kapusta

to be or not to be…

teen: this is continueds from before and I just read this part now. if someone gives u a gift u have the right to say that u dont want it…i was never givent his choice with judiasm it was “ur born a jew so now u need to b jewish” (as an aside i dont find that very fair[dont say life isnt fair]…as much as it may b better for me and an amazing gift y cant i say no id rather not have it? and its not a very good gift if bec i dont listen to it i am going to burn is it?)

I kinda lost you at the end but that might be the 5 am thing kicking in (from my end) but I get the idea of what you’re saying. bottom line is, if you were born into a frum family thats the only way of life you were exposed to up until now. Judaism is not meant to be forced down your throat. I don’t want this to be taken out of context and have a bunch of replys about the wrongs of the school system but just one thing I want to mention.

The point of spending 15 years in a yeshiva/BY setting is to gain the tools necessary to realize the chachma of the Torah so later on in life you’ll know where to turn when something comes up. This can be learned from Chumish/Navi or Gemarah or Hashkafa or whatever it is. It can also be learned from any life situation and one day it’ll hit you in the face. No one is making you be frum, the idea is to make you want to be a frum jew. on your own.

Next point: we are chosen and it does make us better. We might start out equal but we have the potential to become so much greater than anyone. We are Yisrael, the highest level of creation but aside from that just think about it this way. If there is a father with 7 children. One he favors more than the other 6. Therefore he gives whatever he can thats extra to his favorite. Maybe a larger inheritance, or a better career. he is handing him the tools in which to become a better person. You are created and the manufacturer gave you a manual to navigate life with. It says what you can do because you have bechira and what the best thing to do is because you have a manual. It contains the ins and outs, and how to get out of tough situations. If you have that and someone else gets the same product without the guidelines. who would be better off? When you know the manufacturers intentions, you are capable of getting the most use out of it. Whats the benefit of having a product thats constantly breaking down on you?

sorry mods, this took ages to write and I can just imagine reading it. Good Shabbos.

teen: yes you do (and I’m in kind’ve a rush now so I’ll try to do more on this later) but if you would compare the average joe on the street and the average frum guy and see how their life differs. I was recently thinking that the goy has no aspirations in life and nothing to live for. only the present. the ones who are on a higher “level” marry, have kids, and maybe go for a career. but (from their side) why were they put here? and why would they be created if their not accomplishing anything?

next point: do you hear or do you firmly believe the Torah was given for your benefit? lets just say the recent medical studies that milk and meat together are very unhealthy. I won’t go into extensive detail here, but just think about how many diseases are normal in the secular world that are almost unheard of by frum jews. I once saw an interview with experienced people in the medical field (it was done around 20 years ago, so they’ve definitely made advances since then) and at that point they hadn’t discovered a need for circumsicion, but they knew that the eighth day was the best day to do it. may more examples but I gtg now. Sorry for being so philosophical for so early. 🙁

qwerty yes, sometimes and before I was doing it and trying to find the “lost g” I went to the a and counted asdfg (thanks to asdf) and got to the right letter… didnt try it with your name although I can quote it…

since the last update we are just 4 posts away from 1500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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asdf I thought it was called for at an occassion like this.

present but just for a few more minutes

Moish dont you think that G-d created you and wants you to have the best life possible? thats why He gave you the Torah. Do you believe the Torah was given for your benefit or just as a general outline for life?

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feivel, they dont! something wrong with me?

your talking about a scroll wheel on an optical mouse or the bottom of a bally-type mouse? (what else do you call it?) don’t I sound smart?

areivim: does captain Kapusta get a part?

asdf, I’m happy, it seems you’ve adopted my way of thinking. and I would make the list if I would know whos still out,(haven’t been checking in to much this week and didn’t yet make up for lost time) other than the obvious squeak and ames, completely lost. oh yeah, and brooklyn19… but those are the main ones…

wow Moish, its great! how long did it take you to do that? (and do you still have the letters of the word cabbage on your keyboard in working order?

ya know mods, I was gonna give you a compliment a few minutes ago that you were doin great… I’m seriously reconsidering now…

asdf thank you for your warm (?) welcome, now why isn’t anyone else disappionted at the captains absence?

areivim lol!

qwerty- any end in sight yet?

qwerty- thanx for the vote of confidence

asdf what? no welcome back? and you were just getting back on my good side…

areivim: please repost. thanx

charlie -I was just pointing it out, no hard feelings, and I am only to happy to take back my position.

This might belong on the inspiring quotes thread, it fits here too. “I am careful not to confuse excellence with perfection. Excellence I can reach for; perfection is G-ds business.” -Michael J. Fox

ahhem, Kapustas here, just keeping quiet for right now…

Well maybe not, basically I’ll add in my vote that someone with guilt is on a higher madreiga then someone with none. Eventually the guilt may turn into something and if we didn’t have any guilt we would just go lower and lower. Sometimes you have to go back a step to take two steps forward.

BTW, charlie, this is wierd I know but just curious why you spelled charata 2 different ways in the same post. I know I’m the captain of this ship, so lets get back on track.

I think the mods are helping the “addictees” in question by just not updating, although it has improved, drastically.

just to prove that I’m a good captain, I logged in. now who is honest enough to say they’ve missed me? hope to return fully soon. but not tonight. its ok, you don’t need to cry anymore. there there…

no asdf I’m here and I don’t need any training but I can’t stay for long I am hereby annointing myself captain of page 14 anyone who wishes to post must get my permission for the next 50 posts (or however many posts fit per page)btw, I want an inauguration party and whoever starts it gets one free post. sniffle sniffle, that took a lot out of me to offer that.

btw moish, I did that without notes! aren’t you proud of me? (only if it worked, if not it was someone else who no one knows)

moish I must say I’m impressed, you were (almost) right…

could we get this thread to 1000 posts before random questions hits 1500… this one is cute and unfortunately true. people spend money they dont have to buy things they dont need to impress people they dont like (there was a longer version, but I forget the rest right now.)

you think… some of us know better…

at least maybe a royal amateur? and btw, believe it or not, I would consider myself to be pretty computer savvy.

asdf I am seriously getting insulted here, twice in one night. when I get my own page to mod, lets see how many of your posts get on there…a shout out to everyone else, be nice to me