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Moshiach will be a Misnaged. Why?
Because if he’s a chossid then the misnagdim won’t accept him but if he’s a misnaged the chassidim will still accept him as long as he finally comesIt’s known in lubavitch that the lubavitcher rebbe can’t be Moshiach because Moshiach will be someone that’s accepted by all Jews and since on the one hand there are those who if in the end it turns out that the lubavitcher rebbe actually ends up being Moshiach they wouldn’t accept him and would rather that moshiach not come instead and on the other hand lubavitchers will accept anyone that ends up being Moshiach as long as he comes already so in the end the lubavitcher rebbe can’t be Moshiach
@gershig32 the most known source for this in lubavitch seforim is the mammor of v’ata titzaveh where the lubavitcher rebbe explains why the Jews brought the oil to Moshe and not to Aharon even though aharon was the one who lit the menorah
in short the Jews lift up Moshe through the oil they bring him and with this Moshe lifts up the Jews so they end up helping each other and this applies to the “moshe” in every generation including mordechai hatzadik in his time and in this time it’s your rebbe or godal that you listen to and follow
Similarly there’s the story of the Baal shem tov he used to daven for a long time while his chassidim would finish and wait for him one time he took a really long time davening so they went out to go eat something and when they came back they were surprised that he was finished and waiting for them so he told them the moshel of the hunter who finds a rare bird in a tree and he stands on the shoulders of a few people to reach it and if those people decide to walk away then he’ll fall down…
In general there’s a concept these days that we’re the lowest generation but we’ll bring Moshiach because we’re on the shoulders of all the previous generations so in a way we’re higher (avraham fried song (on giants shoulders)As a lubavitcher who believes the rebbe can still be Moshiach (and I don’t believe anyone, including the rebbe, is Moshiach until Moshiach actually comes) I have nothing against people who respectfully disagree but when you start bashing my rebbe don’t be surprised when you start being bashed also
Defend chabad: it used to happen only rarely but in the last few years they’ve started posted a lot more articles against different groups in crown heights, the bais din, bais rivka, oholei Torah etc. They don’t really write against other communities that much it’s mainly crown heights
regarding the specific example I mentioned I read both articles and when they posted the 2nd one about how Lakewood is bad, I tried posting a link to the 1st article about crown heights being bad but they didn’t let it through.
P.s. crownheights.info also posts the same articles as collive.com about different letters from the crown heights bais din and teachers not getting paid etc. But they don’t give their personal opinion they just post the facts with some details unlike mica sofer/collive which gives her personal opinion which is usually slanted against whichever group the article is discussingDefend chabad. I agree with everything you wrote besides collive, they have a history of bashing people especially the crown heights rabbonim and mica sofer the head of collive doesn’t care what anyone has to say for example any time there’s a controversy with the rabbonim she puts up an article bashing them another example is when one of her relatives moved from crown heights to Lakewood so they wrote an article bashing crown heights schools and Jewish landlords etc. And writing how great Lakewood is and then several months later when they realized that most schools wouldn’t accept them because as part of their PR for their job as wedding photographers they had Instagram and posted pictures of the girls on it and the schools have higher acceptance standards so they moved back to crown heights and wrote a whole article about how bad Lakewood is and in either article they didn’t let anyone post comments criticizing them
In short there’s a reason why chabad rabbonim came out against collive and not any other chabad news sites
There is no hint in any of the books that Dumbledore is gay it was only added recently so that the LGBT+ and SJWs etc. Won’t go crazy that everyone in the book is normal
There are strong hints of christianity throughout the books especially towards the end for example harry dies and comes back and saves everyone (pretty obvious what that’s referring to) and there’s sentences in the books which are word for word copies of sentences in different books of the fake testament
the psychologist Jordan peterson who says that he doesn’t believe in any religion likes to talk about the connection between harry potter and ChristianityDuring the time of The first chabad rebbe the tsarist Russian government started letting a few people travel through the Russian polish border for business and many Jews started moving to Russia which didn’t have many Jewish communities and the Jews that moved there were known not to be so religious so the rebbe used to send his chassidim to travel through Russia during their business travels and help increase the yiddishkeit of these Jews and establish shuls mikvaos etc. During their travels (the most famous probably being hillel paritcher who ended up moving there) they were so successful that even one of the biggest misnagdim of the day (the real original ones that were truly suspicious of chassidus not the ones that just hate chabad for no reason like these days) by the name of reb zundel wolf who took part in the murder of 4 chassidim in szventzian in 5541 (1781), after he moved to Russia and saw that everything said about chassidus generally and chabad specifically was loshon horah he wrote a letter to his teacher the gra asking him for a way to do teshuva for being involved in the murder of the 4 Chassidim and ended off his letter to the gra saying “no one knows his last day will be and when they stand before the heavenly court to be judged the murder of these 4 people will be blamed on the council of vilna and its bais din for arranging the murders. From the zichronos of the previous lubavitcher rebbe the rayatz
So yes lubavitch was involved in kiruv from the start
@mods there’s no bashing anyone in here so perhaps you can let it through?
I’m not sure if this is accurate but I’ve heard that when clean shaven Chassidishe bachurim/yungerman would visit him asking for a Bracha he would demand to know why they don’t have a beard since according to tzemach tzedek and other Chassidishe poskim that they follow, hold that having a beard is min HaTorah. When litvishe bachurim/yungerman would ask for a Bracha he would tell them that a segula for a Bracha is to start growing a beard
@Lit while I disagree with @defendchabad that the moderators job is to fact check everything posted I do think that if they’re going to let through all the nasty comments bashing chabad (and I mean specifically the comments bashing chabad not the nicely worded ones that simply disagree with chabad) they should also let through all the nasty comments bashing litvish (or at least the nicely worded ones for that matter that they don’t let through for some reason)
In short it should go both ways if you let people argue against chabad then let people defend them also and if you let people bash chabad then let people bash litvish alsono matter how “nicely” you word it we do not post denigrating comments on gedolim or deifying comments directed towards humans
@Joseph the one mentioned in rashi on the posuk in shemos perek yud tes passuk gimmel
by hundreds of failed outposts do you mean the places where they help irreligious Jews become religious jews and help the o.t.d. sons and daughters of different litvishe roshei yeshiva and rabbonim become frum again and stop doing drugs or are you referring to something else? (As a lubavitcher with several relatives that work as chaplains in the prison system I know what I’m talking about)
Everyone hates chabad until it’s their own child that runs off to a 3rd world country to marry a goy or shmad and the only frum person within an hour drive is a lubavitcher who can try to convince them out of it then suddenly they love chabad
If you want more info on how many people including children of “gedolim” chabad has helped get off drugs etc. Try speaking to chabad of salt lake city Utah which has one of the biggest drug rehab centers in the country
P.s. on the topic of Moshiach I saw a great line recently I think it was in ami or mishpacha don’t remember exactly which one “you don’t have to be chabad to want Moshiach but you have to want Moshiach to be a Frum yid”Apparently the censors don’t like when I write sad truths about r. schach and r. kotler but they don’t mind if anyone makes fun of lubavitch or the lubavitcher rebbe so I’ll try this 1 last time
As anyusername already explained most of it so I’ll try to summarize
The rebbe never responded to personal insults from anyone he only responded to the insults that affected large groups of Jews for example the irreligious on the kibbutzim that r. shach called non Jews or in the case of the previous lubavitcher rebbe r. Kotler refusing to give food to the lubavitcher bachurim in Shanghai since he didn’t consider them bnai Torah and causing 2 of the bachurim to die of hunger for lack of food
As a side point halacha says הרב שמחל על כבודו כבודו מחול it also says (sorry I don’t remember the exact Hebrew phrase) that a talmid can’t be מוחל on his teachers behalf so even though the rebbe will never respond to the personal insults, the chassidim will so if you call the rebbe “the man sitting in Brooklyn and driving the whole world crazy” or after his stroke you say that you’ll say tehhilim that he has a refuah shleima physically and mentally (implying that you think he’s mentally ill) don’t get surprised when chassidim start hating you and making up things about you like saying (to use anyusernames example) that you’re mibnei banav shel Haman limdu torah bebnei brak.