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I’ll share a real interesting story (though I don’t know the Psak).
2 Conversos got married (no Jewish wedding) in a Christian ceremony in a church. The Priest was a Converso (doesn’t really matter). Some of the guests were also Conversos. The wife (around 20 years old) heard you could live openly as a Jew in N. Africa so she went there. Meanwhile the husband decided he liked his current life as a Christian so he stayed in Spain & would not give a Get.
The question posed to the Rabbanim was, “Did this Christian ceremony witnessed by Conversos count as a valid Kidushin?”
This had very serious consequences. If they said it was valid she’s a 20 year old Agunah. But if they say it wasn’t valid when it was her children would be Mamzerim.
As my Rabbi teaches, if you want to see what Judaism looked like during a certain time period look what kind of Shailos were being asked.What an amazing way to talk up a Sukkah open to the public. I’m sure children would absolutely choose going to a community Sukkah instead of six flags. Mi Kaamcha Yisroel!
So you’re ok with the IDF & US Military shutting down because a Gezeira is a Gezeira?
p.s. If you’re going to say no because we need to do our “Histadlush” how is bringing a gun to Shul any different?Yechiell,
It was a little joke (not to downplay the issue) but the wording of “Bring your guns to Shul…” to me sounded like something a pro baseball team would use to attract fans & sounded even funnier (to me) if Shuls also ran “promo” davenings.
It’s kinda Mel Brooks humor (like the Yiddish speaking Indian Chief in Blazing Saddles). You either appreciate it or you don’t.This sounds like an interesting promotion. In my Shul we run similar promotions.
Shabbos Bereshis we give out mini-globes (or maps for flat earthers)
“Purim Shabbos” where the laypeople shush the Ruv & Gabbai during leining
“Shidduch Shabbos” where single women throw candy over the Mechitza & whichever single man it hits must take them on a date.
If our numbers are correct (which they are) we see a 37% increase in attendance for these Shabbosim & a 12% increase in attendance overall.
p.s. If anyone would like help setting up these programs at their Shul, feel free to contact me.I’ll always remember at my Yeshiva in Israel of about 30 guys an American Kollel guy would put up a sign “Please come for any Yom Tov meal (including the 2nd day)”
Even though he didn’t keep the 2nd day because he permanently lived in Israel he still made sure the American Buchrim had a Y”T atmosphere on the 2nd day.Pekak,
As I stated, “When I was YOUNG & NAIVE”
Also, for many jobs which one can’t be paid we don’t pay them for the job we pay them the money they “Lost” by not being able to work a regular job due to being involved in klei kodesh.When I was young & naive (I believe Reb Moshe wanted no Kosher kidushin with the Non-Frum to avoid issues with Gittim & Mamzerim) my friend & I would go to a Reform Shul to be aydim. Usually it was the grandparents who insisted on an Orthodox ceremony. The Reform Rabbi (who was from the older generation & actually knew what he was doing) the bride & groom & me & my friend would meet in the Rabbis office where the groom said Harei At & put the ring on her finger & my friend & i would sign the Kesubah. This was the 80’s & we made a quick $10 or $20 for a few minutes work. We left & the Rabbi would perform a Reform wedding in the sanctuary.
As one Rabbi so perfectly put it, “We have the same problems as the outside world except our closets are darker & our locks stronger.”
A French Catholic Priest, a German Lutheran Minister & a Rabbi were lost in the desert.
The Priest said, “I’m so thirsty I must have wine.”
The Minister said, “I’m so thirsty I must have a beer.”
The Rabbi said, “I’m so thirsty I must have Diabetes.”Goldilocks,
He went through a rough patch as a Bochur & having lost control he went into a restaurant & ordered an entire pig.
Just as it was served his R’Y walked by & saw what was going on.
His Rosh said, “What’s going on?”
The Bochur pointed to the pigs mouth & said, “Rebbe, this is the most amazing restaurant. You order an apple & this is how they serve it.”A priest asks a Rabbi, “How come you don’t eat ham?”
The Rabbi answers, “It’s against my religion. How come you don’t date girls?”
The priest says, “It’s against my religion.”
& the Rabbi says, “You should try it. It’s better than ham.”You can find whatever you want in Jewish, Christian or Islamic texts. It’s all about interpretation.
We are a strange people. So smart in some areas yet so dumb in others.
In America, 87% of Jews are not Torah observant but we assume 100% of Christians & Muslims follow the strictest interpretations.
It’s common knowledge that alcohol is banned in Islam & yet you can find liquor stores in Ramallah, Jordan & elsewhere in Muslim countries. We know Islam requires women to cover their hair yet in Iran the women are fighting to end it.
Just like we have Orthodox, Conservative & Reform Jews the Christians & Muslims have the same thing.The biggest problem is the kids enjoy being in the “Army”
Studies confirm that boys who grew up with color war are more likely to join the Tzioni Army (Hashem Yirachem). A Frum boy in the clutches of the Evil Atheist Tzionim has very little chance of staying Frum. We need to end color war to keep our children from going down the path of Evil, Atheism, & Zionism.I’m very open minded & many of the most irreverent things don’t bother me. But even I found this to be in very poor taste
Considering the risks involved (kids thrown out of school, banned from Shul, excommunication, no Shidduch, etc) is it really worth it?
A close friends had his kids expelled from their schools after a photo surfaced from 7 years ago of him on vacation, out of town, in the summer, on a very hot day, hiking a difficult trail wearing a short-sleeve blue shirt.This is truly disgusting.
Baruch Hashem I grew up in a Yeshiva community where there was zero bashing or attacking of the MO, Conservative, or Reform. No, we didn’t think the Reform way was legitimate but we focused on & appreciated their positives like Tsedaka, Chesed & the Honor & respect they brought to the Jewish people (top neurosurgeons). There is no question the Frum community is better off by having these people provide assistance & support.
What exactly is the point of this? The OP seems like an immature kid who likes to publicly stir up controversy or has such low self-esteem that he raises himself up by putting others down. This is not the Torah way.Never take advice about money (or anything else) from someone that has nothing to lose if wrong.
I’ve never been but a Chasidish friend went for Shabbos & said it was awesome.
Like many of our ancestors you should become a Shepherd. While the animals are grazing in the field you can sit & learn.
Start a multi level marketing business & harass your relatives, neighbors and friends to join.
This post has way to many conspiracy theories to wrap my head around. Are the prison uniforms purposely made of shatnez as well? Do they give the job of checking for bugs to a prisoner with poor eyesight?
I believe gathering girls together to recite Tehillim & hear divrei chizuk with girls publicly adopting new tsnius Chumros would draw a large crowd.
The JCC in Baltimore runs Sat. night programs for Frum teenage girls. Perhaps if that’s not going on where you live then someone could start a program.
In the school where I’m from 80% of the kids are Right wing MO & Yeshivish Modern. The other 20% is centrist MO, very Yeshivish & Chasidish.
With the way the student population has (controlled) diversity there is no gap because MO, Yeshivish & Chasidish kids grow up together so when they’re adults the connections are already there.Yser,
A 22 usually does not have enough stopping power to end the threat. I don’t like a lot of recoil so I have a full size 9mm loaded with +P Hollow points in the standard 17rd mag. I grab my gun & a mag & I have 35rds (17+17+1 in the chamber) with only 1 reload. I hope I would never need that many rounds but since I’m a law abiding citizen why shouldn’t I be allowed to have what makes me feel more secure?I own 4 different types of guns. All for different uses. If I’m not going to kill anyone what difference does it make if I own 1 or 4 guns so I have the best option available to defend myself if needed?
Ct, so you want to take away people’s ability to defend themselves? Yeah, that’ll end well.
The Matzah with the longest Mesorah is soft so it does not crack.
How is this reaching the non observant?
Is a Yeshivish guy who never leaves the Bais Medrash hosting a Reform/Secular Jew a good idea?Hailed by who? Other leftists no different than how it works in the Haredi world?
I was taught in Camp Gan Israel that Einstein would send his difficult problems he couldn’t solve to the Rebbe who would solve them in the Bais Hakesei in just a few minutes & send back the answer.
My friend with experience in this area told me what he found to be successful was giving these troubled teens cassette tapes of shiurim. Listening to Divrei Chizuk from HaRav Brudny about not watching the Super Bowl or learning HaRav Avigdor Miller’s Hashkafa about the importance of not having anything to do with tNon-Frum or Non-Jewish ways often has a positive affect.
Sadly these boys never developed a geshmak for learning Gemara so they fill their lives with emptiness. Yeshiva Rebbeim should “Hang out” at the “Hang outs” offering to take the boys to a Bais Medrash to learn Torah. When these boys see the beauty & pleasure of shteiging they’ll give up their destructive ways.
Ujm,
The exact same thing was said about Chasidism even long after it was firmly established.Akuperma,
Are you still spewing that decades old drivel? Those days are long gone. All the “Zionists” want is for the Charedim to pull their own weight & contribute their fair share for the betterment of all of Israel.Lakewhut,
The Chasidim take over the towns….
& you wonder why people hate us?During Covid my son’s Rebbe gave his shiur by Telegraph so all the kids would be able to participate.
Proud to say the BY girls here engage in the same Tikkun Olam projects as the Reform & sometimes they do it together.
Indefensible borders from who? Lebanon, Syria, Jordan & Egypt have neither the will nor capability to go to war with Israel. The Gulf States have no interest in war with Israel. The Palestinians with some automatic rifles & crude rockets are a non threat. The only threat is Iran 1,100 miles away giving Israel plenty of time to react before they get near Israel (& truth be told Iran really has no interest in a war with Israel.)
This is what bothers people about Israel (& Jews). Israel is the undeniable Superpower in the region where this time instead of a 6 day war it’d be max a 3 day war with a total victory for Israel. Yet we’re crying to the world like Israel is on the verge of being destroyed & people resent that.I totally agree. I was impressed when a swastika was found here that the Jews interviewed all play it down. One said, “I wasn’t scared or anything there’s obviously something wrong in this person’s heart & what can I do to help them.” That’s a great way to handle it.
At the same time when I tell people the same thing you say I’m called an “Antisemite” or a a “Self-hating” Jew.The difference between us & them.
Goy: I’m gonna ride that angry bull & show him who is boss.
Yid: Why would you ride the bull? You could get hurt & besides does it matter if the bull thinks he’s the boss?When will HaRav HaGaon Morenu V’Rabbenu Donald Trump reveal himself as Moshiach so we can end all these tsaros?
We are taught every man in Europe was a Talmid Chochem who finished Mishnayos by 8 & a Siyum on Shas at his Bar Mitzvah. The truth is most men could read Hebrew block print & read & write in Yiddish. They could not read Rashi script. They’d have a hard time learning Chumash (without Rashi) bchavrusah. The Ein Yaakov was so beloved especially to the laborers & others who never had the chance to learn Gemarah because they left Cheder before Gemarah was taught to help feed the family.
We love to lie about the past (every culture does it) but every 25 year old in Kollel would be by far the most learned man in most towns back then.We are taught every man in Europe was a Talmid Chochem who finished Mishnayos by 8 & a Siyum on Shas at his Bar Mitzvah. The truth is most men could read Hebrew block print & read & write in Yiddish. They could not read Rashi script. They’d have a hard time learning Chumash (without Rashi) bchavrusah. The Ein Yaakov was so beloved especially to the laborers & others who never had the chance to learn Gemarah because they left Cheder before Gemarah was taught to help feed the family.
My Rabbi. Most are my wife’s coworkers & not showing up wouldn’t be helpful.
If you came to the not Frum Bat Mitzvahs I attend you wouldn’t be complaining. Most of the dresses don’t have enough material to make a Shpitzel.
Right writer,
That’s what I’m explaining. It didn’t happen. There was a rare typo but no Americanization by officials. After, in America some Jews changed their names but not at Ellis island.
People think just a few years back people were idiots but I assure you they weren’t. Everyone getting on a boat to America had to present their paperwork to the shipping line where it was recorded exactly as the documents said. On arrival at Ellis island the officials took the ships record to use. There were 9 Yiddish speaking employees (not officials) whose sole job was to go up & down the line helping Jews be ready when it was their turn. There was no “mishearing” Between the Jews paperwork & the ships log 99.7% of Jews (& everyone else) walked out with the exact same name they had in Europe.There’s also the issue of “False memory” where a group drastically changes what really happened or creates a myth out of nowhere.
A famous one that was deeply entrenched in American-Jewish culture was “Jews changed their names at Ellis Island” upon investigation this was a myth that didn’t happen.Mi Kaamcha Amish! Hundreds of men coming out & build a barn for a fellow Amish in one day. Every once works together. It’s unbelievable what they accomplish with teamwork & know how.