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The other week my LOR was talking about how it was problematic that mashgichim work for the kosher processing plant, and not a monitoring agency.
If the plant manager does not like how the mashgiach’s certification then he/she can just fire him and get a new one who will do as he says.
Why is this the way? Was it always like this? So OU doesn’t have their own mashgichim that they send out from a central agency?
What are the barriers in implementing a centralizing agency and authority to take over the kashrut process and liberate the mashgichim from feeling pressured to certify something treif or questionable as kosher?
Bed
Sheets
Sets
Tennis
Racquet
Noise
Laughing
Aww it really is a true story?
So sad.
May his memory whoever he is be a blessing ?
Mod-25: I’m in awe of your cooking marathon. Must be some seudah coming up.
Please share the recipe if it’s permitted!
5ish & TOL: Yays 🙂
We really didn’t go like sheep to a slaughter (that in itself was a misconception).
Thank you for reminding me of the name of the event, Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.
Makes sense that the secular Jews cared about looking tough to the outside world.
Personally, I have mixed feelings about the Jews who smuggled in Torahs and Jewish ritual holy objects because it put others lives in dangers. At the same time, without Torah and such, they would be living dead. Plus, we have stories about past greats who kept Judaism and teaching Torah in the atrocious conditions.
Another thing was the state of mind. They would/could die anyway for anything, but if they did not try to bring in Torahs, Channukiahs, etc, then surely there would be none.
So in summary from my first thought, I think that I resolved my mixed feelings to ones of gratitude and admiration… the Jews who fought to keep Torah alive during the Shoah were very heroic. Agreed <3
“In general, the best thing usually is to hold yourself upright, maintain your dignity, act as though you are unaffected by what they are saying, and walk away (if possible). ” (LU)
I like that a lot. LOVE it actually.
Thank you!!! A++++++++++++++++++++
Makes me think of it like a nisayon. Hashem put me right there at that moment, not to do what comes naturally (which is to say something in defense), but to hold my tongue because He knows how much it means to do so and my energy would be better reserved for a mitzvah (which is hard to do when I’m crying and just want to sleep away the rest of the night to forget it).
Then again about “Fight” ~ What was the camp of Jews during the Holocaust who fought back? They ended up dying, but did so after at least killing some Nazis.
Today people look at them like heroes.
Today people also look at the Jews who died with the Shema like heroes too.
Also, she told me that I should think about what I want out of saying something.
I wanted the person to know that speaking that way was unacceptable, inappropriate, and it was also inappropriate to get the employees agreeing with him (dunno if they meant it or were humoring him, but it was really gross to see the whole thing happening and not doing anything about it). Honestly, I wanted it to stop and make sure that this person did not do this again.
She said, if I remember correctly, that saying something was not going to change him and might get the employees in trouble. So what was the point here, esp since it put me in danger (even emotionally).
So by saying something to an anti-semitic anti-Jewish person, what would be the result?
I would want to report it to the police because they keep track of numbers and trends, or at least someone does, ideally.
Even if not, at least there is record of it. Proof. That one can go back to, especially if it becomes a pattern and one needs to take further legal action (yes even if it is in a parking lot or street, who knows if that person does this regularly and gets a kick out of it?).
It’s hard because there is no saying how things will turn out. Sometimes? barking back puts the offender in place (does it?). Sometimes it just escalates the hate. We aren’t in control of the yetzar hara here, since it’s someone else’s on full-force against us (even though of course it’s all Hashgacha Pratis), and that can make it ever more frightening.
Good thing for flight or fight. Moral of the story: Flight?
LU: Thank you. Def good to know.
I learned this lesson the hard way (Baruch Hashem could have been worse) last year when a customer made fun of another customer in a store and he was going on and on about her after she walked away.
Needless to say, the whole thing turned on me and it got intense and I literally was shaking because I was so afraid. I went home crying. My therapist told me that while it was the “right” thing to do, ideally, it was also not safe.
My therapist said that had she been in my shoes, she would have not said anything, in order to protect herself. Esp, since she has no clue who this person is and assumes that he could be capable of anything, including G-d forbid waiting outside the store when I’m walking back to my car and etc (which I did not even think of at the time).
Furthermore, someone who is that angry/deranged/skewed generally is not going to consider what I am saying or any logic for the matter. Instead the person will get defensive.
You brought up using humor which is very smart. And yes the response has to be intelligent. At the same time, some people will not hear even intelligence from someone based on some prejudice, such as “if a woman says it”, or “a Jewish person says it”, etc.
The person is judgmental and says something because he/she may believe that someone who is Jewish/other is less than.
Is it safer to talk back to a woman or a man?
What if the woman calls her husband/guy-friend/etc to defend her?
For instance: What if there is an unpleasant verbal exchange, and she texts or calls him really quickly and within seconds this angry guy who thinks you’re picking on his “wife-woman/girl-friend/etc” shows up to the scene and becomes an even greater threat, AND/OR he follows you ~ G-d forbid on all of that.
Mod-29, Thanks & Excellent point 🙂
Correction please:
The Torah mentions a one horned horse-like animal that a number of scholars say that may be where the unicorn [,of modern society, which portrays the unicorn as some mystical creature of Greek origin, actually] originated [in real life prior and was Hashem’s creation, according to some Jewish scholars because in the Torah, there is mention of an animal resembling a unicorn that as far as we know no longer exists today] .
Women
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Modest
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Carpal tunnel
Unicorns are from the Torah.
In last week’s parsha, we learned that unicorns are real. The Torah mentions a one horned horse-like animal that a number of scholars say that may be where the unicorn originated.
Avram in MD: Thanks for the insider knowledge 🙂
Yay history lesson!
Wow. I anticipated someone saying that it’s assur and even the suggestion is cause for being blocked.
Then Mod-29 says something radical. Albeit not serious I suspect. Still…
Musta been some good stuffed cabbage.
Next time Meno. Next time.
Was there a weasel around?
And if they were all around then they’re likely mulberries
Marrano
RebYidd23 is Popa? Popa-inspired?
BTW LU…. remember that thread by PBS when he talks about his wife and everyone including you said that he wasn’t being serious. I get it now. I don’t think that he was being serious anymore. Sorry I took it way too literally and appreciate you pointing out that he wasn’t really sneaking around etc.
When you wear black sweaters, little fuzzies are more noticeable.
Do they have those lint removers at the yeshiva?
ZD, what did you do?
I think walking away was smart in this case for the judge. I guess it depends on the case but doing something may not always work and vice versa
ZD: Eeks. Are you okay? Hope you’re okay.
Some people are violent dangerous though and it’s unpredictable. Like someone who gets in a road rage verbal altercation and then pulls out a weapon chas v’shalom.
RebYidd23: Thank you for the public service announcement 🙂
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That’s a mermaid in a tnzius Purim mermaid costume.
Scratch
Itch
Anti-itch
Cream
Dream
That was so kind of you!
Too cute to consume
Wisdom of the CR #13
Do not overlook
Tomatillos at the store
And your kosher plate
Wisdom of the CR #12
Are you a Hero?
Devorah and Shimson were
You can be one too
The Goq: Was it a CR poster that bought them?
Meno: Given the chance again, would you at least look at the tomatillos?
…..Btw how do I know if I have seen one IRL?
Yytz: Maybe it’s just me but I noticed that men/guys prefer chocolate cakes and such desserts more so than women.
Or maybe they don’t have to say no as often because they naturally have more muscle mass and less body fat?
YY: Agreed. A+++
I thought you went to trollel
I saw a couple yellows and they may still be yellows now
Must be some real good stuffed cabbage
Dates
Yichud
Rebbe
Bracha
Name
YELLOW AGAIN!!!
No yellow since yellow went MIA for me