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Akuperma,
You forgot May 1861 when Lincoln declared Baltimore to be under Martial Law.
Chief Supreme Court Justice Roger Taney ruled only Congress can declare Martial Law & Lincoln’s order is null & void.
Lincoln ignored Taney’s ruling & used his army to occupy Baltimore & enforce Martial Law.

A little history lesson.
Due to the Jewish & Non-Jewish enlightenment, the Emancipation of the Jews, Revolutions, Urbanization, a greater reliance on science, etc. there was a crisis in Traditionalist Judaism. Several responses occurred. 1. A continuation of “Frum” (Yeshivish, Litvish) Judaism with some small changes. 2. Chasidism 3. Reform, & 4. Modern Orthodox.
The Modern Orthodox approach says, “Torah & Mitzvos always come first & that must be the focal point of a Jew’s life. HOWEVER, if on a college campus a student can keep Shabbos (today many campuses have Eruvs), there’s a Kosher Dining Hall, there’s Jewish life (through Hillel, Chabad, etc) then there is nothing wrong with attending a Non-Jewish college. There’s nothing wrong with dressing like any other American & partaking in normal American life.
Thyi preceded RJBS by many years.

I wonder how much those complaining about the cost of filters spend to buy the “Most Mehudar” Esrogim?

The era of the “Coercive Kehilla” ended centuries ago never to be resurrected (except somewhat by Chasidim) again.
As one Rabbi wrote, “The people who think Rabbanim can just wave a magic wand & have the Kehilla do their bidding are sadly mistaken.”

Common,
My point was HOW he was appointed. It was done by one man, Schiff. Did Schiff ask others? Did Schiff consult with leaders of the different Jewish denominations? Was a vote taken?
True Straus was appointed but who made Schiff leader of American Jews to decide who the 1st Jewish cabinet member would be?
Again it goes back to the original question. Schiff worked his way into the highest levels of govt by being rich, influential & well connected (just like Simon Wolf) which caused him to be considered the leader of American Jews despite not being appointed, voted for or deciding on by the rest of American Jews.

All over the Internet are pics of “Devout xtians” whose whole neighborhood burned down except their house. (Xtian) Bibles that survived when nothing else did.
My Rebbe explained if Neisim only happened to Yidden we would lose our free will especially concerning the correct religion. How can a Yid be rewarded for following Judaism when he saw only Jewish holy objects experience Neisim? So yes, if unnaturally a Torah or a statue of Mary survives they are BOTH Neisim.

I have a better idea. For every terror attack committed against America by a French Muslim, El Salvador, Finland & Thailand must pay America $1 billion.

Technically the correct way to write “2025”
Is “2025 years from the birth of our Lord & Savior”
“Anno Domini” means “Year of our Lord”
I think that’s the problem some Jews have.
While every way you look at it we use the Christian calendar there is some difference between (with no choice) recognizing the date used in the culture we live in & outright referring to Yezus as “Our Lord”

It depends on the community.
In the communities that prefer darker clothing & bigger hats Cholov Stam is worse.
For those that allow lighter clothing & smaller/no hats Fraud is worse.

Bli Neder no Matza 30 days before Pesach unless the hostages are free.

The sad tuth is most are Meshichists. Some I’ve asked gave me an explanation that avoided these problems but isn’t the greatest answer either as it can apply to many Jews who died.
I know a person who comes from a Frum background that discovered their ancestors who came to America were Chabad Chasidim so they became Chabad.
They told me they purposely have never visited 770 or the Ohel to distance themselves from this “Meshichist narishkeit”
They may be a minority but there are some Chabadniks that totally reject the Rebbe is Moshiach concept (& think it’s damaging to the movement) & stick to “Old School” Chabad Chasidus.

Gardol & Modern,
It’s easy to cry Racism & Antisemitism when things don’t go your way.
One thing I love about my history teacher is he always explains the other side & what were they thinking. That doesn’t mean you agree, just why they did what they did
First, no one had any idea about a Holocaust in the 1930s because even the Nazis hadn’t thought about it.
Second, fleeing persecution & tyranny, Hadn’t Jews been doing that forever? & (I know people hate when I speak the truth but the Emes is the Emes) Just take the Tsars. They went after the Jews & OTHER MINORITIES, Why? Because he didn’t care about the people or human rights. He wanted peace & quiet & what’s the best way to achieve that? By making everyone the same. If everyone in Russia including the Jews & other minorities were converted into Russian Orthodox Christians & proud, loyal, patriotic Russians he’d have nothing to worry about. Same with the Soviets. Should America have taken in tens of millions of persecuted Jews & Non-Jews from all over the world?
In 1938 unemployment was 19%!!! In 1939 it was 17.2%!!!!
Is it wrong for a country to say they’re going to make sure their own citizens have jobs before letting in foreigners to take them?
If you were the President with massive unemployment would you do anything differently?
& Now the hardest part for Yidden to hear.
Eastern European Jews were described as having “Strange customs & Shiftless ways”
Look at an Eastern European Jew through the eyes of a Non-Jewish American. Funny hair, funny clothes, don’t speak a “real” language, not modernized, uncultured, unwesternized, little to no secular education, & very few having useful skills to bring with them.
Do you give the job of janitor at a factory to an immigrant Jew or an unemployed American citizen?
The other issue we hate to discuss is at that time Communism was very popular & while understandable at the time, MANY Jews were into Communism. The US govt was full of Communists (many of them Jews) in every Dept. The US knew we’d be at war with Communism. If you were in charge would you allow thousands upon thousands of JEWISH (the most disciplined, hard working,) Communists into your country?
p.s. When we claim these attitudes were due to Antisemitism of a perfectly innocent people let’s just look at the present. How many Jews refused to follow masking rules (whether it was right is immaterial, it’s about being good honest lawful citizens of the US & not as they were described having “Shiftless ways”). How many Shul’s locked the front door BUT OPENED THE BACK DOOR to continue holding services? How many of our schools renamed themselves as “Daycare” in order to stay open during Covid? How many weddings & funerals were illegally held cuz “We know better than the Goyim.”?
How many times have Heimish schools been raided by the FBI for “theft of services” by misappropriating govt grants? I’m not saying all Jews cuz it’s not but we also can’t deny even today many of us see the govt as an enemy that needs to be beaten at its own game by “Pulling Shtik” or crying “Antisemitism”
I have a hard time believing if a Non-Jewish minority in South America were being persecuted like the Jews in Eastern Europe were in the 30’s & you were facing many challenges at-home that as President you would say, “Sure, let’s take in 5, 6, or 9 million of these people.”
When you look at this issue as an AMERICAN instead of a JEW you quickly understand why what happened, happened & it wasn’t simply based on Racism & Antisemitism.
Did Antisemitism probably play some role? Yes. But it wasn’t “We can easily take in & absorb these people but the only reason we won’t is because we hate Jews.”

SQUARE ROOT,
I’m sure it’s elsewhere online but my source is an article by Yitzchak Levine (who I believe is a historian from the NY area) printed in the Baltimore monthly magazine (R’ Rice served in Baltimore) Jan. 2014 issue of where-what-when. It’s a fairly long article covering his life & fights with Reformers in his Shul & elsewhere, as well as his movement to establish strict Orthodoxy in America.

Square Root,
We should go back to the beginning. This is from a letter Rabbi Avraham Rice, the first “Real” (& for a while only) Ruv in America wrote to his Rebbe in Germany. (c.1840’s-1850’s)
“One more thing I wish to disclose to you my revered master and teacher…and my soul weepeth in the dark on account of it, namely, that the character of religious life in this land is on the lowest level; most of the people are eating non-kosher food, are violating the Shabbos in public…and there are thousands who have been assimilated among the non-Jewish population and have married non-Jewish women. Under these circumstances, my mind is perplexed, and I WONDER WHETHER A JEW MAY LIVE IN A LAND SUCH AS THIS.”

You have no right to be upset with America not accepting European Jews. They had very valid & legitimate reasons for not doing so.

Bloviation is a style of empty, pompous, political speech that originated in Ohio and was most notably used in his successful 1920 US presidential campaign by Warren G. Harding. He subsequently described it as “the art of speaking for as long as the occasion warrants, and saying nothing”. His opponent, William Gibbs McAdoo, compared it to “an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape in search of an idea.”

Participant,
What do you mean? What do you want to know?

Menachem Shmei,
“many chose (in their ignorance, thanks to the Zionist propaganda) to engage in waving the Zionist flag, etc., instead of engaging in true Judaism”
I’m from a major Jewish community & the most well known & respected Chasidish Rebbe attended a local (not in the community) Pro-Israel rally. In the pics he’s holding a “Zionist flag”
This Rebbe is engaged in “True Judaism” 24/7/365. Whether running his wonderful Shul, helping people, giving Shiurim, or teaching at schools.
I think the difference is in many places Yidden fight or at best ignore each other until the Nazis take over. Where I’m from there’s a lot lower threshold that triggers cooperation. Yidden in Eretz Yisroel are being killed & held hostage. Antisemitism in America (& elsewhere) is skyrocketing. Perhaps (he does) this Rebbe has Chochma. When the Non-Frum Jews at the rally who only know how to wave a Zionist flag see a real Chasidish Rebbe in Chasidus garb right beside them also waving a Zionist flag the message that sends is priceless.

Yserbius,
You’re exactly right though there’s an additional factor at play.
With Civil War looming the President called for January 4, 1861 to be a day of prayer, fasting & humiliation when all should go to their houses of worship to cry out to G-d that a solution is reached instead of war. The Rav gave a strongly Pro-Confederate speech (it’s available online).
New Orleans Jews being strongly Pro-Confederate wanted him as their Rabbi & made an offer.
At the same time Lincoln tired of all the headaches coming out of Baltimore when 1,000 Union soldiers marched in, declared Baltimore to be under Union occupation & Martial Law. They immediately started rounded up influential secessionists & Confederate supporters. The Rabbi fearing being thrown in jail for however long the Union felt, fled Baltimore for New Orleans.

GadolHadofi,
(The Nazis loved propaganda & showing the world America was killing Jews by blowing them to pieces would’ve put the Nazis on cloud 9.)
But anyway, my unpopular opinion is about bombing the tracks being impossible & wouldn’t have changed anything anyway.
Anyone old enough has heard numerous times, me including from survivors, “FDR (Yimach) was an Antisemite. He refused to bomb the tracks to the camps.”

Smerel,
Do you have your grandfather’s documents with his name when he got on the boat & the new name when he exited Ellis Island? Surely you &/or the “people you know” would have the records. That’s generally not something you throw out.
More strangely this concept doesn’t appear until around the 1970’s (amazing with all the literature from 1910-1970 authors never mentioned this concept or used it as a plotline).
Interestingly enough the best guess how this myth went viral is a scene from “The G-dfather” where an Italian immigrant was taken into a room, given a list of American names by immigration officers & told to pick one (which of course is total fiction) but with a surge in ethnic pride during this period people including Jews latched onto this myth without bothering or more likely not interested in finding out if it was true.

A big part of the initial success of the Day School movement in America (most were founded around 1945-1955) was the Supreme Court ruling desegregating the public schools in 1954.
Contrary to claims that the “The Jews” supported the Civil Rights movement (many did, many did not) when faced with the reality of actually having their kids go to school with Black kids they ran. If a Jewish family couldn’t move to an area with an overwhelmingly White &/or Jewish school district the next option was to send them to the Jewish school.
The schools were more than happy to have the opportunity to teach these kids Torah true Yiddishkeit & perhaps have a positive affect on them. Which they had some successes.

Smerel,
This is why I posted this in a thread about “Unpopular opinions” It’s a MYTH people’s name changed at Ellis Island. Do you or “people you know” have any proof? I highly doubt it.
Some Jews did in fact change their name once in America but NOT at Ellis Island.
“Was your name changed at Ellis Island? The simple answer is no. It never happened.
Today there are millions of descendants of immigrants to the U.S. who firmly believe this myth and, despite continued efforts of prominent genealogists and immigration experts, it seems impossible to stamp it out.
This could not have happened for the following reasons:
1. The only thing the clerk did was check off the names on the passenger manifest that was compiled before the ship sailed from Europe (as I mentioned). The Ellis Island clerk never asked the immigrant his or her name.
2. In any case, some 30% of the immigration clerks were themselves multi-lingual immigrants and some 60 languages were spoken, with translators available at all times (as I mentioned 9 Yiddish speaking translators, there was ALWAYS Yiddish speakers available to translate).
3. There was no name change form or any process for an immigration clerk to change a person’s name. It was not a court of law.
“According to the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service senior historian Marian L. Smith:

The report that the clerk “wrote down” the immigrants surname is suspect. During immigration inspection at Ellis Island, the immigrant confronted an inspector who had a passenger list already created abroad. That inspector operated under rules and regulations ordering that he was not to change the identifying information found for any immigrant UNLESS requested by the immigrant, and UNLESS inspection demonstrated the original information was in error.”

Everyone who has claimed & some still claim that “Jews (or Antisemitic officials) changed their last name at Ellis Island is very mistaken as it almost never happened because it was virtually impossible for it to happen.
A captain is responsible for everyone on his ship. So he has to have accurate records of who is on board. In order for a Jew (& Non-Jew) to board they needed to show the ship line their paperwork so it could be properly recorded.
Upon arrival at Ellis Island the immigration officials would take the Captains log to work off of. The wait in line was long. There were 9 Yiddish speaking employees (not officers just civilians) that would go up & down the line explaining to the Jews the process, arrange the documents, tell them what to say, etc). So when a Jew finally came before an officer, the officer had their name in Europe in the Captains log as well as the paperwork with their real name. A few people had a letter left out one brother “Goldstein” & the other “GoldsHtein” But that a Jew walked onto Ellis Island “Goldstein” & walked “Johnson” is a complete myth.
So if anyone claims that tell them they’re wrong. Which some don’t like hearing.