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Regarding your question if there is a mitzvah nowadays to live in Eretz Yisroel, as the Ramban says, or if there is no mitzvah nowadays, as Rabbeinu Chaim says, quoted in Tosafos on Kesubos 110b: Most poskim hold it is a mitzvah. But it is obvious that this is not an obligatory mitzvah in our time, for if so, it would result in a prohibition to live in Chutz Laaretz because doing so would be violating a positive commandment, like wearing a four-cornered garment without tzitzis, which is forbidden because it transgresses the positive commandment of tzitzis. But we only find a prohibition regarding one who lives in Eretz Yisroel, who is forbidden to leave with the intention of dwelling permanently in Chutz Laaretz – see Rambam Hilchos Melachim 5:9. And this prohibition is certainly not a negative commandment. Had it applied to the Jews of Chutz Laaretz, the Rambam would have written, ‘It is forbidden to live in Chutz Laaretz unless there is a strong famine in Eretz Yisroel.’ So we see that it is a Rabbinic prohibition, only for those who dwell in Eretz Yisroel. But as far as the Biblical positive commandment, it is not obligatory, only that if one lives there he fulfills the mitzvah. And in my Chiddushim I have written at great length about the words of Rabbeinu Chaim in Tosafos in Kesubos. Now, since it is not an obligatory mitzvah, you must definitely take into consideration the concern of Rabbeinu Chaim in Tosafos as to whether you will be able to keep the special mitzvos of Eretz Yisroel.” (Igros Moshe, Even Hoezer 1:102)
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Gemara says that if we try to rebel against the nations we will be hunted down like sheep in addition the satmar rebbe said in 1947 that they will call there day of independence yom hastzmut and what’s the shoiresh of hastzmut atzmis bones he said the from this medineh will only result in bones and in today’s times we can see how true it is so can I guarantee that there won’t be a attack against Jews in America no however when you rebel against Hashem u can be assured that it won’t end well as the history of Israel proves
How many people were killed In the 1948 war 1956 war 1967 & 1973 wars first and second intifadas and in other terror attacks in Israel put those numbers together and you’ll be easily able to disprove the idea that Israel is a “safe haven” for jews
Aha u people are talking about me behind back good to know I see how u all are
Meow is my response
Zionism is a complete and utter failure at what it tried to (supposedly) accomplish which was to create a safe haven for Jews a
Simple look at statistics well show u that the biggest number of
Jews have been killed In Israel over the past 60 years so besides
For exacerbating anti semitism what has the state of
Israel accomplished?
The world is to big i like staying in my little corner here in yeshiva
I always found the mo shitah to be ridiculous
40 topics a day shouldn’t be approved there shud be a limit ps hi
Who was Sarah shchreiner?
I guess im goin to gehennom as I stood and held a sign against netenyahu and Zionism
It’s basically a matter of family custom nothing more
Same thing by me I’m kj chusid!!
At first it appears black and blue however if you adjust the lighting you’ll clearly see that….. NO ONE CARES!!!
Where can I get earplugs ?
Who hates frum Jews what are u talking about
I’ve listened however there isn’t any logic to what there saying
Ourtorah it’s not only the learning that’s the problem Jewish people are not allowed to have a army or state for that matter so my issue with the draft isn’t only due to bitel Torah it’s also because they are attempting to force us to participate in there rebellion against hashem
That’s the chasidish system
Yea I’m here I was out for like 5 days though
Golem I’m saying that what u asked is not relevant to nk that’s y u weren’t answered however if you post your question over here I myself can try to answer
&simcha you have to understand that Zionism caused the total secularization of millions of Jews it happens to be that individuals within there state which became frum not due to the state at all but due to private efforts your forgetting if not for Zionism millions of people wouldn’t have been become frei in the first place
2/2 Why am I telling this story? It is because I wanted to describe how the wicked Zionists, both today and in those days, were the cause of our suffering! They cooperated with the Nazis, and our religion teaches that a person who causes someone to sin is worse than someone who kills him.
It reminds me of an event recounted by Rabbi Moshe Schonfeld, who once visited Rabbi Avraham Yeshayahu Karelitz {Chazon Ish) when the Zionist state was established, and when there was fighting between the Zionists and the Arabs. Rabbi Schonfeld told Rabbi Karelitz about what was happening. Rabbi Karelitz told him that the crimes of the Zionists were much worse, because they were wicked heretics who were uprooting hundreds of thousands of Jews from their faith and that is much greater pain since our Sages stated that a person who causes another person to sin is much worse than if he kills him.
In our own days there is a Zionist leader (Begin), whose arrogance and selfishness is more important than anything else to him, and for which he is prepared to sacrifice hundreds and thousands of Jews. These heretics and evildoers, this Zionist leader of a state that killed the Judaism of the Yemenite and Moroccan Jews, and of many other Sephardic Jews! This is the work of these thugs and gangsters. And there are religious Jewish parties who dare to state that they love this man?! Everyone must know that the anger of the Arabs against us is only caused by the Zionists!
The Arabs were a friendly people to us, and I am a witness to it. We lived very well with them in Hebron. Rabbi Alter attested to this as well, and it is the accursed Zionists who caused them to hate us. The Zionists dare to use their power to expel the Arabs, and even today in Lebanon, they kill and butcher the Arabs; they wipe out whole villages with the airplanes they get from the United States.
1/2 a free translation of a Yiddish transcript of a taped interview made some twenty years ago with the late Rabbi Baruch Kaplan, who was a principal of the Beis Yaakov Girls School in Brooklyn, and who was a student in the Hebron yeshiva (religious school) in 1929 at the time of the killing of a number of Jews by some Arabs. Rabbi Kaplan explains how events unfolded, and how it was the arrogant and cowardly Zionist maniacs who perpetrated the events by provoking the Palestinians
Rabbi Kaplan
I have also seen a letter from the Grand Rabbi of the Gerrer Hassidim of those days, Rabbi Avraham Mordechai Alter of Poland, regarding his trip to the Holy Land during the days when people were talking about emigrating to Palestine. He wanted to find out what kind of people the Palestinians were, in order to be able to advise people whether to move there or not. He wrote in his letter that the Arabs were a very friendly and fine people.
Afterwards, we were studying at the yeshiva in Hebron, and saw a bunch of boys in short pants carrying weapons on bicycles and motorcycles, running around the streets of Hebron. We were very worried about this. What were they up to?
The next morning we heard about the excitement in town, and even worse, we heard the crying and shouting. I and a friend, Avraham Ushpener, lived in an apartment that was part of a three-story building leased by a Jew from an Arab. We could hear all the noise from our apartment on the third floor. We were terrified to let the Arabs in because we knew how angry they had become, but a while later things calmed down. In total, some 65 people were killed. On the other side of town, however, the Jews were spared.
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Thank you mods
Ok I’ll tell you why that wasn’t answered because it’s irrelevant there not looking to chat with you if u have something a proposition for example then they would answer u post the whole thing and I’ll try to answer
Eretz hakoidesh u want I’ll call it palestine np
Ok I can pass it on what was the message
While it’s true that anti semitism has been around long before the creation of Zionism the biggest catalyst of exacerbating anti semitism today is Zionism due to there occupation of the holy land
U mean like attempting to draft us into there illegitimate army and beating us when we protest it? You mean the total secularizing of millions of Sephardim? Or do you mean causing anti semitism to rise tremendously? Which one of those things should I be thankful for 147? What you don’t understand is that the founders of Zionism were atheists and self hating Jews and they would have hated you just as much as they would hate me and the same still applies today
I was there and someone threw something and it hit my arm and I still have the scar
No I Just live in kj and I still have a small scar from 2005 and Benjamin netenyahu is the man most responsible for anti semitism in the world today
@pba shame on you 147 yom hastzmut is a sad day which is mourned by all of authentic Torah Jewry @oyr what do u mean get in do u want the phone number to the gabbai or
Address?
Who do you think you are??? You can’t just come and steal my name!!!
Me college?! Lol that’s hysterical high School also not yeshiva satmar sounds more accurate
I also imagine wearing a hoodie lol
Yes it is thanx for noticing and no I didn’t know u were joking as those were both ridiculous things to do
If I go to Williamsburg I use my flip phone outside it’s a lot of fun
Lg I’m suprised to see u would write that u seem to be a generally happy person maybe giving some details would help us understand your situation better
Thanx mods !
@rebyidd I can’t confirm or deny that claim as my lawyer instructed me to say nothing however you should be expecting a letter soon from my lawyer..