Oh my! What memories! I stayed at Yukelson’s one summer. My family mostly stayed in Holiday Bungallows on Strong Road in Ferndale. It was surrounded by blue berry bushes. Esther Sanderovitz a”h (who used to have a wall paper store in BP) would give a slice of blueberry pie to anyone who would bring her a pailful of berries.

Fun Fair was just a short walk away down Old 17.

I also went to Camp Bais Yaakov where the big treat of the week was to go to Julie’s. I was in Camp BY the summer of Woodstock. We woke up Shabbos morning and the place was full of HIPPIES who nebach were looking for a bathroom or some food. We didn’t go to Julie’s that Motzai Shabbos. We were tightly locked down that night.

Who remembers Melman’s Flaishig restaurant in Woodburn?

My friend still goes to Ganz. The bungallows there are older than everyone here put together!

CP2, your job as a parent is to explain things to a child. Therefore explain how it was make believe. Following your logic, camps can only have plays where ALL the character are the same gender as the campers. I am in my 50s, and we had mock weddings when I went to camp. We all grew up ok.

For your childrens sake, relax a bit and learn to parent.

Hacham, that may be the literal meaning but the word intermarriage connotes something else.

I’ve been told by a family memember that this was not issued by the Kletzky family. Not only isn’t it the kind of thing they would say, but Mrs. Kletzky doen’st use her first name. She usually uses her middle name.

I just got a new wig from Claire Accuhair. They have something new that is less expensive. Gloria cut it for me. I am getting so many compliments. I didn’t know what I wanted and she was so patiant. She does cut wigs bought elsewhere. I think they are on vacation now. 718-998-6043

The problem with the cell phone is that perhaps his mother wouldn’t be home. He knew his phone number but his mother was out looking for him. By staying in a public place like a store, a child is most likely safe because usually the child wouoldn’t be alone with an adult in a store. It is very public. Standing on a corner dialing a phone doesn’t sound to me any safer. Besides, can you hear the g’shrai when cell phones are given out to 9 year olds? My sons’ hs didn’t let them have cell phones for any reason.

Unfortunatally, you can’t prevent every tragedy. You can teach your children NEVER to get into a car with ANYONE they don’t know no matter how frum the person looks.

The problem is that it is easy to point a finger at a very visible avaira like lack of tznius but harder to see other avairos. Those require change on a institutional lever i.e. schools, education about midos etc. Many of those require introspection as opposed to just telling someone else to be better.

As I originally said, I think it is a lessening of the fight against the yaitzer hara. I still think that each person should look into themselves, difficult as it might be, and try to change.

There is no good time. It will always be painful. Obviously, don’t do it right before a yom tov. They probably have an idea that something is coming if it is very slow.

Hatzlacha raba for you and all your employees.

My mother-in-law was a great woman. She didn’t meddle. When she thought her son was at fault for something, she said something to him. She was a friend to me. I enjoyed her company. She was generous. She didn’t always agree with how her daughters-in-law brought up their children but she never contradicted them in front of their children. She was an amazing very special woman and I miss her.

I always encourage newly weds to think about a marrage councelor if they have a problem. Too many people don’t beleive in therapy and dont go until they can’t stand to look at each other.

I look at a therapist like I would a doctor. There are great ones and bad ones. You have to ask around.

For all of those looking down at YI: Back in the 30s and 40s, the assimilation rate was terrible. Many younger people thought that Yiddishkeit was for “old” people. YI came and made it “cool” to be frum. They were called YOUNG Israel to push that point. My mother-in-law who is almost 84, was born in NY and says that if not for the YI movement, there would be no Yiddishkeit in America. Perhaps she was exagerating, but not by much. Young Israel gave the kids a place. Young children are encouraged to participate in the davening i.e. a boy being called up at the end to sing Adon Olam.

The question, philosopher, is are accomplishing something or just talking lashon hara? If all you are doing is arguing and ranting about what “they” (usually women) are doing, then it is lashon hara plain and simple.

I don’t know how you get people to dress more tzniusdik but judging from the language and the tones here, I don’t think anyone would be inspired to change their dress by reading things here.

Again, it is amazing how often the CR ends up as a place to say how awful women are and how they are stopping Moshiach from coming. Amazing how you poor, unfortunate men have to put up with the likes of us.

I use the screen name “Just Me” becaues I realized that that is the only person I can change. I do my thing and I try to live in a way that would give nachas to the Rebonon Shel Olam, my Tatte, and try to just ignore the bad that many other people do. I do what I can for kiruv (I’ve been involved with Project:Yes, Aish HaTorah and Partners in Torah) but in the end, I think being a good Jew and showing that you can be frum and not obnoxious is the only way.

philosopher, who really reads the Yeshiva World? Probably not the people who would benefit or listen to any bodies rants. Does anyone here seriously think that a woman who wear skirts that aren’t up to the coffee room’s esteemed oiylem’s standard is going to change because of the posts here? When you rant here, you are pretty much “preaching to the choir”. With business ethics, too many people have no clue what they are doing that are wrong. Cases in point, the person who bargined until my profit margin was almost nil because they claimed they were going to buy a few of the items. She bought 2 right away and was supposed to call and tell me what size the other would be. When I finally called her, she said she couldn’t buy because her husband lost his part-time job and was in kollel the rest of the time. These are your ethics? That was GEZAILA. I forgive the woman because she did taught me not to trust in business. A good lesson worth the money. The people who threatened my family (and I heard many others)think that they are protecting this “fine” frum organization so it is mutar. Do you think THEY would even recognize themselves if they even read it?

Rants here are good for getting things off your chest. They are also sometimes amusing to write or to read. I don’t think they are productive besides that.

I am glad, though, to see that some people agreed with my post.

Well, we will be going away for the dinner meals. For the lunch meals, we generally have fish to start then one or two different kinds of meat that I make before Yom Tov. I take it out of the fridge before I go to shul so it is room temp by the time we get home. Side dishes usually are either kigels or some kind of vegi that can slow cook while we are in shul, like butternut or kabuki squash roasting in a slow oven or string beans slow cooking on the stove.

Dessert is either melon or baked apple.

What ever you do, don’t get too uptight about the meal. It isn’t worth it.

Some teachers are just as guilty. There was a boy in my son’s class who was a handful. His last name was Shener (nicer in Yiddish). The teacher would get frustrated and call him Moishe Erger (worse). Yes, I did complain to the pricipal about it.

Perhaps the answer to what the NCYI does would best be answered by someone in the organization. I’m sure Agudaniks would raise the roof if I were to suggest that all I see the Aguda doing is keeping the children busy for 2 hours on Shabbos afternoons and making a weekend destination one Shabbos a year.

Talking about redundency, let’s have the 2 Satmars merge. That would propably save money on heating 2 shuls, schools etc. Oh, sorry, been there, done that, didn’t work.

I think some ” out of towners” don’t understand NY. In Boro Park or Flatbush, a 2 bedroom apartment usually goes for about $1300. 3 bedrooms are about $1800. We aren’t not talking about mansions here. It’s also not terribally cheaper further out. Also, will the school send buses furthor out?

I would say that most women work these days. Frum baby sitters could run up to $10/hour. For women who are paid minimum wages, well, you figure it out. Does it pay for her to work? Oh, and what kind of frum upbringing are all these children getting from the baby sitters? Just asking.

Back to the issue. There aren’t 100 girl’s schools of equal hashkafos in the Brooklyn area. I dont think there are 100 girls schools in Brooklyn at all. My brother-in-law is an administrator in a small Bais Yakov. The classes are already about 30 girls/class. You want to put more in there and expect them to learn? Our schools are crowded because most schools DO cut costs by having one less paralel class and by not building.

Bottom line, as I see it, many parents have lost jobs recently with the economic downturn. I go into stores and I see less customers which translates into stores losing money which translates into layoffs or being paid less. Or stores not being able to pay at all. The economic downturn means that the big donors who have taken big hits don’t have money to donate like they used to. Some people insinuate that the parents of BYOB don’t want to pay. I look at empty stores and I can tell you that for the most part I don’t beleive that is the case. People are hurting. To pay more tuition when you can barely pay for rent, food and utilities makes no sense to me. Home schooling for everyone is impractical. Most parent can’t do it and besides, most women work.

The answer? I’m not sure. It would certainly help if everyone in Brookly sent in some money. Your own school goes first, but this is pretty important. I don’t really have an answer. I think we have a lot of devening to do this Rosh Hashana. Hashem should watch over us and help us.

Sorry that this is so long.

I was just there last week and got the greatest chair. I guess I will boycott now.

Seriously, boycott might be a good idea, but t’shuva is probably a better one–and I don’t just mean that everyone should start yelling about tznius as usual. Eisov is only strong when Yaakov is weak.

Westcoast, while you don’t want to get into religious discussions, if a not-frum Jew asks a serious question, it can be an opportunity to do some kiruv. If you don’t know an answer, Aish HaTorah recomends: Great question! I don’t know that answer but I can find out.

Your ruchnius is the main concern, but be aware that you are probably being watched so make sure to carry yourself in a way that will make a kidush Hashem.

You have to think of a therapist as a doctor. You don’t have to tell a prospective shidduch about a strep throat or pnemonia, but you do in a case like cancer (even if it was long ago) or anything that may come up later or affect the marriage. The same is with a therapist. If a child had an accident and was having problems dealing with it, that is minor and I don’t think it’s nessasery to tell. If the child had to be put on medication (unless he/she was off for many years) I think that must be told. I think our community has to realize the worth of therapy.

About the English Muffins, when my daughter was in Gateshead, the rabbi there had no clue what English muffins were. If they have them in England, the Brits call them something else.

Camp also seemed have changed A LOT from my days! I learned how to pick locks with bobby pins. I learned a lot of silly songs (including the Black Socks one). In high school, we sang about a Boa Constrictor. Love that one!

Feivel, you have to drink an insane amount of water before it will kill you.

I always have vegtable soup befor the fast. I’m thinking to make a lockshin kigle type of thiing to go with it.

SJS, don’t most people have maternity leave when they have a baby? Are you planning to deliver in 7 business day? I’m puzzled.

I feel good today because a close relative was in a minor accident and everyone is ok. Just bangs and bruises all around. Hashem truly blessed me.

PEOPLE!! It’s the 9 days! This line DOESN’T smell fishy to me! Oomis, can you come up with fishy puns? I trout and I trout but I couldn’t.

Goldieloxx, you are funny.

Aish.com tells people who submit kvitlach via email that that alone isn’t enough. They also suggest you give tzadaka (hopefully to them).

I would imagine the idea behine these is that Jews should feel conected even if they arn’t in Isreal or planning a trip.