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They ask the question, if uttering a brocho unnecessarily is biblical as mentioned above, how could the chachomim institute the making of a brocho in the first place? The answer that the Torah gave the strength to the chachomim through Lo Sosur to institute takonus what they felt necessary. A kal vochamer is biblical so they can learn out a kal vochamer from bentching. The Ritva in the beginning of Pesochim says that the chachomim made a brocho on mitzvas before its performance in order the the kavonoh be realized and therefore we don’t need any special kavonoh when doing mitzvos. The Nodei Beyhudah says that for this reason a שם יחוד is unnecesssary.
There is a joke about this where someone says I found a job that doesn’t pay much but it is steady. What is it? I am on a lookout tower waiting for Moshiach.
Isn’t it something to honor shabbos and yom tov with a white shirt?
The gemora says that one of the signs of Moshiach is when the young have no respect for the elderly.
Chassidism came about because of the fear of the pitfalls of kabbalah because of Shabsi Tzvi. By following the Rebbe’s view, they would be protected from faltering. The real sefardim learn currently kabbalah. It says when you are learning and stop in between and say how beautiful is this tree your endandangering your soul. The chasidic interpretation according the Kotzker is, do not sway from the teaching of the Torah to philosophy or kabbalah to understand how and why the tree grows.
This story of the out town yid is very convincing. If we don’t help him somehow what is the use of this whole forum? I am a senior retired living on social security, not rich. I don’t know how everyone else is. Maybe we can tell him where to turn to.
The Magen Avraham asks the question, how can the women say in bentchen על בריתך שחתמת בבשרנו, he answers that not having it because it is unnecessary, is like having it.
How could the women make birchas haTorah (Mechaber 48:14)? They have to learn how to do the mitzvas they are responsible. The problem is that they don’t do it ממצות לימוד התורה, it is only a הכשר מצוה? I heard an answer from Rav Noach Eisic Oelbaum that birchas haTorah might not be a birchas hamitzva but a birchas hahoduah, a brocho of praise, which women also need to take part of.
This might be related to another argument whether to make a barocho on Tefilin in Chal Hamoed. If we are exempt there could be the prohibition of bal tosif.
There is a joke from the Ben Ish Chay on expression used in the gemora חסורא מחסרא והכי קתני that people learn when they are not so well-off.
The Chacham Tzvi considered an Ashkenaz left in his will (if I remember correctly) that his descendant women should not make a brochoh on positive time dependent commandments.
iacisrmma, what you are saying is correct, they hold like the Rambam and the Mechaber O”CH 215:4, about saying unnecessary brochos which are biblical.
The MB 589:8 says that women are considered אינה מצווה ועושה, not directly commandment to do the mitzvos, who still get a reward for doing it.
ubiquitin, what you are saying is correct because Tosfas questions why don’t we say כל הפטור מהדבר ועושהו נקרא הדיוט when a person who is exempt from something and he does it is a simpleton? Tosfas answers that since the men have a requirement therefore the women can make a brochoh. The question is so what, but they are exempt? The answer according to you is that they are included in the group in the unity.
See the the Sadei Chemed כללות מ סימן קלה to קלח in great detail about different mitzvos.
Look at יביע אומר חלק א סימן כח about a long discussion about this. It is dependent on another argument between Tosfas and the Rambam if ברכה שאינה צריכה is a biblical or oral. See תוספות ראש השנה לג עמוד א on the top of the page.
The GRA’s view is that matzah in the seven days except the first day is a
קיום מצוה. The בעל המאור questions in ארבע פסחים why we don’t make a ברכה על אכילת מצה the whole seven days. He answers that we are not required to eat only matzas. If you eat matzos you are not eating eat it because it is matzos but because it is bread except the first day.I think that women have קיום מצוה not a חיוב מצוה just like ציצית that we make a ברכה on it.
Moderator: Why are the numbers not aligned? When I wanted to edit it, they became aligned. The numbers were not pasted but created right here. For this to work alignment is important.
start with 2 space 4 leave the next row blank and under 2 and 4 place 6 and 8 then fill in the blanks to add up to 15. The result is 2 9 4 place under it 7 5 3 and under it 6 1 8.
The alignment changes depending on the size of your browser window. Here you go:
How do you create a magic square from numbers 1-9 where they all appear once and adds up to 15
horizontally, vertically and diagonally?Start with 2 4 then fill in the blanks 2 9 4
7 5 3
6 8 6 1 8How do you spell fish? GHOTI – GH – rough
O – women
TI – nationRainus, this explains the reason why Rav Moshe did not want his tshuvas translated.
I grew up in a chassidishe yeshiva where they were very medakdek on the smallest minhag for example wearing a kittel for Hoshana Rabba leining, but Reb Moshe is more accommodating.
GAON look at what I said in reply 1483697
See the דרשת הרן – דרוש שביעי similar on what you are saying according to my understanding – they could not understand Rabbi Eliezer, so they could not follow his view because once the Torah was given down to earth, we must understand things with human understanding not heavenly.
A sefer called גדולי הדורות על משמר מנהג אשכנז brings from Rabbi Eliyohu Dessler that every group of Jews get influenced from the countries they live in with how to serve Hashem. The Russians are hot natured so they are chassidim. The Litvishe are cold so they learn the Torah in depth and Mussar. The Germans care about order, so they are very careful on minhogim. מכתב מאליהו חלק ד – ירושלים תשמח Page 129-130
Look on פנו לכם צפונה where the Klei Yokor explains that we must act hidden in galus not to show off with our fancy houses and to forget that we are there, thereby making non-jews jealous of us.
There are two tests poverty and affluence. Each has its own ordeal. The poor feels he has been forgotten and not being helped, whereas the affluent forgets who made him so. The cure is to remember that your current status comes from Hashem. He can make you poor or rich. Constantly keep in front of you the opposite. When you are poor, keep in mind that Hashem can make you rich, whereas when you are rich, remember, Hashem can change your fortune. The Chasan Sofer interprets the haggadah בשעה שיש מצה ומרור מונחים לפניך keep the good and the bad constantly in front of you. The word פרנסה might remind us of this. It has in it נס and נסה. For the poor, it is נסה a test, but for the rich, it should be a נס a miracle because he should always feel that he doesn’t deserve it.
I think the litvishe and chasidim argue on עת לעשות לה הפרו תורתך, make time when the Torah will be disrupted,. The litvishe believe that when the Torah is being disrupted, we have to accommodate somewhat not to disrupt any more accept for shabbos, but the chasidim believe the reverse הפרו תורתך עת לעשות לה when there will be a time when the Torah is disrupted, be strong and don’t allow any transgressions even the smallest in order that it should not bring to any greater transgressions.
Thank you Sabba8, of course, I didn’t have the chumash in front of me. so I misspelled it.
It appears to be from what Reb Moshe wrote that the reason women are exempt from positive time dependent commandments is because they have less kadushah from men just like a yisroel has less kadushah from a kohen
or levi. The importance is the service to Hashem not how we serve Him. Some emphasize Torah (litvak) others Avodah (chosid) and the women Gemilas Chasodim. All three are equal since their gematria is the same תורה, יראת
גמילות חסדים.Eli Y, Tosfas in Baba Metzia 59:2 starts לא בשמים הוא, can be explained that the Bas Kol revealed that what it says אחרי רבים להטעות, we go after the majority, which can mean either in quantity or quality , is in quantity.
A student wanted a letter of acknowledgement of his learning abilities. The rebbe signed it on the bottom of the page. He said it says, מדבר שקר תרחק.
It says in the Torah וישמן ישורין ויבעט when the people ( cows) become fat (rich) they kick out (kick over the milk) they forget who made them rich. They think כחי ואוצם ידי עשה לי את החיל הזה through my strength and abilities I became fat or rich.
תן לחכם ויחכם עוד Eli Y – Tosfas in Baba Metzia by the תנור של עכנאי explains that we needed the Bas Kol by Beis Hillel even though they were in majority because the Beis Shammai is sharper explains why we don’t understand
currently the Beis Shammai. Also currently we can’t take their stringencies.The problem is how can you misread it when a person with a siyan was lit up and not with a shiyan?
iacisrmma – you are right I looked it up it is Sara. I don’t know where I got my pshat.
Eli Y – Let me explain why in the world to come we pasken like the Beis Shammai what happens to the majority view? In the world to come we will come to higher understanding as currently don’t understand the view of Shammai as Rabbi Eliezer, Rabbi Shimon etc. but once we come to understand the majority will pasken like Beis Shammai. Currently the Beis Hillel is being helped by the Beis Shammai to arrive to the truth so they are also praiseworthy. The Ran in the Droshas explains your predicament, how can they both be true when sometimes they have opposite views. Once the Torah was given down to earth we must understand it with human understanding not heavenly understanding..
GAON, We say in birchas kohanim to nullify the dream in sixty. The Taamei Haminhogim explains that a dream is one sixtieth in sanctity and the kohanim at the duchenen are completely holy so we want to nullify the dream in sixty. It says the dream becomes true according to the interpreter. We see what you are saying is true.
NC, isn’t it funny where the shochet doesn’t eat from his own shechita?
I will repeat what I wrote somewhere else:
It doesn’t matter what type of a chosid you are or if you are a chosid at all as long that you want to create nachas ruach to Hashem with your service. They are all different ways to arrive to the same thing. The importance is not the means but the end,
Doesn’t say that the Beis Shamay and Beis Hillel argued but that they didn’t hold back from intermarrying. It says that an argument lashem shomaim stands. Asks the Midrash Samuel who wants it to stand? But he brings an exploration from the Rambam why by life and death judgements if all twenty three said he is guilty, he went out innocent. We need defenders. Otherwise, they can all make the same mistake. The Beis Shamai by having a different view helped the Beis Hillel arrive to the truth by eliminating tunnel vision. This why because of their humility allowed the Beis Shamay to precede them hearing their view first in order that before they make up their mind, they wanted to to here another view,