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kavod hatorahParticipant
Someone suggested Yeshiva Ohr Chodosh in Seagate run by Rabbi Moshe Lamm and Rabbi Eliyahu Sonnenschein. Anyone know anything about it?
kavod hatorahParticipantIf she said that she is a really frum girl who wants a working guy, would everyone be so quick to tell he to consider going out with a long term learner if everything else fits? Why not?
kavod hatorahParticipanttaking food stamps is not a mitzvas aseh but talmud torah kineged kulum!!
kavod hatorahParticipantObservateen got it right i just meant that there are things that bachurim should not do that others do!!!
kavod hatorahParticipantMytake: its not that the kollel guy needs the respect its just the way the house should be set up!
kavod hatorahParticipantWell said avram and brisker!! i also think that if you are doing a productive thing like learning in kollel or lehavdil in college you should take them if you need them and not be embarassed.
kavod hatorahParticipantMy proof is that that is what my rebbi told me.who he is i cant tell you but he is someone who you all respect a real gadol biyisroel.
kavod hatorahParticipantWolf: thats why my name is kavod hatorah and yours is not i listen to my rebbe unlike you who if you disagree you just do what you want.
and that rav who takes out his garbage maybe his wife cant do it for whatever reason.
kavod hatorahParticipantIf the only way i could stay in kollel is to use them should i go get a job?{i am not in kollel but if i was}
kavod hatorahParticipantNo one adressed the fact that if my rebbe was rav ruderman or rav hutner thats what i would be told to do!!
kavod hatorahParticipantmytake: Most people in kollel need extra money
eclipse: if i need it because i am sitting and learning i should be embaressed?
kavod hatorahParticipantI might live in the wrong place but sadly i live in the area with the most frum jews! And of course we treat our wives like queens but the way its supposed to be woman doing housework. AND YES IF THE GARBAGE IS TOO HEAVY ITS DIFFERENT!!
kavod hatorahParticipantWhere do you live that most of your balabatim are bney aliyah? Where i live most people just live out of habit wake up daven go to work do the daf daven and go to sleep.
kavod hatorahParticipantIf i am a talmid of one of those rosh hayeshiva and my rebbi told me to only do things that are respectfull of of who i am should i ignore him?
kavod hatorahParticipantNo prob wolf. The alter of slabodka held that people that torah is their job should be treated like prince’s{prince’s dont take out the garbage} so his students like rav ruderman rav kaminetsky and rav hutner held this way. Obviously if your wife needs you to do it its a differnt story what yhey held was it shoudnt be the kollel husbands CHORE.
kavod hatorahParticipanthang around gedolim and look how they act! if you cant read biographies.
kavod hatorahParticipantsince i was the one who started this i will explain what i meant. I hav heard many times ppl puting down the yeshiva guys for things that yeshiva guys do and not recognising that even if they are doing some stuff wrong i.e. smoking they are still people that are busy doing what god wants them to! how many balabatim are bney aliyah {and the few that are, its great} i am not puting working guys down but we hav to realize that yeshiva guys are busy doing holy work and that in itself should put them on a pedistal! btw there were torah giants who held a kollel guy should generaly not take out the garbage because he is a guy learning torah all day so just because you dont like it if he is doing it because he is following those gedolim he is doing the right thing!!
kavod hatorahParticipantdo you respect yeshiva guys that smoke? prob not right?
kavod hatorahParticipantcoudnt agree more its disgusting whats going on taking all the goyish advertiasing tricks someone should put an end to it
kavod hatorahParticipantits the right thing to spend yom tov wiyh family unless you want to spend it in yeshiva
kavod hatorahParticipantI just think that alot of working people feel they are better and deserve respect from kollel guys and yeshivabachurim while they dont have to have respect for them.
kavod hatorahParticipantto the king: cant talk about this enough and of course we have to respect the balabatim that fund the learning but i think ppl generaly respect the rich man enough but the learning guy who is sweating over a gemarah is considered second class. why??
kavod hatorahParticipantyour right and the fact that they hold up the world is enough to make them deserve the respect!
kavod hatorahParticipantmaybe translate for the english speaking folk
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