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JosephParticipant
How do I know he doesn’t eat chazar?
How do I know he doesn’t beat his wife?
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JosephParticipant“clever but you avoid the point.”
There was no point.
JosephParticipantI enjoy Mazal’s post. Its well worth the read!
Please post ’em all!
JosephParticipantSJS, how do I know you are not a Shabtai Tzvi??
November 11, 2008 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm in reply to: The Democrat Party & Its Anti-Semite Sidekicks #642649JosephParticipantCharlie,
Every one of the aforementioned Anti-Semite Democrat politicians left office on their own volition (or in Mckinney’s situation by voters decree.)
None of them were marginalized by the Democrat Party. As long as they remained in office, they were honored and welcomed by the Democrat Party, and by the various Democrat Congressional Caucuses.
And Anti-Semites Sharpton and Jackson, who have both run (and lost) for elected office on the Democrat line, too were AND ARE long honored and welcomed by the Democrat Party.
JosephParticipant“Really? What if doing so constituted a 180 degree reversal of your conduct on a d’Oraita issue?”
Follow his psak.
“I have a VERY hard time believeing that you are so sanguine about such things.”
Its more than believing. Its LIVING it.
JosephParticipant“I would never do something that all poskim unanimously prohibit.”
That isn’t saying much.
(And with that philosophy, you could pretty much do almost whatever you want — you’ll always be able to find and pick some “Rabbi” somewhere that allows you to do whatever you want.
In fact there is new computer program developed in Israel. Its called Shailos & Teshuvos. It has 3 steps. Step 1, you type is your shaila. Step 2, you type in the teshuva YOU want. Step 3, it produces the name of a Rabbi that agrees with your teshuva.)
JosephParticipantPashuteh, there is NO Jewish gov’t in the Zionist State.
November 11, 2008 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm in reply to: Important Announcement for Lakewood Residents! #624781JosephParticipantOrthodoxy is the only form of Judaism. The reformist, conservatist and reconstructionist are anything but Judaism. Their house of worship are nothing but glorified Church’s that a Jew is forbidden to enter.
JosephParticipant“And were he to begin issuing psakim you found odious (i.e. were he to being relying on kulot he never relied upon before and with which you disagree) what would you do?”
I would follow his psak.
JosephParticipantGMAB:
Many murderers wore pants too.
You clearly just want to yak and stretch out this conversation by saying the most ridiculous things.
jf02:
Do you “pick and choose” a different sage for every issue, to meet your liking and approval? Or do you take one posek and follow him regardless of whether you agree or not.
You quote Rav Kook. Rav Kook also opposed women wearing pants (see his Sefer) and opposed women voting.
JosephParticipantcantoresq: “Joseph please tell me how you came to chose your “poisek?” Was it not because his approach to things resonates with you as true? You choose to follow who you WANT to follow.”
Not at all. Before I was married, I simply used my fathers poisek. After I got married, my Rebbe from my Yeshiva (which my parents placed me in) advised me who to use as a poisek — and I use ad hayom hazeh.
JosephParticipantAhh cantoresq, this is where you and I differ. If MY sense of reasonableness differs from my poisek, I accept his psak nevertheless, and I don’t discard it due to MY sense of otherwise.
November 10, 2008 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm in reply to: Important Announcement for Lakewood Residents! #624777JosephParticipantarc, I like the way you *** that out.
November 10, 2008 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm in reply to: Racism is Proven Dead. Lets Kill Reverse Racism. #645573JosephParticipantgmab, Since you said you sometimes don’t read a comment ot article before responding to it, I cannot blame you for overlooking that in the initial post to this thread, I said “institutionally” racism is dead, but that exceptions exist. The institutional racism that continues, is reverse racism against white fellows.
JosephParticipantBereishis:
“Let us make man… and he will rule over the animals, and all living creatures of the earth.”
PETA founder Ingrid Newkirk articulates its credo: “A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. There is no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights.”
JosephParticipantIn Bereishis Rabba (9:4) two Sages offer parables for the verse (Bereishis 1:31), “And G-d saw all that He had done, and behold, it was very good,” as follows:
Rabbi Yonasan said: [It may be compared to] a king who married off his daughter and made a canopy and a house for her, and he plastered it and paneled it and painted it; he saw it and it was pleasing to him. He said to her: My daughter, may this canopy display grace before me at all times, just as you have displayed grace before me at this time.
In a similar vein he interprets God’s blessing to Adam and his wife following their creation in verse 28:
JosephParticipantI’ll have my steak.
JosephParticipantPerhaps this thread would be more accurately titled:
“Post-Election Obama Threat”
November 10, 2008 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm in reply to: Racism is Proven Dead. Lets Kill Reverse Racism. #645569JosephParticipantCharlie, Which race and which exit poll is that based on?
And lets assume they are, blacks on a NATIONWIDE basis voted 95% for Obama. Try telling anyone THAT isn’t a result of race-based voting by blacks for blacks.
JosephParticipantDon’t you mean the Left Honorable Pashuteh Yid?
JosephParticipantok ok ok, I’ll let you off easy.
This time.
Next time you’ll have to make sufficient quantity, to take into consideration the entire oilem.
Now on with the recipe…
JosephParticipantI’m sure your fruit salad will be well worth the trip from New York to Australia…
JosephParticipantnah nah nah, thats no excuse. After wetting our collective appetites, the least you can do is make us a treat…
November 10, 2008 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm in reply to: Important Announcement for Lakewood Residents! #624772JosephParticipantjf02, If someone “walks” into your unlocked house at 3 AM, with everyone sound asleep, would you not consider that a break-in?
JosephParticipantsmartcookie, You really owe us all a little taste of your delicacy…
November 10, 2008 4:31 am at 4:31 am in reply to: The Democrat Party & Its Anti-Semite Sidekicks #642644JosephParticipantThis is the fundamental difference between the Republicansand the Democrats. The Democrats welcome their anti-semites and make them at home with ful honors, while the Republicans ostricize and dismiss any in their midst.
JosephParticipantnow?
JosephParticipantmazal77: Beautiful words.
JosephParticipantYasher Koach eyesopen, for sharing that!
JosephParticipantoomis, no, certainly not. There is no requirement that a woman wear an ugly wig or an otherwise distasteful covering.
JosephParticipantcoolest, all I did was quote from the Torah. Which part specificly didn’t you like?
JosephParticipantanon, criticize what? And which part of the Torah?
JosephParticipantcoolest, I’m sorry if the Torah offends you, and quotes directly from the Torah drives you crazy. P.S. The Torah quotes do not bash women.
JosephParticipantsqueak, I did enjoy your comment.
jf02, Don’t start bad habits. Whats the mitzvah of drinking coffee?
JosephParticipantBtw cantorsq, Even if we assume for a moment that your interpretation AND recollection of what you say is the Chazon Ish’s position IS correct, are you saying you accept the positions of the Chazon Ish across the board, or only where it suits you — and you will pick and choose responsa from various scholars that meet YOUR liking, for every different question?
In other words, if for example I show you a teshuva from the Chazon Ish that states that one must wear a hat and jacket during the entire course of davening and bentching, with a minyan or without, will you accept it and start following it (if you aren’t already), or will you find another shitta to your suiting for that circumstance and disregard the Chazon Ish’s position in that case?
JosephParticipantoomis, see this post for source references regarding the Biblical requirement for a married woman to cover hair:
snippet:
“According to Torah law, married women must cover their hair whenever they are outside their home. A woman who fails to do so forfeits her kesubah and should technically be divorced by her husband (Kesuvos 72a; E.H. 115:1-4). Mishnah Berurah 75:14 and Beiur Halachah say it must even be covered inside the home.”
JosephParticipantSJS, It may well be less than 10 years. Nevertheless, whenever this unfortunate activity debuted, it began in small numbers – mainly amongst those who follow every fad and trend – and from there unfortunately spread to others. So its being used in large numbers, may be of more recent vintage.
JosephParticipantI think (and correct me if I am mistaken) that the phenomenon of real looking wigs (that are indistinguishable from real hair) has become popularized only relatively recently (roughly the last 10 years, give or take.)
JosephParticipantyoshi, Icouldn’t take that as a challange! 🙂 All I did was quote Sefer HaChinuch, not offer any chiddushim of my own.
You are correct, about not embarrassing someone. But (as a point of comparison) the Torah also says you shouldn’t kill someone (one of the 10 commandments.) Yet, under certain circumstances (i.e. someone who violates Shabbos), the Torah demands that we kill such a person.
Here too. The Sefer HaChinuch says that you should give tochacha privately and with love. If after exhausting all such attempts the sinner remains obstinate and refuses to mend their ways, the Sefer HaChinuch says you must publicly embarrass the sinner in the hopes that will prompt them to repent.
(Again, this is not my own sevora.)
JosephParticipantThe requirements to give Tochachah are:
1) You have to first assess that there is at least a reasonable possibility of the person listening to you. (Sometimes there are Halachic ways of assessing this.)
2) You have to give the Tochachah in a non-aggressive manner, and never in front of people.
3)You have to make the person understand that the only reason you are giving him the Tochachah is because you care about him, and it is for his good, so that he can get Olam Habah.
It also says in Sefer HaChinuch perek 239 that you should give someone tochacha privately and in a nice way; but if they don’t listen to you, then you should embarrass them in public so that they will do teshuvah.
JosephParticipantarc, Per Sefer HaChinuch perek 239 EVERY Jew is required to give tochacha. And per Sefer HaChinuch perek 239 if the person continues to sin after nice and private tochacha, the person giving the tochacha is required to publicly embarrass the sinner.
JosephParticipantcantoresq, we are still going on what you think you remember. Your having a recollection of remembering seeing it does it inspire much confidence without a mekor, when in all likelihood you may have misinterpreted it and/or misremember.
(My last comment was directed at the other posters.)
JosephParticipantTochchacha REQUIRES that you tell the person she is doing wrong. Sefer HaChinuch perek 239 says that if after giving tochacha in a nice and private way they continue their action, you are required to publicly embarrass them for sinning.
JosephParticipant…according to what you think you recall.
According to that tochacha would practically never be done, as how would you ever KNOW with certainty (except possibly in the most rare circumstance), and it would become merely an academic point.
November 6, 2008 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm in reply to: Racism is Proven Dead. Lets Kill Reverse Racism. #645547JosephParticipantarc, though thats part of the reverse racism I refer too. Exit polls indicate it was 95%. If 95% of whites votes their race, you can be sure as the sun shines that every pundit would be decrying white racism.
November 6, 2008 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm in reply to: Racism is Proven Dead. Lets Kill Reverse Racism. #645545JosephParticipantarc, true.
JosephParticipantcantoresq, the assumption you are making is that the sinner would not heed the tochacha. Why assume that?
JosephParticipantcookies?
JosephParticipantcantoresq, whats the mekor for that? I’d like to see that to believe it.
And you haven’t addressed why you assume if another woman gave her tochacha, she would be non-responsive. Especially on the eating non-kosher, let alone the lack of tznius.
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