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Or is music inherent? Built into us. A rhythm that one eventually finds. It can bring joy. Soothe sorrow. In a world without any song, any tune, any melody –Would we know what we’re missing?
Wouldn’t it be beyond our comprehension? It’s not the same as never knowing treif. That at least we can see. It’s tangible.
Music, singing, playing… would be beyond our reality.
What’s interesting is that if this was true: No music or singing or playing allowed at all, how would anyone know what music was?
We know what a wall looks like, and can visualize what it may be to have it complete. We make a conscious effort to leave part of it alone.
Someone may think to wear all of one’s jewelry. She can picture it, but refrains from putting it all on at one time. It’s a conscious effort where she must choose which to wear and which to leave at home (or a safe deposit box, etc).
As for music, if someone was born in a world without it, would that person know that something was missing?
Banging on pots and pans or glasses as a child would only amount to racket.
One would grow out of that stage and have no clue that with a beat, those sounds could have been lovely?
LU: I’ve never heard of the not wearing all your jewelry at once thing.
Unless someone has one pair of earrings, one bracelet, one necklace, and one ring, that seems like a difficult thing to do. Maybe we’re more blessed today to have an abundance of jewelry (in a wide range of affordable price points… even those 25-cent rings at the grocery store may count).
Thank you for enlightening me on this 🙂
I really like the leaving portion of one’s wall unplastered. It helps to put life in perspective.
LU: Mazel tov! You just won Health Minister Yaakov Litzman’s chealthy Chanukah award for moderating your Chanukah consumption.
It’s a great thing 🙂
Btw, I had enough latkes on the first night to last eight!
No joke. Sweet potato. Regular potato. Applesauce. I actually substituted my sufganiyot quota for extra latkes.
The only thing that you missed out on was the need to run off 5,000 extra calories. So imho you ended up on top here 🙂
Meno, you are most generous with your fee-exemptions.
Thank you. It’s the small things that make a big difference.
oilamhavodah: Hopefully someone has answers for you here.
Also, if you haven’t already have checked out imamother dot com, it may also be a good resource for more info on these two yeshivot.
May you get clarity on the best yeshiva for your son.
I’m on hold right now. On a phone call.
If this company was frum, does that mean that I would be spared of this elevator music?
Updated: Thank you G-d! This phone call was a blessing. Thank you thank you thank you. Mamash.
Thank you Geordie613 🙂
Wow! I’ve never never never never never never never heard of this.
I’ve heard of kol isha. That in itself seems to say that listening to instrumental music and a man’s voice is permissible.
My LOS had music playing at a simcha.*
Wait.. is music different than a live band? Do you mean recorded music? (Or did they not have that back in the day anyway?)
*The music playing at my LOS that I was referring to was a live band.
I’m pretty sure that I’ve heard music played at another holiday at my LOS. I know rabbis who play in bands or have a relative in a band. My LOR sings on Shabbos.
Is it offensive to ask a rabbi or rebbetzin who I know listens to music, plays music, and/or sings be offensive?
Was this part of Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai’s deal with the Romans to keep the now-Jewish people at bay from making any scenes? Or do sources say that he initially just called for a temporary period of solemn, like we do during the 3 weeks?
IiTfT: Wiki states that Torah Vodass is a chareidi yeshiva.
“‘Torah im Derech Eretz’ historically influenced the yeshiva’s philosophy,[9] but today it is strongly influenced by the haredi or, ultra-orthodox philosophy.
However, Torah Vodaas is one of the many major haredi yeshivas that allow its students to attend college while studying at the yeshiva.
The great majority of the yeshiva’s graduates go on to work in fields that are not related to the torah education that they received in yeshiva.[10]” (Wiki)
Sources:
9. Ben Zion Weberman (1896-1968): Life and Legacy of an Orthodox Jewish Attorney in New York City During the Interwar Period and Beyond, Moshe Rapaport, University of Hawaii
10. Helmreich, William B. (2000). The World of the Yeshiva: An Intimate Portrait of Orthodox Jewry. KTAV Publishing House, Inc. p. 268. ISBN 9780881256420.
If you concur, please feel free to update the page and references accordingly 🙂
This Ferris Wheel sounds like a big deal
1yo thread
Wait what?!
Sam2 said “, on a simple level, Halachah says all music is Assur all year round.”
Halachically speaking, no one is ever allowed to listen to any music?
Please tell me how I’m misunderstanding this post.
Interesting. What’s up with babies and childrens’ stomachs?
Growing up my brother used to throw up at dinner so often! He would eat too much too fast and then run from the dinner table before he burst. I’m laughing right now remembering it. It was the most interesting thing.
Also, when I was a child, I could swallow things and then somehow take it back up my esophagus to my mouth. Super easy to do with pasta, but I could swallow other more difficult to navigate individual things and somehow get it to come back up a few seconds later.
At some point digestion became a one-way street.
Maybe some Kabbalist has a theory. Perhaps my neshamah wasn’t fully human at the time. I was part cattle. However since I didn’t have the additional stomachs, the result was just playing with the food and marveling while eating.
Maybe some babies are also part cattle?
LU: What about chocolate pizza?
Chocolate in the shape of a pizza inside a pizza box.
It’s still pizza because it’s surely has a printed label, SKU number, and online reviews –all of which prove its legitimacy.
By being sensitive and respectful and etc, I think that we can minimize the harm.
Nevertheless, no one can control the way that another person responds to something not working out. It may not even be anything that the other person did. It could simply trigger past unresolved feelings of abandonment, anxiety, and/or so on.
That said. The one thing that a rabbi suggested helps in this regard is using a shadchan.
The breakup goes through a third party, who can then counsel and support the person in moving on and finding the right person. That way any emotional hardship is mitigated and any feelings can be speedily responded to, and then directed forward in a healthy manner.
Lol IITFT!
What do you want? You really want the truth *It’s Time for Truth*?
Fine.
But don’t say that I didn’t warn you.
Warning.
$500 million of the $600 million was used to purchase luxury cell phone cases.
The rest of the money is being funneled towards the Ferris Wheel, purchased via Costco’s “Circus” Services portal.
Thank you Staten Island for keeping it real.
Is that because they need air to pass through? Like when you punch another whole in an aluminum can of tomato juice (flat top) and pour from the other side?
Or the gas tank has an extra hole to let air out as the gasoline goes in?
But babies suck and suck and it creates some wormhole where the milk ends up beyond the point where it began.
A couple weeks ago, someone on the Luach board posted an ad for her niece in Israel.
Maybe the Baal Shem Tov wasn’t forced, per se.
Still, from what I learned, it sounded like he could have done nothing, or found a way to make those who didn’t belong, belong so much so that their divine service grew strong.
Serving Hashem with joy the Jewish world a throng.
Add a tune and this becomes a song.
ubiquitin at al: Maskima
Don’t judge Freemasonry by the Freemasons.
They’re only human.
6yo thread
Also some of the Ferris Wheel money needs to go to a savings account where it can build interest.
In the event that chas v’shalom ma’she’oo koreh, az the funds will go to quiet anyone and the press.
Fortunately 20-cents of each dollar spent on machinery, publicity, and corn dogs, goes directly into the hearts of a thousand illiterate Kindle readers.
I didn’t realize that Freemasons have to believe in anything. I thought that it was like a fraternity.
Joseph: So what happens if someone believes, joins, and then stops believing?
WinnieThePooh: Thank you for all of your answers 🙂
“As far as the last siddur issue, someone will get the last siddur, why shouldn’t it be you, especially if not having it means you will not be able to daven.” (WTP)
Why not me? Guilt.
Reasons why I may feel guilty are situations where:
-I’m younger.
-The other person has been going to the shul longer.
-I’m faster than the other person walking.
-I don’t come so often, so who am I to claim territory?
If I have a siddur and someone else doesn’t, I feel selfish and on alert until that person has a siddur and can daven too.
Baruch Hashem, honestly I cannot think of a specific time and place this has happened. Yet I know this has happened.
I feel weird about seats too. I don’t want to take up someone else’s space.
Maybe it’s insecurity. I feel like this is someone else’s shul and who am I to just show up randomly and occupy space. Hmm… Thank you. It could also be where I’ve gone and whether I felt like I belonged and was welcome in that community. I could probably have the same siddur experience someplace else, but feel differently if it’s a different energy. Obviously, I bring my own energies and insecurities.
Likely, feeling like “Who am I to take this siddur? Who am I to pray here?…” could be my guilt for driving to shul. Right away I feel like I don’t belong there, or Hashem is disappointed in me. So little things, to me, may be interpreted as a sign that, “Okay see, this is someone else’s seat or someone else needs this siddur, so clearly I should just go home.”
Thank you for making me think about this.
Health! quick: Are you certified in dispensing chill pills?
What about planning a semester abroad in Israel after seminary too?
You can keep it in mind while you’re in seminary, to give yourself something to look forward to while you’re in the program.
Plus, you’ll still have Israel-time for personal growth, as you develop your college footing. Since you’ll be a freshman, there may be unique scholarships open to you.
Also, maybe LU knows more about this, but you may be able to find a frum community of college girls who you can dorm with in Israel.
You can build the life-experience in this setting, observing the mitzvot while still in college, and apply it to dorm-life when you return home. It could help you feel confident that you can keep your religious footing, which could help you keep strong when the time comes for you to transition to a more secular environment.
Just another idea to help you balance your experience and growth.
2yo thread
Is it permissible to chew gum while davening?*
*In the event that your mouth otherwise gets dry. The alternative would be taking periodic sips of water for medical purposes.
On Shabbos, carrying water into shul would be questionable and I doubt a rav would permit it. Even if it was allowed, taking a cup of water to one’s seat while davening is a recipe for a spill. Safety hazard.
The gum would lose flavor if it was fresh at the start of davening.
Would it be better to chew it enough first to lose the flavor, or would that require a separate Borei Nefashos while it’s still in the mouth?
So at this point the flavorless gum may be considered, by a non-halachic authority who wishes to plea one’s case, to be a medicine of sorts used to alleviate dry mouth.
A) Is it permissible to interrupt someone’s davening to ask for the page number?
A1) Man
A2) Woman
B) Is it permissible to noticeably peer over into that person’s page to get the page number?
B1) Man
B2) Woman
C) Is it permissible to show someone else the page in your book, pointing to the number, and/or whisper the number during davening?
C1) Man
C2) Woman
D) Is it permissible to hand someone your siddur, which is open to the proper page, and get another siddur for yourself while davening?
D1) Man
D2) Woman
E) Is it permissible to take the last siddur when you see someone else is going to the siddur shelf at the same time?
E1) Man
E2) Woman
F) Is it permissible to tuck in someone of the same gender’s clothing tag that is sticking out while davening (in the case that this person is close enough to you and he/she would appreciate the gesture)?
F1) Man
F2) Woman