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@rebitzin it definitely can happen, based on the gemora in sanhedrin 98a where it speaks abt this
Depending on זכו or לא זכוWe should assume that we are זכו , no? So moshiach can come immediately.
@avik. 1. 🙂 read all 3 times again.
2. isnt golus long enough that we can get it now?
Dont we ask for moshiach every day?What’s the diff. Between blood or any other time your hand gets dirty and need to use a napkin? Isn’t it דרכו בכך and therefore not such a prob. Of צובע
(נט) בבגדיו וכו’ – ובבגד אדום כ”ש דאסור לקנחו דמתקן הוא [מ”א] ויש מקילין בכל זה כיון שהוא דרך לכלוך ויש לסמוך עליהם היכא דאי אפשר לו ליזהר בזה.
@zion
Thanks
I meant accounting to the rambam that we say is talking about two time frames – an earlier one which won’t have changes in this world, and the later one which will have.
According to that can techiyas hameisim still happen in the first period?can techiyas hameisim happen in the first period?
@coffe I heard a similar question regarding a widow that remarries, which husband does she go back to?
I think it’s a machlokes between the author of Rav Pe’alim and someone else.
I’ll try finding the makorOnce were on this topic
Can someone please explain, according to the rambam who says that when moshiach comes: עולם כמנהגו נוהג, and there wont be any changes in the world, isnt תחיית המתים a major change how can the rambam say there wont be any changes?True but Have you ever tried speaking yiddish to a German?
I’ve been to Germany and tried it, one of two things always happened either they replied in English or they ignored us – not because we spoke a bad yiddish or looked like tourists.Germans can see from a mile away that your not speaking German they know the difference between yiddish and german.
Even if it’s Creole German it’s still has distinct differences, no?
could it make sense that its not kadosh but, on the other hand its a language that Jews used, to separate themselves from the non-jews when speaking regularly so as not to use lashon hakodesh for mundane purposes
Even though there are non-jews that speak it they learnt it from us just like some of them off to speak lashon hakodesh
On a side note anyone know the history of yiddish?
Heads up I didnt look past this page to know how many times ppl posted 🙂 or what they posted so if its a repeat sorry
@NCB
I agree that it shouldn’t have been brought up here where ppl are Not intreasted
but to be dan lkaf zchus CS thought ppl are interested as you can see from CS first paragraph in her first post she just wanted to clarify questions that people have.
– i hopeFrom CS first post:
“I find that people completely misunderstand when Lubavitchers say things like the above, and panic, or happily relegate us as kofrim, depending on their education.So I thought to clarify: “
“That’s makes 0 sense. The majority of growth comes from the birth rate. Why on earth would you construct a theory that ignores it? OK, yes, is 0 Jews were being born then we would cease to exist. Congratulations, your theory holds up”
What if birth rate changes and the frum slow down?
Your looking at it from a practical view and I’m looking at it from a theroletical pointNot that i think it will C”V I was just bringing up a point.
Look at the diff in the style of writing between non political and yourself and you’ll see what I meant by haters
Already from the first page the style writing cud have been with a bit more derech eretz for the main topic on hand even though u totally disagree – (on a side note why you getting so worked up by someone you think is in mesivta and never went through shas and yorah deah)I know abt the back and forth that keep not getting answered to your satisfaction and as I wrote before (not abt the discussion you mentiond) – ask all your questions to a person you know face to face, not here.
Btw how did the topic of this thread change from the sugya of moshiach to the other topics ? (I prob. Missed that somewhere)
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If someone was trying to change your way of thinking (which most ppl here are not) then I agree with you for hating.We’re not asking you to defend your mesorah – we have two totally diff mesorah (E.G. are we you gonna tell you not to touch your beard (although even your great rabbis didn’t)? No! You say have your own mesorah).
we believe in the moshiach concept and other halachos which you might not understand from this thread (NOT BRINGING THAT SUBJECT UP), you disagree? Fine. Enjoy life have a good day! Or ask someone you know IF you are interested.
Not sure why this thread was brought up in the first place if ppl here have no interest.@non political
Correct
Open tanya“We’ve answered all the charges leveled against us, and as far as we’re concerned the lubavichers on the forum have not satisfactorily answered ours.”
I mentiond this too – ask someone you know your questions, not here.
I specificly didn’t continue with the simple answer that the Baal hatanya says (nothing deep you can open a gemora that the Baal hatanya refrences and see For yourself) because ppl here dont want answers they’re just looking to hate so if you have a question abt something ask someone you respect that learned.NEXT
“And I still contend that you didn’t understand his original statement. Even if the number of people freing out per year were 100 times the incoming baal teshuva rate, that does not necessarily mean the frum would be doomed to die out (even “in theory”). ”
I still hold of the theory I said – without looking at the birth rate (because right now we prob. have a faster birth rate but that can always change and) if ppl frieing out is 100 time more then BT then eventually the frum would die out C”VNEXT
As I said you found a few things that a few chabad ppl do (which some of those things have no source) and you based your opinion of the entire chabad based on them.NEXt
Even other chassidic groups dont become litvaks (nothing to do with chabad) rather others are becoming chassidic.Nothing personal no one is trying to make anyone chabad over here – every person has a purpose in life.
@NCB i was looking at it from a theoretical point, that according to you there is a possibility for religious people to die out.
Obviously practically that won’t happen but the fact is not because of what he said that they’re going at a faster rate.Next
“that people would switch to a group that allows them to daven late, not sleep in the sukkah, drink excessively, and call themselves “chossids.” That’s not a proof of emes that’s just a proof of easiness”
— I would agree with you if that would be the only things that chabad does, (which this entire thread at least for the last 3 pages is focusing on these few points, besides for when chabadshlucha wakes up every few days).But it looks like that’s the only things you know of chabad so I won’t argue but if you want truth find out a bit more.
But if your looking to hate you can find fault in anyone.
@coffee addict
As I said if you want a more detailed answer (including to the question u just mentiond) you will have to open a tanya – thats the test if ur actually intreasted or trying to learn on one footSearch online “tanya perek 1” and lessons in tanya with English explanations should be one of the results (with all the sources) and learn the first perek. or ask any of your friends that LEARNED tanya (not on this thread).
This thread looks like a fun place where people get “excited” over what ppl that never opened a safer say (both sides of the argument).
@coffee addict: In short, רבה said about himself that he is a בינוני and it’s known that he never stopped learning, to the point that the malach hamoves didnt have any control over him – so doesn’t seem right to say that he had 50/50 so there has to be more to it
For a more detailed answer and sources you can look in the first page of tanya perek 1.
@rso I did simple math: if “more people become non-religious than become religious.” Then eventually there will be no more religious ppl.
If truth doesnt win then it is not truth – we see this regarding מי סוטה, (depending on which opinion you hold of in the gemoroh)
@coffee addict
The bal hatanya answers that in his first perek@RSo get your facts straight
I thought u would give a better answer then that, u seem a bit intellectual.And what your saying is that eventually there won’t be any frum ppl left?
Not saying if its right or wrong but look in shulchan aruch siman 90 seif 22 and seif koton 71 regarding davening in front of pictures