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Joseph, you ignored my question. If taxpayer money is being used, andcfrum taxpayers have a right to sit on boards of education,that determine how money is spent on public schools, how do you you deny non Jews the same right when it comes to yeshivas?
Joseph, be careful what you wish for, as you may actually get it.
Orthodox Jews were able to run for school board positions because they made the valid argument that as taxpayers, they were entitled to a say on how tax payer money was spent.
Well, yeshivas were ever funded by government, how do you keep taxpayers from having a say on how they are run?
Abba, the Republicans won enough seats last year to control the NY Senate outright
So, if people want to retain the low density that drew them to an area, that qualfies as antisemitism?
What are the issues?
Newbeem in New York, someone that poor qualifies for health care under Medicaid, unless they are illegal
selling kibbudim on shabbos deals with money
Here is my opinion .You said imagine if all the Jews left and demolished their homes. I replied that , for the reasons stated, that scenario is impossible.
Circle, even if the Jews move, they would still own their homes and would still owe property taxes and the balance on their mortgage ( how else would they be able to demolish their homes ). They would also be walking away from the enormous and expensive community infrastructure ( shuls, schools, mikvas etc ). This is why yours is an empty threat
I responded before Damoshe’s comment was posted
Why don’t you call or Google them yourself?
Joseph, Abba was basing this argument on the public school students living 2 and a half miles away.
Also, what they speak at home is irrelevant to what the school teaches. Do they teach English?
What part of the expression is not tznius?
Abba, you really should consider a career in writing fantasy novels. In your long winded, complicated scare scenarios, you have yet to address three points:
1. A majority of the students in the courtesy zone probably live less than a mile from school, not rwo and a half, and don’t need budding.
2. How do yeshiva kids manage to get to shul, friends on Shabbos without a bus? Walking perhaps?
3. Do they not teach English in the private schools? Unless they are also illegal immigrants, why would they need private placement for instruction in Yiddish?
Ask a rav
Neut,I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your just naive. Serial abusers, whether Jewish or in the church, got away with it because persons in authority looked away. To this day, the Agudah still lobbies against a bill in New York State that would require private schools to check teacher’s fingerprints against a registry.
( public schools are already required )
Rabbinical and community leaders often strongly discouraged going to police, but did nothing to stop the abuser
Abba,are you saying that none of the special ed kids to speak English?
Haven’t been there since my sister moved. The only thing to see was Fort Erie
Joseph, then shut down every Jewish newspaper and sites like YWN, which make their money via advertising.
Yes, stop for gas and go to Niagara Falls
Abba, on Shabbos, do yeshiva kids ride busses to shul to their friends or do they, heaven forbid, walk? You keep throwing around the 2.5 miles figure. Are you implying that no child lives within 2.5 miles of a school? That they all live exactly 2.5 mes away and this require courtesy bussing?
I don’t have the statistics, but I would venture to say that over half of the public school kids in question live within a mile of a school
Abba, the “State” was also elected by voters. I’m curious, other than this issue, in what other ways do you manifest your deep concern for the welfare of the public school children?
But I love in America, not the rest of the world
Abba, my school district provides free bus service to any school within 20 miles of the district. Genders are mixed and, if necessary, schools are combined on the same van without any difficulties.
Abba, intentionally escalating the cost by rescheduling discharge times would only make it more certain that the bussing will end. The monitor would argue that gender segregation was not a religious requirement as the parents no doubt take busses, trains and planes that are not segregated. Your scare tactic scenarios are far fetched.
Bashing McCain for no reason sent to far. Being shot down didn’t make him a hero. Refusing an offer of early release because his father was an admiral unless all prisoners were released, and undergoing torture because of his refusal, that made him a hero. Trump avoided Viet Nam via deferments and had the chutzpa to criticize McCain. McCain has made countless visits to wounded vets at Walter Reed WIGHOUT camera coverage, which is why Trump doesn’t know about it
Abba, there is no requirement to provide be der segregated transportation. The repeated attempts at segregation on the public bus routes between Brooklyn, Monsey and Lakewood have been repeatedly shot down in the courts. Districts that don’t provide courtesy bussing have not had to provide the infrastructure you describe.having yeshivas throw tantrums by rescheduling hours just reinforces the decision not to pay for the bussing.in addition, if yeshivas in Lakewood areso packed, exactly where are the students supposed to transfer to?
DY, if you think there is nothing to discuss here, then, will all due respect, I suggest you follow the advice you gave me with regard to Chalav Yisroel.
Nobody, outside of frum Jews who currently wear black hats, sears a formal hat anymore. It’s been out of fashion for 50 years. Whether you choose to wear one of not, it us not a sign if respect. If anything, when the National Anthem is played at events, people are asked to REMOVE their hats as a sign of respect.
There are some issues here that I don’t quite understand. I just checked my container of Breakstones butter and it has an OUd. I then checked my package of Monterrey Jack cheese and it has an OK Chalav stam. Rav Moshe allowed Chalav stam.
My point being his what is gained by this monthly rehashing of the issue. Who cares what additives may or not have been added to the butter? That’s why you buy butter with hashgacha. People who eat Chalav stam will continue to do so as they don’t hold from the Nirbater Rav, and those who use CY will continue to do so. No minds are being changed.
Joseph, where did you read about the non-existant monitor taking away services? What I had read about the Lakewood situation was that because the yeshivas were on varying schedules, requiring multiple trips to the same schools, it was becoming too expensive.
Abba s. Yeshiva students are going to drop out because of the two and a half miles?
Joseph, you didn’t address the main point Yiddish names are of Germanic origin ,and have no intrinsic kedusha other that being phonetically spelled with Hebrew letters. It was simply the Germanic Jews ( and later the Eastern European Jews ) everyday language. It was no different that the Arameic names in the Gemara. At one point in time, there was no minhag or mesora to use Yiddish names.
What is the difference between taking Germanic ( Yiddish ) names and spelling them with Hebrew letters and spelling Bob with Hebrew letters? Remember, prior to the 1500’s there was no minhag to support using Yiddish names as Yiddish didn’t exist.
Things are so bad in my friend’s shul in Brooklyn that they put up signs first asking, and when that didn’t work, then demanding that meshulachim and schnorrers not interrupt the shliach tzibbur during chazzeras hashatz.
Newbee, what was the sample size upon which you based your observations?
Most phones have a vibrate mode, which should be used if the phone is necessary ( I.E. doctor on call, wife in ninth month, seriously ill parent in hospital )
Mfgo3, your castigating a community over something that, if it happened at all, occurred over 50 years ago? I was in Atlanta two weeks ago and found it very pleasant. Whether we took the MARTA or a tram, you g men, both black and white, immediately got up and offered their seats to my wife and I. When we exuted MARTA ( Atlanta’s rail network) and couldn’t find the Coca Cola museum, a young man saw we were lost and, walking out of his way, took us there (I was wearing a kippa ). There is a boys yeshiva high schoola ( soon to move into a bigger campus after receiving approval rwo weeks ago from the zoning board ) and a girls yeshivas high school. Besides kosher groceries, two big chains ( Publix and Kroger ) both have large kosher food sections with good hashgachas, including meat, fresh baked goods and wine
No, the stereotypes were being loud, cutting lines, and strewing garbage. It was just anti-semetic as your racism.
What are you talking about (
Surprisingly, the Torah played an important role in the path that the Revolution ultimately took.
In. 1775, the Americans argument was with Parliament, not King George. They were perfectly happy to keep him as their sovereign, as long as they had their own Parliament. One year later, they pulled down George’s statue in lower Manhattan and melted them down for ammunition.
What happened? Thomas Paine wrote a pamphlet, Common Sense, that incited the Americans to reject the right of any man to rule as King over others. I had never actually read it until last May, when I discovered that Paine had largely based his polemic on Gideons refusal to be King and Shmuel’s complaint to Hashem regarding Bnei Yisraels request for a king.
Newbee, ironically there was a letter in the Flatbush Jewish Journal that was just like yours but it used frum Jews in the Catskills stereotypes. Based on your comment, the writer was being accurate, not anti Semitic
Can someone clearly explain, in English, the gist of this thread? Thanks
A third proviso: don’t do while blocking an aisle,
In my yeshiva high school during the sixties, our rebbes were musmachim of Lithuanian yeshivas. Boys would ask , in respectful fashion, basic questions ( I.e. why do wear a kippa ) . The rebbes assumed we were just being chutzpadik and yelled at us. Unfortunately, by the time we had a Rebbe ( in our senior year ) who was willing and able to answer, most of the boys were turned off and no longer interested.
Flatbushet, shidduch dates usually are intentionally held in public places; why does transportation have to be private?
Yes, I Hy have one in my basement and it works great
Nisht, available=convenient. It’s easy to converse and no less respectful
Rew, what are you talking about? There were millions of black slaves. Which other ethnicities were also slaves? ( if any ). The preservation of slavery and King Cotton drive the war. The rest was created by the planter class to persuade the 80% of the Southerners who were farmers who owned no slaves to fight.
The Parisian, when you take parking fees and tolls into account, that’s an enormous expense for each date. It’s much cheaper, and often much faster, to take public transit. Driving is a societal “mesorah” that doesn’t have to be followed
Why is a car necessary if public transportation is available?
Too bad the chickens weren’t covered by Obamacare