaimer added by mod to avoid motzi shem ra on those who assumed they knew, just in case this isn’t true since we have no real evidence at this point
WTP – Maybe it was oines, and the Rav held that for Oines you light an extra candle. According to the footnotes in the SS”K, there is such an opinion, although it doesn’t sound like he holds that way. I don’t know whether or not anyone holds that way l’maaseh.
Wow! Are you here the longest? I hadn’t realized anyone was here more than 8 years.