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A Modern chossid, where are you coming from???
I think he’s just popped out from under his bridge to say hi to all us billy-goats…
Bendicks Bitter Mints are by far and away the best chocolates ever produced on Planet Earth, and you poor Americans aren’t ever going to get to taste it…
42 – 147, How can you eat cheeesecake while learning Shavuos night? Unless you are in the Southern Hemisphere where the learning is longer than 6 hours. Or perhaps you are yekke and only wait 3.
Or if, like many others, he has a milchig seuda on Leil Shavuos…
Sam2 – I haven’t really gotten involved in this discussion until now, but having gone through the Rashba you brought I took it to be saying exactly the opposite of how you learned it. The last line (which I presume is the crux of your pshat) is talking about yochid (or small group) haragil b’issur, in which case his (or their) continued issurim cannot turn it into a heter for the rabbim so that ein choteh niskar. Now presumably he’s referring to Jews here (otherwise it’s not an issur). The rest of the teshuva says quite explicitly many times that the issurim of beged ish/beged isha is toleh on mokom AND z’man, in other words when the mokom in general at that time does not view something as beged ish/isha it is not. To me trousers (as they are correctly called in English… :-p) are an example of the latter, the world in general across most continents for most of history has seen them as gender-neutral clothes. For a short while in the 17th-19th Centuries in Northern Europe they were seen as predominantly (but not exclusively) beged ish, in which case then and there they would probably have been ossur for women. But seeing as the world in general (especially the places where most Jews tend to live..) nowadays has women wearing trousers, long before any yechidim or small groups within klal yisroel did so, this would not be a case of choteh niskar, as the mokom/zman already dictated that it is not specifically beged ish.
Sorry that was a bit long-winded, hope you understand my understanding of the Rashba…
You don’t have to be evil to work here, but it helps.
modex – So why do you ask if anyone else has bought a pair?
OOM – Try some of the earlier ones too – the great thing about Tom Holt is that he’s so nuts his subject and tonal variety are huge. It might be worth giving ‘Only Human’ a skip though as it will probably make you a bit angry theologically.
And apparently you’re dreaming too as they are not commercially available yet.
HaLeiVi – WIY is talking about the michnasa’im, not the avnet. Frankly, how you can confuse the two astounds me. And I should hope that no-one wrapped any of the bigdei kodesh around any waste whatsoever.
OOM – Just wondering how the Tom Holt is coming along…
Gefen – The establishment (and motto) of The Glorious People’s Republic of Treacle Mine Road.
Justice! Freedom! And a Hard-Bolied Egg!
Sharga18 – People got defensive because your thread title, OP and several comments you made sounded like you were attacking. Most people when attacked will get defensive. If you really do mean what you said in your last post then you have to understand that you need to tone down how you say certain things, they really did come across as confrontational, a bit arrogant and mildly ‘frumer than thou’ proselytizing.
P.S. Mods – Sorry about the previous post that you didn’t let through, I’m not feeling terribly well and was in a bit of a bad mood at the time I wrote it. I said some things I shouldn’t have and that the person they were directed to didn’t deserve… Thanks for not putting it up.
Shraga18 – By your own admission you’re in Eretz Yisrael, by which your latest post would have been at 2am your time. And you have the chutzpah to lecture me about internet addiction and kosherphones. How has having a kosherphone improved your life so much if you’re still posting on internet forums in the middle of the night?
One poster and most of my RL lurker friends know who I am. It’s quite obvious if you know me…
So the why am I not on 3 as I followed up my own follow-up?
Consider yourself duly stickered
She did turn me into a newt once, but I got better
Shraga18 – I’m not even going to dignify that with a response…
True, wasn’t debating that. You can have a sticker if you want, I’m the president so I can give them out…
Yep, Headology (also a direct quote) and how else would people know you’re a witch (not quite a direct quote, but close enough)…
Twice.
Of course you have to wear the hat, how else would people know you’re a witch?
GAW – Granny Weatherwax gives the same s’voro for witches hats, and I cited her in the same thread.
It’s called Headology…
And then there’s the face, you always have to make the face.
computer77 – Telling me to use the internet to see how dangerous the internet is the height of irony… Besides, Google listings are not exactly the epitome of academic reliability are they? And as for addictions as destructive as drugs and alcohol? Well, nicotine, gambling, davar shebieno l’beinoh etc are pretty good starting points I think.
Shraga18 – The difference between you an me is that you read a wikipedia article and I am currently studying for a degree in the subject. In fact a few weeks ago I was doing the research for an assignment that’s coming up for which I spent hours observing the actual physical effects that cocaine and amphetamines have on brains. See there is a huge difference between physical addictions such as nicotine, alcohol or narcotics and psychological addictions such as shopping, gambling etc. To understand why, here’s a bit of (extremely over-simplified) basic background info. The brain has hardwired into its system various response pathways, several of which are loosely-termed ‘reward pathways’, i.e. the brain ‘rewards’ the body by releasing one of several neurotransmitters that create pleasurable sensations when presented with certain stimuli. In physical addictions these pathways are hi-jacked, so-to-speak, by the chemicals in the addictive substance and ‘trick’ the brain into ‘thinking’ that the only way to activate these pathways is through the external substance. In psychological addictions the systems remain pretty much intact but ‘get used’ to being stimulated by certain activities and therefore come to ‘expect’ these activities in order to reactivate the pathways so that the body can get the reward it wants. Therefore these addictions are much lighter and much easier to break than physical addictions, as the latter is now a ‘necessity’ whereas these are only very strong desires.
Even having said all this, you yourself admit to jbaldy that the very existence of internet addiction is “a complex issue being argued about on the highest levels of the psychology profession”, which hardly makes your case that much stronger.
Finally, even if we were sure about internet addiction and were going to run with your alcohol analogy I’m sure you’d agree that not everyone who enjoys the occasional whiskey or a pint or two of beer on a weekend is an alcoholic, so why assume that everyone who prefers a smartphone to a kosherphone is addicted to the internet?
Rav Yehoshua Cohen of Yerushalayim, author of Kerem Yehoshua, can do it and I have personally seen it.
Shraga18 – I’m not really convinced that smartphones can be equated to physical addictions like smoking and alcohol, there actual chemicals are physically rewriting the workings of the brain. Here you just don’t like smartphones.
Why assume everyone’s life would improve by changing to a kosherphone just because yours did? Plenty of people I know went right back to smartphones after having a kosherphone because they were so annoyed by the kosherphone user experience. It’s like everything else, some people benefit, some don’t.
Mazal Tov DaMoshe! Nice of you to offer your services… I have three cousins who are older singles, so if I could ask for a proxy brocho for them… Ta.
iPhone 4S, molto coolio…
I got Nobby’s certificate of belonging to the human race into the Chuck Norris thread…
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/is-chuck-norris-mutar/page/2#post-459564
So thegra walks in to NASA and says “There’s life on other planets, I went to one and it was inhabited by pink elephants with four trunks, six legs and thirty-nine brains who have built a civilization based on roller-coasters.” And NASA turn around and say “That claim sounds a bit farfetched, can you show us some evidence?” To which thegra says “Of course there’s evidence!”. NASA ask him to produce said evidence and thegra says “Try to disprove it ask whoever you want but leave me out of it. I don’t want to get drawn into a long 5 week debate with you. You are the type of organisation that will simply never stop no matter what the other person says or what sources you are shown. I do not have the energy or time to get into a long debate with you here. So kol tov and good bye.”
Hardly credible is it? So why should it be any different when thegra wants us to take the claim that R’ Moshe was mattir issurim d’oraysa seriously without providing evidence?
Hi Joseph.
GAW – Even with 5-letter combos that`s still 11,881,376 possibile combinations (26 to the power 5), should take Joseph a while.
Like Corporal Nobbs, Chuck Norris has a certificate to prove he’s human but for a very different reason…
Technically you can’t run out of random letter combinations as they’d form an infinite series…
“The richness of his talent is equalled only by the paucity of his effort”
I rarely answer shidduch inquiries these days as almost everyone I know is married, but when I did I would always give the “I only answer direct questions” speech before the caller said who they were asking about to ensure that they knew it was not a way of avoiding answering difficult questions. Most people seemed to get it, though I still had a few who asked me things like “what type of boy would you say he is?”…
I would say trust no-one but then you wouldn’t be able to trust me when I say to trust no-one. In which case you could trust whoever you want, including me when I say to trust no-one. In which case you couldn’t trust anyone, including me when I say to trust no-one, etc ad nauseum.
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The Galaxy SIII is a brilliant phone but it’s rather big and slightly awkward to use unless you’re using both hands at once, so a good bet is the SIII mini, same phone just smaller.
GAW –
So you have excluded all those who call fellow Yidden “Reshaim Gemurim” just because the (supposed Reshaim) no longer want to pay for them (the namecallers) to sit and learn (and/or want their children to have a better chance of survival) (certainly not Middos Tovos)?
Middos Tovos is a requirement from the Gemoro, not my own definition. As is well known Chazal call a person who does not have middos tovos to go with his learning a “chamor noseh seforim”.
And you have included those who would create a Rabbah.
How have I done that? Creating a ‘Rabbah’ is outside of even the stretchiest of stretched bounds of Halacha so how is someone who believes in doing so included?
No idea who Rabbi Saul Lieberman was.
It’s smaller on the outside…
GAW – Shall we start with staying within bounds of Halacha (in its diversity, not necessarily the uber-machmir position), not being a kofer/apikores as defined by the Gemoro and Rambam in yad (so not in the modern throwaway sense of either word), having middos tovos and then work from there…
GAW – the point I was making is you are self-defining, doing something you disagree with is not a necessary disqualification. If it was something that was indisputably contrary to being a Talmid Chochom then you’d be correct but from what you said it sounds more like the former (unless you are privy to information others don’t have…)
“That opinion is rejected in the Gemara- bava Basra 15b.”
As is the opinion that he lived biy’mei moshe.
DaasYochid – Just making sure…