Was it hard this year? How about the DBQ?

nice, thanks!

Omg that’s nuts!!! lol that reminds me of the time that we stole our counselors phone and pretended that we flushed it down the toilet..didn’t give it back to her till many hrs later!! that was many yrs ago tho we were really immature!

Maybe look into the Denver Yeshiva. I don’t really know much about it, but I just know that its a smaller out of town yeshiva, I think that most of the boys dorm there, and the Rebbes have a reputation for being very warm.

Then I definitely belong to this club thanx for the grand welcome!

omg how could you have forgotten?!?!?!? lol! but good job!

haha thanx shopping! im liking this;) sure ill join..but what is it exactly?? wtvr it is, it sounds like some big honor to be part of!!

Damoshe it’s a camp song..sorry ill stop hijacking this thread!!! I shouldn’t of posted that!!!

I’ll post another one that’s not a camp song though…

When you look at me what do you see, who I am or who I want to be

No idea shopping! Which is surprising cuz I usually know all of the camp songs :/ and btw u are totally allowed o take the booklets at the end of the summer!!

But I’m sure that u can get this one…

It’s the constant dedication that is always sent our way

how about this one?

and even thought he seems so far, things just don’t seem right

the tunnels dark, your looking for the light

just one shabbos by mbd

Harmony by 8th day

I did the same thing as you, but I knew that if I would put even a few non-Jewish songs on my ipod I would just end up wanting to put on more and more and eventually get right back to where I used to be. So the middle ground that I got to was that at the beginning ever time I heard the any English music I wanted more, so I completely stopped. but now I am able to go places that are playing the music and be with people who are listening to it without wanting more and wanting it on my ipod.

I don’t know about you but for myself I didn’t find it so possible to just keep “some” of it.

I have never been to Shira, but a friend of mine who went there told me that they did have to wear shirts with collars. We went to the mall before that summer, and I remember her getting polos and some tops that had collars from areopostale. I think that most of the girls (especially in the older age groups) end up wearing mostly long black slinky skirts.

danish123,

ya, I totally hear u and u def made sense. it just sounds like ur trying really hard to do the right thing, and that little yetzer hara inside u is getting real mad because you’ve succeeded for a week already. no, ur never gonna b able to avoid it completely, cuz we don’t live in that sheltered perfect world, but our job is just to try our best. God doent expect any more then that and Hes very proud of the effort ur putting in. Those friends don’t sound to sensitive rite now, and it cud b bc they subconsciously feel guilty that they arnt a strong as u r or it can just be bc they don’t realize how important this is to u. wtvr their reason is, don’t let them bring u back down. its hard now, but it will get easier. and just don’t stop forgetting how much Hashem loves u and how proud u r making Him up there!

Hey Revooh16!

Just wanted to let you no that I really admire you for trying to stop listening to English music. I know that it can be very hard, especially since I recently stopped myself. At first, I tried to slowly stop by taking some of that music off my iPod and adding some Jewish songs. That didn’t last very long and I went right back to listening to the English music again.

A few months later, I again decided that I only wanted to listen to Jewish music. This time however, I did not want to slide right back like I had the last time. I decided to stop cold turkey. I deleted all of my English music and got lots of Jewish music. I did not let myself listen to certain songs from the Maccabeats and AKA Pella that I knew the original songs, because I knew that would only make me want to go back to those songs.

I have to say that b”H this really worked. I have not listened to English music since the beg of the school year. At first it was really hard, but as time went on it became much easier and I learnt to appreciate the pesukim and the inspiration of the Jewish music.

They say that you have to go from one extreme to the other to get to a middle healthy place. So at 1st I was listening to all English music, then I completely stopped. Now I believe that I am in that middle area. If I am at a store that has music blasting, or I am with some friends who are playing their music or in a car that has it on, I no longer feel like I need that in my life. Additionally, I now can listen to the maccabeats and groups like that without wanting the original versions.

Basically, just thought that this might give you some tips on how to stop like not trying to slowly stop, but by stopping all at once. Good Luck!

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I have a friend who is very ‘at risk’. She tells me that she feels like her parents don’t care about her at all. One of the big examples that she uses it that when she comes home at 3 am most parents would question their kids about where they were etc. but hers don’t. She prob would get defensive if they did ask, but even tho she puts on that tough exterior for them that’s not how she feels. No, they wouldn’t be able to stop her, but maybe she would think twice before going and doing whatever she is doing.

However, she is not close with them, so if they would just randomly start asking her questions about her friends etc. she prob would get annoyed with them and not want to answer.

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And ur rlly strong also good job! Hashem is forsure proud of u now and don’t give it up if He doesn’t say yes to your tefillos now…only He knows what’s best for u. I’m also talking to myself as I’m saying that cuz I def need to remember that also

u have good friends! im sure that it will b/c even if u want to listen to it, u wont have it there availible for u to listen to at all times.

Thepurpleone that’s great to if its keeping u away from the English music…can’t do everything at once especially at the beg so keep it up! I listen to both Shweky ybc etc and 8th day matisyahu type of songs

I recently stopped listening to English music, but my bus also has English music blasting in the morning and on the way home so I have my own iPod with Jewish music that I listen to so I won’t hear the music that the bus driver plays.

What is the difference between borrowing CD and borrowing a book? If I borrow a book from someone and read it, I will probably not go and buy the book the same way that I wouldnt be buying the CD. So in both cases, the author/publisher/singer will be loosing money, so according to this is it also assur to borrow a book?