klach

i was in miami and a bunch of yeshivos put together a program for parents in which a few distinguished speakers with tremendous expertise in this area spoke about the importance of having internet filters and having a third party who will be emailed a list of every site visited from your computer. Unfortunately, only like 10% of the frum community showed up, which is a big embarrasment. So first, shame on them. Second, how come there isn’t this kind of initiative in all jewish communities – it is vitally necessary. And third, it seems many people are to proud to admit they need internet protection, and this is very sad.

but sometimes it is necessary to execute someone simply bec of the magbitude of his crimes, like okc bombing, like they should for 9/11 perps yimach

and there are a few stories of people executed by the US who were innocent, which they figured out after DNA evidence became acceptable.

bobchka – that could make for some awkard moments . . .

but theres no way that happens realistically (unless you maybe have an idea . . .)

also, women are [usually] more intrinsically loyal than men are. If you don’t believe me, ask any marriage counselor or rabbi whos in the know on these subjects.

but what if the husband feels his wife doesn’t trust him which hurts his all-important pride??

to Mod: it is disgraceful that someone would insiuate that gedolei yisroel would care about something so stupid, trivial, & inane as religous affiliation over the real issues involved with a situation such as this.

i have 2 lawyers and a judge in my family

mikehall – First, legally, lack of knowledge and intent, (if proven,) means one DID NOT COMMIT THE CRIME!! Knowledge & intenet are vital components in the perpetration of a crime in any reasonable legal system. The only caveat is that this is not an excuse to be stupid and naive on purpose, etc, which these bochurim were clearly not.

Second, to those who support freeing Pollard for the RIGHT reasons, his religous affiliation at the time and the state of isreal haave no relevance whatsoever The gedolim support this tremendous mitzvah.

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ronsr – good one

all i can say is that the bochurim in japan were not responsible to the extent they should be incarceratedd in japan for a crime. The proof is the gedolim who have gone to bat for them and defended their innocence vociferously. about others, it’s a nebuch but its not a good idea to jump to conclusions

Says Who????!!!!!!!!

have you been following at all what happened???!!!

or do you think you know better than the Gedolim who rallied around the bochurim and endorsed and involved themselves heavily in their legal efforts!!!

if you went to the airport and got arrested because someone snuck something illegal into your bag and you had no clue – are you going to plead guilty?! “You honor, I unknowingly transported illegal drugs and therefore should be sentenced to 10 years”!!??