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So illini07 will leave a loaded gun on his dining room table; if he comes back in a couple of years alive to tell us about it, we’ll all be happily surprised for him. Until then, he is rolling the dice.
You certainly got the wrong impression. Richness is never defined in terms of financial wealth. Usually the richest people are the most unhappiest. The happiest people, tend to be those financially considered ”unwealthy.”
I find Feivel’s quotes quite inspiring.
brooklyn, that might be hard, but at least it isn’t 100 sisters!
By unanimous consensus, “The Coffee Room” agrees that cellular phones in the hands of the young, are worse than the great plague.
How did this generations parents manage to survive high school without a mobile phone?
dhi: what makes you think I have so many brothers?
Queen:
Any good news to follow-up from your issue presented in the Random Questions thread? (Surely this IS tachlis.)
Moderator-72, If I may interject myself here for a moment to offer an opinion, I do think this conversation is worthwhile and has not been covered in as great detail on any previous thread — and is surely worthwhile to continue. This is my perspective.
dhi – 1. he couldn’t be certain to have correctly ID’d them, unless he was one. 2. he couldn’t be certain others have not correctly ID’d them, unless he was one. 3. he stated he wasn’t one.
mdlevine, do you still require any technical assistance with the Google Docs?
squeak, The only way for you to know that, is if you are a mod.
Gantz fein.
Jewess,
The rule of thumb is if its red, its a no-no.
The penalty for Chillul Shabbos. Period.
Unfortunately we do not have Beis Din that can ENFORCE it today, with eidim and hasraa, but the LAW is still the same.
And ANY kiruv worker will tell EVERY Baal Teshuva (including very new) NOT TO DRIVE ON SHABBOS, and better miss minyan.
ROB: We must’nt break the code of the Bonesmen made in the tomb.
Can we just get the FBI in on this to solve it conclusively, once and for all?
Now I’m really busted. I’ll have to come up with a new one.
Editor, When was I fired? Is it because I let rabbiofberlin’s questionable message get posted? I’ll be more careful next time!
cantoresq, To insure clarity, essentially the point (or one of them) is thus:
YOUR information on what the Gedolim based a certain action upon (that you claim was disinformation fed to the Gedolim by their trusted advisors), is misinformation. YOU heard that “Godol Aleph” received “Information X” (that is clearly disinformation.) But the grapevine where YOU heard that Information X was fed to the Godol is false.
(Additionally, remember that the Gedolim choose who to trust as their advisors, and what information — that they are given — is indeed accurate. I would certainly trust their judgment that they are confident information they are told is accurate prior to acting upon it. Remember, they are Gedolim, and you can be sure they take all these considerations into account.)
cantoresq:
1 & 2. I understood notpashut to mean that the information YOU heard on the grapevine about how the Gedolim treated any certain matter (R’ Lamm, Schmeltzer, etc.) is just that; grapevine and half-inaccuracies. So YOUR assumption the Gedolim based ANYTHING on misinformation, is just your assumptions based on what you heard on the grapevine.
3. That heavenly “signal” is far more likely to reach a Godol than a Koton (like ourselves.)
4. Sure there are disparities of opinion amongst Gedolim. YOU just follow YOUR Rov.
Am I gonna get anymore votes?
Editor, we need to talk about a raise. I’ve been working overtime deleting many kefiradika and apikursidika comments, especially made by commenter [DELETED BY JOSEPH-100: EVEN YOU — I MEAN ME — ARE PROHIBITED FROM LOSHON HORA/NAMING NAMES!]
(Reminder to #72 & 99: Don’t forget to delete all critical comments of me that are sure to follow this message.)
dveykus613,
Firstly, thank you much for the very kind words. If this is indeed the extent of your disagreement, we are not only on the same page (and line), but in fact on the very same word! You are a member of what the Gipper (a/k/a the Great Communicator, Ronaldus Magnus) would call the silent majority. I am glad too you found one slight area you may disagree with, otherwise Ed Koch would have us see a shrink for agreeing with each other all the time. 🙂
But to the point. You asked if this is applicable to all Torah She’baal Peh, and the answer is yes. In fact there are even limitations of Torah She’bicsav. You ask for the source. There are many. But its in fact a bfeirush SHULCHAN ORACH (Yoreh Deah siman 246 sif 6.)
This is a long thread and it seems you just came across it. I dealt with your question previously at greater length, with a reposting of a commenter’s post from a previous thread. You can read it here:
Charles R. Darwin: Welcome back GMAB. (Btw, you’ve previously made the same comment under your other screen name, regarding the ads on YW.)
Did you get your drivers permit yet?
notpashut,
Yasher Koach for defending THE TORAH.
Physical beauty comes after many other priorities on the shidduch shopping list. Notably spiritual beauty.
They need to be advised not to come to shul on Shabbos if they will drive.
Chillul Shabbos is a capital offense. The penalty for violating Shabbos is death. We NEVER encourage Chillul Shabbos in order to come to shul.
Truehonesty, Yasher Koach.
ICOT,
Thank you for standing up for Kavod HaTorah and Emes.
The International Red Cross were in cahoots with the Nazi’s YM’S.
Smoking is the sign of a baal gaaiva.
We can make a Google Docs shared spreadsheet that we update as people sign-up and as people finish they can so indicate.
Who needs Hebrew skills when Yiddish works just fine, and its actually a Jewish language. (Not made up by apikorsum.)
How about posting a timestamp in the coffee room instead of X days ago.
cantoresq, are you the only branch of the family that is non-conforming?
000, and you can make an even bigger mistake deciding who to marry.
AY: I’m sworn to secrecy. So is the good Rabbi. Its a mutual pact.
gaw: The quoted Shulchan Aruch does not say what you imply.
squeak, The Great Famine of 1845 (in Ireland.)
The real question regarding all these anecdotes of Yidden ordering non-kosher products, and being informed so by the Starbucks employee, is why is he ordering something he isn’t absolutely 100% certain is kosher — and is in fact not.
He is correct.
Shulchan Aruch, Yore Deah, 246:1
Someone who finds it insufficient to study on his own, either because he
is incapable or because he is loaded with too many other commitments
should financially support those who have dedicated themselves to
studying Torah.
And also see the Rema there, the Shach there, and the Biur HaGra there.
I agree with chaimss. That would be a very useful feature (email subscription to comments), and is easily implemented with a free WordPress plugin.
yankdownunder, Pressburg was very strongly Orthodox. It was of course under the tutelage of the Chasam Sofer, who strongly fought the reformers.
grappling: granted, but lacking those specifications described, going for the money is bound to lead to trouble and regret.
Precisely, the Status Quo didn’t have any particular common beliefs, as they were just any kehila that didn’t want to join a larger organized movement that was essentially fostered upon Hungarian Jewry after the “emancipation” in 1867. I take it that you were one of the hundreds of worshipers in the Dohany, for you to know their size, that Shabbos morning?
cantoresq, By Rav S.R. Hirsch supporting Hungarian Orthodoxy’s position, does not demonstrate any “implication” (your words) that his approach in Germany failed. It merely demonstrates that he felt it important to extend this principle across Orthodoxy worldwide. Additionally, you are fond of (correctly) repeating that there is no truth in numbers (i.e. being numerically larger doesn’t demonstrate being right), so even if most of German Orthodoxy didn’t follow Rav Hirsch in seceding (I don’t know the veracity of this), it would not demonstrate the correctness of his position.
Regarding the Status Quo Ante, they were merely an agglomeration of varied interests, and not any coherent or even organized group. Many Chasidic Kehilas, Debrecin included, were Status Quo. As time passed some of them formally joined organized Orthodoxy in Hungary.
As far as the Neolog, they’ve all but disappeared (something that DOES demonstrate their falseness.) They still have a large temple in Budapest, that may seat thousands, but I’d wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t have a minyan on Shabbos.
Again, lesschumras asked why so many people in Klal Yisroel seek to marry young. I explained that this praiseworthy approach has been the barometer in Klal Yisroel for time immemorial. I referred him to the aforementioned meforshim, etc. to explain this. I am not saying he must necessarily marry his children at 18. Ask your LOR.
tzippi, far dritten ul, I just referred to the aforementioned Mishna’s, Gemora’s, Shulchan Orach, etc. For practical questions, please refer to YOUR LOR.
asdfghjkl, Dublin?
lesschumras, I just referred you to Pirkei Avos, the Gemora, Rambam, Tur, Shulchan Aruch and Even HaEzer.
intellegent, I normally only add vanilla flavoring.