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DY – I know, and, as he himself says he hates the fact that he doesn’t like it. But there is still no reason to accuse him of denying the validity of one of the sifrei tanach and essentially calling him a kofer.
Toi – Unfortunately I think that the shelo lishma crowd vastly outnumber the lishma crowd. And as far as your second point goes that’s simply not true either, people are makpid on many mitzvos for many reasons – kavod, ‘frumkeit’ (Rav Wolbe in Alei Shur has a wonderful piece on this), societal reasons, OCD amongst many others – it is no indicator of yiras shomayim. And there is still no correlation between those that are makpid on (l’dugma) Chazon Ish shiurim and whether or not they get drunk lishma – I was in two of the largest yeshivos in the world for a number of years and saw it first hand.
Toi – I thought alcoholism was a chiyuv gomur and now you’re talking about alcoholics being chayav misa? http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/ad-delo-yoda#post-441754
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/ad-delo-yoda/page/2#post-442722
Sorry, but I couldn’t resist…
(TFIC-tongue firmly in cheek)
edited to prevent misunderstanding of abbreviation
midwesterner –
So yageir thinks kisvei kodesh are not honest.
That’s not what he said, and I think you know it. What he said was that he has to be honest and admit that Purim is not his favourite Yom Tov and the lack of H’ mentioned explicitly in the Megilla unnerves him –
hate to say it but I never liked the megillah and purim to be honest…maybe the fact there is no hashem in all of it?
There’s no reason to go throwing out personal attacks…
Purple
Purple people with purple faces,
In purple houses from purple places,
Owning purple dogs and purple cats,
And purple coats and purple hats.
Purple bees in purple hives,
Purple cars on purple drives,
Purple trees, phones, roads and stores
Are all contained on these purple shores,
With purple beaches and purple sand.
You can find all of these in Orangeland.
(With apologies to ThePurpleOne)
I’m disturbed at people dressing up as Scooby Doo. Don’t they know that Scooby Doo was a Great Dane, one of the breeds of dog that the Nazis used as guard-dogs? (Tfic)
Toi – I have experimented and there is zero correlation between getting completely legless and being makpid in other mitzvos. The fact that for the fourth year in a row both batei din in my city have made takanos against excessive drinking is ra’aya enough. Incidentally, spending hours dreying over your hadassim is no indicator of yiras shomayim….
superme – I don’t think it’s the 40 days that’s important so much as the davening 3 times a day.
Purple – And please try and accept the other points that I made too vis-a-vis segulos and davening. They really are important to understand, and I wouldn’t want you to ignore them simply because you think I insulted you personally (something I did not wish to do).
Purple – Sorry, don’t take it personally, but it’s true. Your stated reasons were all self-centred, hence your reasons selfish. I was not calling you a selfish person, simply saying that you had failed to take anyone but yourself into account. If people can’t point out when others are behaving in a manner that could be improved for fear of not ‘validating their feelings’ or some such then nobody would ever grow. I hate to burst your normally carefree bubble but you are approaching this issue with superficial and, I hate to say it again, slightly selfish motives. I was merely trying to point that out so that you could re-evaluate your approach and see that maybe you have no need to get so desperate. Your sister’s marriage is not about you having a good time at a wedding and you need to appreciate that. Please accept this in the spirit in which it was intended.
Purple – I’ve held myself back from commenting on this thread for a while, but I really can’t any more. Firstly, segulos in general need to be treated with great care – they need proper mekoros miyomim yomimo, not simply brochures from tzedaka organisations. Perek shira, according to Rav Elyahiv, does not have a mekor outside of its own introduction. Secondly, they need to be used in the correct way and most definitely NOT as a quick-fix to Any Given Problem. They also need to be recognized as not being foolproof and that, regardless of how many times you go somewhere or say something, ultimately it is HKB’H who runs the world. If not there are serious problems of issurim d’oraysa (see R’ Yaakov Hillel’s Tomim Tihyeh for further details). Unfortunately there seems to be a trend nowadays of pulling segulos out from hats, the more irrational and illogical the better. They’ve also been commercialised, appropriated by tzedaka organisations who claim to hold the sole key to the gate of yeshuos, openable by them for a small fee.
I can tell you from experience that there is only one truly foolproof segula and that is tefilla. Pure and simple. Doesn’t matter where or for how many days. I did shir hashirim for 40 days, I did perek shira for 40 days, I did the Kosel for 40 days, I did all three together. I tried Iggeres HaRamban (wherein he is mavtiach that one who says it HKB’H will be ‘mekayem mish’alos libo’ that very day). And guess what? H’ said “not yet”. Nearly 3 years later I realised why when I met my wife who is a few years younger than me. Because HKB’H knows what He’s doing, and to quote 2 nice Jewish boys from New York: “G-d only knows, G-d has his plan and the destination is not revealed to the mortal man.”
As far as brochos go (and I didn’t know Gedolim’s daughters were in the business now too…), they’re also not actual havtochos. I’m not sure why R’ Chaim Kanievsky’s daughter would be more efficacious than R’ Chaim himself, who gave me a brocho that I would get engaged during a certain year; I didn’t. Brochos are not guarantees so please don’t get so excited so soon.
As far as your reasons for wanting your sister to get married, I hate to say it but they are really rather superficial, immature and actually a bit selfish. You want a nice wedding to go to, but marriage is what happens after the chasuna and entails what we in the trade call “real-life”. You want a brother-in-law – what for?! You want nieces and nephews, which is all very nice but you won’t be the one raising these children. You admit that your sister is still young, so maybe give her time. Maybe she isn’t quite ready just yet.
Sof kol sof, your sister is young. She isn’t on the shelf. There is no reason for you to be so desperate. No reason to try every segula in the brochure. If you want to see her happy, just daven. And if it doesn’t happen in the time-frame you think it should, don’t worry – maybe, just maybe, HKB’H knows something you don’t.
Perchance it behooves us to establish a cthonic movement for the advancement of sesquipedalianism…
My favourite word ever: quaquaversal.
WIY – Sorry, but again you missed the point of my post. Please, before you reply, google ‘the duck that won the lottery’.
I’m sure he’s a major talmid chochom. I’m equally sure that he isn’t a ba’al mofes and wouldn’t like to be portrayed as such.
Besides, you completely missed the point of my post. I was not being mean, merely trying to point out a logical problem in a humorous way – google ‘the duck who won the lottery’ and it might help you see what I was trying to say.
And in other news this week, a duck won the lottery…
Popa – I considered it, but felt my point would be better made by contextualisation.
Should threads that are started for the sole purpose of harassing someone about their preference for grammatical accuracy be allowed on the CR?
Yes, at least a semblance of it anyway.
For Chesterton it was more than simply a narrative technique, it was a philosophy of life. If you’re at all interested you should have a read of some of his collections of philosophical essays – they’re worth a read even for those to of a philosophical bent (though some of it has to be taken with a pinch of salt as he is quite forward about his Catholicism).
OOM – In fairness to your nerdiness, I didn’t actually have a clue what it meant when I was 7, just what it stood for…
I remember prions from the BSE outbreak here in England when I was about 7. Running around primary school saying “BSE stands for Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy” was so much fun. And it didn’t make me look Iike a nerd at all.
It’s ours. We got it as our birthday present we did. It’s mine. My own. My precious.
42 – Ha gufah ra’aya, the conversation you quoted takes place before the school year started and Hagrid is quoted as saying that Quirrell is “scared of his own subject”, implying that he already teaches DADA, the subject he then teaches the following school year (i.e. for a second consecutive year) and after the Sorting Ceremony Percy tells Harry that Snape has “been after Quirrell’s job for years”, again implying that Quirrell taught the subject previously. Quirrell is not welcomed back, implying that the year out was not the previous one nor is it mentioned that (unlike when Snape changes subject in Book 6) he will now be teaching a different subject than before. His turban (which he got on the year out) is something that the pupils are used to already, as Fred and George show when they tell Harry (on the second day of term) that some think he keeps garlic underneath to ward of vampires (in other words he wore the turban the previous year and therefore the year out was at least two previous). For all the above reasons, and others besides, (whatever JKR may try and retroactively claim) I find the Quirrell conundrum implacable.
I have Detritus’ brains, Cheery’s height, Vimes’ sobriety, Nobby’s looks, Colon’s tact and Igor’s social skills. Basically, I’m everything good about the Watch…
I’ve always identified with Rincewind…
real israeli – not sure about that, book 6 implies that the job was cursed as soon as Voldemort left Dumbledore’s office after applying for the job, which was soon after he himself left school.
DaasYochid – unless there’s a chilfei girso’os between the English and American versions I’m not sure how we get two dei’os in whether or not Quirrell was already the DADA teacher or not…
42 – he is introduced to Harry in the Leaky Cauldron as the current DADA teacher and Fred and George clearly refer to him as having taught the subject the previous year. Mareh mokom will be provided when I can get hold of a copy.
OOM – It’s up to you really. It kind of was and kind of wasn’t. If you want it to be then it is and if not then not…
OOM – Sure. And Quasimodo probably just had a wonky nose but it got lost in translation.
Bigger question – how on earth could Quirrell have been teaching at Hogwarts before Harry came (and it’s mashma he’s been there a few years) given that in book 6 we discover the DADA job is cursed and no-one can have it for more than a year?
Scoliosis is a sideways curvature of the spine and usually just means that one shoulder is slightly higher than the other. Hunchbacks are not involved.
R’ Dovid Dryan set up Gateshead Yeshiva, not Kollel. The Kollel is post-war and Rav Dessler was the one and only Rosh Kollel they have ever had (they have a committee now). I actually know the grandson of one of the original parnesim of the kollel.
Let’s even say for arguments sake that you’re right and it was opened in the 20’s that’s still less than the 100+ years you originally claimed:
gateshead koillel in england has definitely passed a century.
And guess what? He had no hunchback nor “with’rd arm”. So apparently Shakespeare was totally not any kind of Tudor/Stuart PR guy… :-p
I don’t want to get involved in the hashkafic issues here but just to point out a factual inaccuracy – Gateshead Kollel has not been around for anywhere near a Century let alone passed it. 65 years is nearer the mark.
ICOT – Thanks!
Oh, and I would like to be Septimus Weasley (Ron’s grandfather), just coz no-one really knows who am I (even the ones that know who I am don’t really know who I am) and I like chess.
Pas nisht – lo al halechem l’vado yichye ho’odom…
Loyal Jew/Joseph – You’ve “heard it described”, I actually know a fair bit about it. It does not all have Church input as I have previously pointed out with specific reference to composers and their work. Classical music is generally regarded as being that composed from around 1550 onwards specifically because that’s when music started being composed primarily for secular or artistic purposes rather than religious ones. Please, before making ridiculous generalisations learn something about the subject you’re commenting on.
Boo!
*whose side*
Elgar and Mahler are my stand-outs, but it really depends my mood. Einaudi is wonderful for relaxing with, the Russians (Prokofiev, Borodin, Romsky-Korsakof, Tchaikovsky) are good for working to. Having said that, with the exception of Wagner (which is just noise) I go for pretty much anything.
akuperma – On a few of your points… Point 2), whilst it is technically true, the ‘some’ you mention is a miuta d’miuta. Pretty much everything written after 1550 or so (generally regarded as the beginning of the Classical era) is completely secular in nature. Granted, Handel did put out a lot of religious stuff but he out out a lot anyway. Yes, most of the Baroque and early Classical composers wrote one or two religious pieces but there were by no means any kind of majority. After the early Classical composers (so from about 1800) it is extremely rare to find any specific Church-music (with the exception of Faure and some of the current crop such as John Rutter).
On your point 3). I’m not quite sure why you refer to Zionists, plenty of teshuvos have been written on why it is muttar to listen to music today (R’ Moshe alone wrote 3). Even before then, what would the hetter have been for Chassidishe Niggunim? It seems quite obvious that people have been listening music outside of Seudos Mitzva for hundreds of years.
Loyal Jew – Learn something about classical music before making sweeping comments. See above response to akuperma for more details.
I think Health might be Snape; you never really know who’s side he’s going to be on…
I have an old fuji S5700 bridge which I use far too much for my wife’s patience. If I could a decent kit I would, probably a 5D mkIII. But I can’t, so no dice.
What subjects do the olam prefer shooting? Personally, it’s wildlife – trips to the zoo with me can be quite stressful for everyone else…
I’ve read every single TP, twice. Guess that makes me president for life…
Bah, humbug!
Short answer to OP – maybe. Yesh ladun, as they say in the yeshivah velt. The inyan, it seems, is tzarich iyun.
Just thought the olam should know that the phrase is “every lid has a pot”. Not “every pot has a lid”. As has been observed not every pot has a lid but the only reason a lid would be made is to cover a pot, hence the necessity of pot given lid. Or in mathematical terms: (p)p|l = 1. Whereas (p)l|p < 1. We could possibly do a study on the incidence of pot/lid co-manufacture to determine a precise value for (p)l|p but I’m not sure I can be bothered.
What do you mean ‘this thread is about shidduchim’?