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The common denominators throughout the bais yaakov system are their rule books and their ideal end products. Uniform, no talking to boys, tznius, good middos, and being taught the majority of your school subjects by Rabbis and rebbitzins.
Sounds like any other Catholic school, except that I am decently sure that most, if not all (secular) subjects are taught by MRS’s. The Hebrew principal is a MRS, not a Rebbitzen. I can’t speak for the Hebrew teachers, but I imagine that it is a mix.
P.S. I assume you are talking about the high school and not the elementry school.
Ms. Purple is correct, TAG is definitely a BY.
I have come to the conclusion that TAG is a BY wannabe, but will never get there. The strongest proponent of the BY-like system there is leaving.
TAG is for sure a Bais Yaakov, but I know girls who went there that were not so BY, one girl I know went because they had really good teachers, but she has an iphone and stuff like that, she also did not cover her legs all the time.
That begs the question. What makes TAG a BY?
I have a close friend who went there for a year and then switched to SKA because even though the school is her family’s hashkafa, it was not exactly hers and she needed to be in a warmer environment, Baruch Hashem, she loves SKA, but I still consider her a bais yaakov girl.
If it was not for their rules about the internet and wearing color, i could see myself having gone there as a student last year.
There are rules in TAG regarding internet and wearing “color”?
What if a kid whose parents doesn’t own a car (or have insurance) drives someone elses car and gets into an accident?
It depends. If the owner has insurance and the child who is not a “Family member” has reasonable belief that the named insured would allow the insured to drive it (for example, a nephew who is in for the weekend), then they would be covered under the auto. However, if there is no “reasonable belief” (for example, a frat buddy (or yeshiva bochur) “borrowing” the auto of a student who is insured under his/her parents’ policy), then they could be denied coverage. They may still be covered for liability up to the state’s FR limits (depending on the state and court. See Progressive Northern Insurance Company v. Concord General Mutual Insurance Company as an example of the complexity). I do not know if they could be arrested for driving without insurance, but I doubt it.
(once again, this is not a legal opinion).
I never advised my carrier whenever my kids got a license. When they found out (usually after an accident) they then raised my premium.
As I said earlier:
As an additional point, if your son drives someone elses car, he may not be covered either unless the named insured (parent or spouse) allows them to drive on an occasional basis. If your son’s friend allows him to drive an auto under his parents’ policy, their auto insurer is within their rights to deny coverage (reasonable belief exclusion).
For instance, in NYS you cannot waive or remove the personal injury protection part of the coverage.
There is a world outside NYS (and Michigan). In NJ & PA, there are multiple tort options that can save an insured money in exchange for limiting tort rights. In NJ as well, you can buy more or less personal injury protection (PIP). Even in NY, you can add a PIP deductible, and drop optional PIP (which does exist).
But, at least in NYS, the company could only do that prospectively, meaning that they have to give advance notice before the cancellation or non-renewal can go into effect.
See note above. In general, case law does agree, with the exceptions that I mentioned earlier regarding fraud and/or misrepresentation. However, once again, it does not mean that the insurer will not try to deny your claim (and do you really want to go to court?)
GEICO (which is one of the major insurance companies) doesn’t penalize you if the kid is away from home (e.g. in Israel).
The problem here is that his son is learning in Lakewood (e.g.), and within 100 Miles of home. No company that I am aware of includes children that are overseas as operators.
The standard Auto policy will cover your “Family Member” (although there are some that will not), even if they are not a known operator. However, being that all operators are supposed to be on the “declarations” page, if someone “forgot” to add an operator, that operator may be denied (especially if there is a large claim) if they were operating the vehicle at the time. Furthermore, if the company asks for the names of all operators and there is an omission, that would be fraud and the company would probably deny your claim.
As an additional point, if your son drives someone elses car, he may not be covered either unless the named insured (parent or spouse) allows them to drive on an occasional basis. If your son’s friend allows him to drive an auto under his parents’ policy, their auto insurer is within their rights to deny coverage (reasonable belief exclusion).
My suggestion to you is to speak to your agent about placing your child on as a “non principal operator”, which can significantly lower his premium.
(Let me note that none of this should be construed as legal advice).
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I’m going to stick my two cents in here:
So why when a Kehilla gets together to make community standards and one rov decides the standards are too leninent and tells people not to eat from the Kehilla hasghcha, He is considered a Tzadik
Why don’t you ask him?
Well, I did. The purpose is to keep others informed. For example, take starkist tuna. At one point, the Vaad of the 5T would note on their Hashgacha if they were using this Kula. Yashan, Pas Yisroel, Cholov Yisroel (yes, the Vaad is not Machmir on Cholov Yisroel, as in Toddy’s), open on shabbos (as in Dunkin Doughnuts), etc. When the Vaad stopped noting these (rather critical) items in their Hashgacha, this Rov did some of his own investigation and found out what each establishment used. It evolved into the current list, in which there are certain minimum standards over what the Vaad holds of. The Rov will be the first to tell you the Vaad is Kosher, but he has a personal Achraus to his Kehila (which most do not use the list), and offers the opportunity to allow them to know what the issues are. He does not charge a penny to be on the list, and moves establishments on and off based on new information & his own checks. The Vaad can not act as quickly (for whatever reason). Rabbi Eisen, who is the head Moshgiach of the Vaad of the 5T, is very happy with this Rov’s list. Otherwise, when asked where you can eat, R’ Eisen would be unable to respond regarding each place’s Kulas. He now simply responds to look at the list.
Others (J&W22) have pointed out that the Rov will tell you what the issues are in a non list establishment (for example, the hot dog buns are not Pas Yisroel), and allow you to make the choice to eat there or not. He will never say it is not Kosher.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/is-the-vaad-the-mafia/page/2#post-329534
When I had my daughter, I made a siyum on Masechta Kiddushin, as Segulah for my daughter finding a shidduch (at the right time, of course).
And yes, I did invite others, and said Kaddesh (not Kiddush).
Sing Shalom Alechem only once, and not Aishes Chayil:
Minhug Hungry (or maybe Austria).
A friend with weed is a friend indeed!
A Movado Bangle.
Go to your nearest Movado Outlet Store (if you live in NYC, that would be Woodbury Commons). They will have them in your range (a regular store will not). You might also be able to find one on a discounted watch website, but the Outlet store will include papers & warranty.
Personally, I would like to know what Jewish&Working22 thinks about the question.
I had a girl start singing in the car on the way home from a date!
We did not get engaged.
see: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/do-we-really-mean-it
the name is an abbreviation (why is that word so long?!).
SammyGol, Bogen & Joseph:
You would very surprised which Rov told me that you can pick and choose the rav who you ask individual questions, as long as you don’t re-ask a question. This is even if you know the rav who you ask is a bigger maykil than your usual rav.
He quoted this from his Rebbe, whose last name is the same as one of the biggest G’Virim in the Frum world, V’Hamayvin Yavin. :-0 (who is also a famous Rosh HaYeshiva)
Yup, him.
Svorah takes all.
jewishfeminist02:
On a similar vein, I know many girls who refuse to go out on dates with the typical yeshivish guy, even though they themselves are yeshivish. The reason being that they feel they will look down at their husbands, as the girls have schooling and jobs, and they learn, do chessed and know Halacha.
Most Yeshivish boys MAY have one of these, if they are “accomplished”.
Perhaps the girls want to make sure the guys know something, and aren’t just being Yoshev in Yeshiva?
nameless:
Sure she didn’t go to Midreshet Lindenbaum? 🙂
A man without a plan is not a man.
A shadchan with the initials TJ
SJSinNYC
I believe Hashkafa has women as inherently superior over men (See perushim on Shelo Asani Esha)
The torah is pro-feminist.
“In fact, kollel society has created a really feminist base without meaning to. The WOMEN are the ones supporting the family. Sounds feminist to me :-)”
Like this point, and very true.
send kids out and spend time with him.
charliehall:
There are very big problems that can happen (in halachic terms, let alone social) when someone marries someone else to whom they are not attracted.
Perhaps blame the boys for being attacted to slim ladies, but do not ask them to marry someone with whom they will not be attracted to. It will only cause problems in the future.
First Mazel tov!
As a smartcookie, you should bake something that begins with a C.
Now, what begins with the letter C?
(break into song and dance, with Blue Googly Eyed Monster)
To answer the question of where..
How about:
Austria
Britain
Columbia (family of mine ran there for WWII)
Denmark
Eretz Yisroel
Far Away
Greenland
The Himalayas
Israel (yes, deserves double mention)
Japan
Kathamandu, Nepal
Lisbon, Spain
A Midbar (like the Rambam)
New Zealand
Ontario
Peru
Queensland, Australia
Romania
South Africa
Thailand
Uraguay
Vietnam
Wales
Xiamen, China
Yakutsk (as in the Risk place, in Siberia, Russia)
Zurich, Switzerland
All easier to access with a passport.
Still part of the Galus Jew. 😉
GMAB:
“We learn from history that we learn nothing from history.”
George Bernard Shaw
Perhaps you should be worried:
“Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”
George Santayana
(Guess guys names George quote well 😉
chalish:
You include many more people than you think, once all 4 Chalakim of Shulchan Aruch are taken into account (and looks are not), not just Orach Chaim or Yoreh Dayah 🙁
You mean you have never heard of the Crown Heights riots in 1991?
Dinkins was the mayor of NYC at the time.
Give Me a Break
That’s what they said about Dinkins. Imagine that on a national scale.
Not saying it will happen, but that’s the Galus Jew in me.
Yanky55:
Crown Heights.
Just make sure you have your Ducats (or Gold Marks) ready to bribe the border guards. Maple Leafs or Philharmonics will also work.
Eric: If you are serious, you probably need an M60 or a Gatling. Shotguns don’t work against angry mobs screaming “Kill the Jew!”
Toras Moshe:
Now, — my dear Rabbi, — the internet, — it is Assur. ;-(
Go read Slifkin. Or study K-Theory. Don’t promote Kanoius. Too much acid involved, and if its not stopped, who knows who will be next 🙁
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out –
because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out –
because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out –
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me – and there was no one left to speak for me.
US Holocaust Memorial
Have a couple of funds to which you always give (Tomchai Shabbos is for food and a major priority, also local causes). All the other “Tzedaka” letters are not opened and get filed directly into the circular filing cabinet 🙂
This way they don’t back up.
Give Me a Break:
I have seen many people on this forum insult other’s minhagim.
Just because they are different doesn’t mean they are wrong. We believe in diversity (within the confines of Halacha, as per YOUR OWN LOR (or non local OR)), which makes us stronger (seperate path for each Shevet by the Yam). Diversity includes other peoples Minhagim, even if we don’t understand them. (can’t understand wearing a furry hat when its 40 Cel. outside, but I won’t make fun of those who do):-|
May we all be Zoche to Ahavas Chinam 🙂
Normally, the moderator would just not post something she/he felt was wrong. Here he/she made a point that diversity within Halacha and opposing viewpoints within Halacha are not to be made fun of (discussed yes, but not ridiculed) on his/her site.
About Time.
P.S. I have no idea what was said, and can not answer whether it was correct to take it down.
Went to a shiur on this.
Meat for Simcha is Shlamim (Korban) specific. If it is not a Korban, then there is no mitzva of eating meat.
Simcha these days is:
Men: Wine
Women: Clothes (Husband MUST provide)
Kids: Candy
There may be minor reasons to eat meat on Yom Tov, but none of them REQUIRE meat-eating.
If one doesn’t want to eat meat in this day and age, it is logical for a number of reasons:
1: Meat is expensive 🙂 Tuition is more important.
2: Easy to get fat on meat 🙁
3: Don’t trust Agri/Alle/other butchers
4: Wastes energy, and causes more fossil fuel to be bought, enriching Iran.
There are many others.
I have nothing good to say about PETA, so I will remain silent. 😐
Note to moderator:
About time.
No need to match anything, since boys can’t do it anyway! That way they don’t go out looking like they are colorblind 🙂
Feif Un: You are a boi
intellegent: you are a Girl
You will not agree on the issue of Taava. You are just too different (can it be any more obvious?)
(somewhat serious post)
Teenager’s point is if there is a Mutar way for guys and girls to Hang, they will (possibly) not do so in the back seats of cars or skating rinks (which leads to Baaaad “stuff”).
The worry is if it has a “Hashgacha”, those who would not have anything to do with the opposite gender may think its OK. I would go for supervised, following Halacha, but no “hashgacha”. That way there is “plausable deniability”. 🙂
Also, no-one would fundraise for the program, so you would have to find a sponsor who understands what is going on and is willing to pay for it (also not easy).
Good luck.
When I first saw this thread I thought it was some sort of joke. Now that I see you are serious…
“A national anthem is a generally patriotic musical composition that evokes and eulogizes the history, traditions and struggles of its people, recognized either by a nation’s government as the official national song, or by convention through use by the people.” (Wikipedia)
As such, I vote for “Lulay Torascha”. Alt: “Shir Hama’alos Beshuv Hashem es Shivas Tziyon”. 🙂
They evoke our struggle and hope.
(Shema is a statement of fact, and does not follow the guidelines)
Anon:
William Jennings Bryan was the lawyer at the Scopes Trial (25 years after he had last run for office!) He was also a strong speaker on the need for morality, even as a Democrat.
And at this point (if he were alive today), he would have more experience than all of the other candidates combined.
That is not to say not to vote democrat, if you would like to do so.
I happen to (in general terms) like Joe Biden, and think he has a good plan for Iraq.
(Just wait if there is a partition plan for the Arabs, and see what happens)…
And we get out, and stop wasting money and soldiers on stopping the sides from killing each other.
Give Me a Break:
Don’t you mean “what right do you have not to vote for the Democrat?”
You are right. We should cancel the election, and hail King Obama and his Official Crier, the Huffington Post. 🙂
After all, you, the Elite, know better what is “good for the country” than the people. Next thing you know, only people with property will have a say 🙂
Perhaps people think McCain is better for the country? Maybe morality makes a better country? Maybe supporting Democracy is good for the country? Perhaps even supporting the Jewish state is good for the country.
Oops, you have already decided for all of us that it is not.
William Jennings Bryan
One of the greatest Americans in politics ever. 🙂
SomeoneLikeYou:
Exactly the point.
torahpal:
Expect the courts to get involved. Expect (eventually) to have to let in Arabs and Jews for J. Its part of taking their tax money 🙂
A Big Fat Yosher Koach to Yoshi 🙂
As no-one (except the poster, who is long gone) is telling anyone else what they should be doing, agree with everyone that for practical application of any halacha, one should ask their LOR.
LeiderLeider…
I only try to get a smile 🙂
BTW, is the screen name a reference to Schubert?
Nameless: The name states what I feel about some of the posts here. I am just trying to broaden my view of the current frum olam by hearing from both sides, and sometimes try to inject some humor into what denegrates into a screaming match. I also don’t want people comming over during davening to talk about my post! 🙂
Once (Shidduch Crisis) (may be more) I saw the poster leading themselves into a bad situation, and had to say something serious.
BTW Joseph, I am still waiting for your response on that post. And your message here is why pizzas shouldn’t tell Jokes! 🙂
anon:
Come to think of it, there is also the Shach (who was supported by his father-in-law, the Bach (not J.S. :-). You are correct that there are exceptions, but Chazal warn about those who marry for money (I’m sure Joseph, from whom I am still waiting for a response, can provide the Mekor)
Re yiddishemishpacha:
“I will daven that you get the proper guidance before you waste precious years waiting out for Mr. Perfect.”
I’m worried (as I have seen happen) that she will not settle in the end and never get married, always waiting for Mr. Perfect (C”V). Please, if you are reading this, stretch your mind a little and try to find your bashert, not Mr. Perfect.
Joseph:
Please explain what is off base? I guess it is possible that you found something cheaper in Marshalls than in SYMS 🙂
Shoshana Miriam Bas Sorel:
Let me preface that I hate to post this. I only like to post happy things, but I feel a reality check is needed. :-/
I wish you the best of luck finding a shidduch. Unfortunately, I suspect you will still be waiting (C”V, I truly hope I am wrong) when you will come to compromise on something and only then find your zivug. True learning boys are either “Harry” (who are serious but not quite yeshivish, and may have gone to college), looking for money (with the hechsher of their Rosh Yeshiva, who would hate for them to leave learning after 5-10 years) or looking for Yichus. No fault of yours, but saving from the age of 13 (unless you have a trust fund) does not compare to a sucessful businessman who is serious about supporting his daughter, and there (as you have learned) are very few real learners out there, who would be willing to sacrifice for their learning. The best learners (which you are rightfully looking for) have always married the rich mans daughter (and nothing came of them) or the rosh yeshiva’s daughter (and possibly became a gadol).
If you are serious, then from your discription of what you are looking for you may want to date chofetz chaim guys, and you should have job skills that are exportable to Israel. You will also want to look for someone who is mistapek bemuat and happy to do so, as you will need it (and start shopping at SYMS, not Marshalls. Better selection and cheaper prices during BASH :-).
I wish you only Hatzlocha.
Re Nameless: Agreed, but she wants to marry someone who will go into Kiruv, not business.