Joseph

Think BIG:

Its funny you mention that regarding Chaim Berlin. Chaim Berlin has its “chasidishe” minhugim (Rav Hutner wore a Spudik, and came from Ger chasidis heritage); and Torah V’daas of course is technically “chasidish” (Nusach Sfard, Reb Shraga Feivel…) So at least two of the most “litvish” associated major Yeshivos have strong “chasidish” affiliations!

cherrybim, You may have legitimate sources for your position, but what Zalman said certainly has a factual basis in poiskim (even if you know of a different psak.)

Berliner –

As is typical, you failed to address the points that were raised. But that is entirely understandable, since you have no logical factual response so you revert to your unreadable run-on hogwash.

YOU referred to the aforementioned Tzadikim as “Zionists.” Of course that is a lie. If anyone asked them if they were Zionists, they would’ve become sick at the thought someone could even ask such a question. And you know that.

And of course you brought no sources, as requested, that the aforementioned Tzadikim supported CONTROLLING (governmentally) Eretz Yisroel, as opposed to the age-old yearning by all Jews (non-zionists) to SETTLE in Eretz Yisroel. The reason you brought no sources, is because you have no sources. And the reason you have no sources, is because there are no such sources. And the reason there are no such sources, is because (as you are intuitively aware) IT IS SHEKER.

Why button hole Yidden into sub-groups, each with their own name?

A Yid is a Yid. I don’t believe in all these silly names and sub-groups like Ultra-Orthodox, Modern-Orthodox, Chareidi, Chiloni, etc. (Even “Orthodox” is silly.)

jphone:

Here is re: the men’s Asifa:

AUDIO & PHOTOS: Thousands Attend Lakewood’s Tznius Asifa

Here is re: the women’s Asifa:

AUDIO: Thousands of Women Attend Lakewood’s Tznius Asifa

And yes, like you said “Tznius is very much a mens issue as well.” Men must be tznius themselves, as well as insure that heir wives and daughters are tznius.

For those claiming a tzinius problem with the Mitzvah Tantz, you should be aware that many Litvishe Rabbonim (including, as mentioned above, Rav Aaron Schechter, RY Yeshivas Chaim Berlin) hold that the Choson/Kalla hold hands beween the Chupa and the Yichud room. So if it isn’t a problem there, you can’t say (when there are far less people — usually family — than at the Chupa) theres a tzinius problem at the Mitzvah Tantz.

Pashuteh, There has been no acrimonious splits in Brisk. Please get your facts straight before spewing any vitriol loshon hora. As far as factions that have had splits, all of Klal Yisroel has experienced acrimonious splits since galus started. (Beis Hillel/Beis Shammai as well as less noble splits with Tzidukim, Karaites, Reform, etc.) Its a tzara we have unfortunately always have had to deal with. (And btw, how many multiple times have your zionists buddies split. Count them. They’ve been splitting one faction with another throughout their history.)

Feif Un:

Regarding the halacha requiring a Yid to wear a jacket and hat for davening and bentching, I believe it is derived from Chullin 138, from a discussion of the Kohein Gadol’s turban (the mitznefes). Also see the Shulchan Aruch O”Ch 282:2. Mishnah Berurah 8:4, citing the Ba”ch, requires two head covering for all of davening.

(Rav Herschel Schachter cites the Pishchei Teshuvah who in turn cites the Shlah that it is necessary from the point of view of atifah, being cloaked while being aware of G-d’s presence.)

Think BIG: If giving tochacha has a chance of making an impact, it should be given to a man ow a woman. Regardless of which halachic issue is at hand (tzinius, Shabbos, Kashrus, etc.)

A convert no longer is a child of his biological parents.

It is inappropriate for a Jew to be close to a non-Jew. That is the reason a Jew can’t drink wine a non-Jew

jphone – The Chasidim are notably unpicky oon who they accept into their Yeshivos, and are particularly makpid in making sure every child is in a Yeshiva (even if they can’t pay a dime in tuition.)

Wolf,

Lets ask of you, what you asked of others. What is YOUR source as to what is the longest known coma in medical history, as you claimed above?

Pashuteh –

The glass house bit, you are alluding to, is a non-Jewish concept. You are trying to deduce that it is improper for ANYONE to correct anyone else, “since no one is perfect.” In Torah Judaism, a Yid is OBLIGATED to give tochacha. You, like so many other mitzvos, would like that repealed and reformed.

If Judaism ever finished reforming itself to your specifications, there would be nothing left of it. In fact, the “Reform” and “Conservative” movements are just that.

Yes, yes, I know, how dare you be corrected. How “kanaish.”

The Hocker, You put it quite well.

Which shul do you daven at?

Pashuteh Yid –

Your examples are “compromises” of hiddurs, that if you can’t do (i.e. afford the nicest Esrog) you have no such obligation. THERE IS NO COMPROMISING OF HALACHA.

cantoresq –

Your comment is so far beyond the pale of Torah Judaism, it is hardly worthy of a response. Nevertheless anyone that claims, as you did, that you can EVER “take the Torah with a grain of salt” is, I’m sorry to have to tell you, a Koifer gomer. The Torah is 100% EMES. EVERY LETTER IN THE TORAH IS 100% TRUTH.

Feif Un, They were general examples (in response to cantoresq) and not specific quotes. My point was theoretical.

BTW, a serial mechallel shabbos could be forced by beis din to keep Shabbos. The same with any halacha.

teeenof13,

You bring up some good points. One idea is that the correct “family day” should be Shabbos Kodesh. The Shabbos Seudas is an important time for family interaction.

One crucial detail I omitted from the maaise, was the reason the son refrained from responding at the timeof the incident was in order to maintain Kibud Av. But taking the father to Beis Din, is not in contradiction with Kibud Av.