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jewishfeminist02Member
Wow, that’s such an incredibly sad story, particularly since it seems like it should have been caught much earlier. Is your friend suing for malpractice? Of course, it won’t help Hazel get better, but I’m sure this treatment is expensive, and I can’t imagine why her situation wasn’t taken seriously from the outset. It’s scary to know that a chest x-ray, such a simple procedure, was not performed when it should have been.
Refuah sheleimah. I will absolutely keep her in my thoughts and prayers.
(BTW- how old is this child? She sounds quite young.)
jewishfeminist02Member“The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously.” -Hubert Humphrey
And since we seem to be posting scientific stuff…
“The IPCC also finally nails the canard of the climate sceptics who argue that global warming is a myth or the result of natural climate variability; natural factors alone cannot account for the observed warming, the IPCC says. These changes took place at a time when non-anthropogenic forcing factors (i.e. the sum of solar and volcanic forcing) would be expected to have produced cooling, not warming.” -The Independent
jewishfeminist02MemberWelcome!
jewishfeminist02MemberPasta with fresh herbs and tomato sauce is an easy and delicious choice. There are many good pareve soups that can supplement the meal if pasta is not filling enough. A few that come to mind are mushroom soup, split pea soup, and sweet potato soup. Salads and fresh vegetables are also healthy additions to any meal, and hard boiled eggs add protein.
jewishfeminist02MemberYanky55, probably not. But I don’t like changing quoted material, and if I quote a sentence that has a grammatical error, I like to include the (sic) so as to indicate that the mistake was made by the original poster and not by me. A couple of people here have indicated that they felt offended by this, but it’s an MLA standard practice. I’m a writer, so I have ingrained grammatical sensibilities and perfectionist standards when it comes to correct usage of language, syntax, and grammar. Just today, I was in a class on Megillat Rut and the teacher misspelled the word “protagonist” as “protaganist”. I raised my hand and politely corrected her. She shrugged and continued teaching without rewriting the word on the board. My eyes kept darting back to the word every few minutes for the rest of class. It’s just a weird personal quirk, but I get very annoyed by these things.
Anyway, I think we are going in circles again. Abcd, I think you said it best, and I’m not going to say any more on this subject.
November 29, 2008 8:20 pm at 8:20 pm in reply to: ***CHALLAH GROUP**** in zchus of the people in Mumbai #640751jewishfeminist02MemberBoruch Dayan HaEmet for Gavriel Noach and his wife Rivka; however, they are survived by their two-year-old Moshe. May he be taken in by a loving adoptive family and grow up to be a tzaddik and talmid chacham.
I was at the Kotel on Friday night and said some Tehillim. Let’s keep saying Tehillim and baking challah in zchut of those who are still recovering from their wounds, and those who are no longer with us. May they be received warmly at the Heavenly Gate.
jewishfeminist02MemberThis is an excerpt from an article by R’ Yitzchak Breitowitz (the italics are mine):
This would simply be a standard presentation of a talmudic dispute if not for the statement of the gemara in Eiruvin 13 saying that Rabbi Meir and Rabbi Nehorai are the same person!
[and still learn Torah seriously]? What will become of the Torah? Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai is forced to limit the verse to when the Jews are not serving G-d properly and must fend for themselves agriculturally.
jewishfeminist02MemberAish.com is a particularly helpful resource. I found this article by R’ Shaul Rosenblatt on the question of free will as relates to Parshat Toldot:
http://www.aish.com/torahportion/straightTalk/Beyond_Mediocrity.asp
jewishfeminist02MemberJent1150, if you believe that I am not practicing Judaism then I have nothing more to say to you. Why should I argue with someone who won’t even give me the respect of acknowledging my place in Am Yisrael?
jewishfeminist02MemberOkay, I have an alternative solution for 9. I racked my brains and remembered eighth-grade algebra- good old FOIL! Too bad it doesn’t give me a new answer.
9=(2-0)(0+9)
jewishfeminist02MemberI wasn’t aware that this was an issue. If the situation is as you say, then the shidduch crisis is much worse than I thought.
jewishfeminist02MemberThat’s funny, I always just took it for granted that I knew where the letters on a keyboard were. (By the way, the first six on the top row- QWERTY- constitute a playable word in Scrabble. If you have the letters, and a place to put them, you can get a lot of points for that.)
asdfghjkl, is there a decent-sized Jewish community in Ireland?
jewishfeminist02Member“jf02, I don’t particularly recall any instance of you changing your opinion…”
First, I didn’t say that I had, but if you must know, I actually have. (Only once or twice, and not a complete turnaround but a small change. I guess it wasn’t evident in my posts because it’s not the type of thing that I would tend to announce.)
jewishfeminist02MemberSmartBargains.com has a great Black Friday sale. They generally have name brands available at deep discounts throughout the year, but I think the prices are slashed even more for today.
jewishfeminist02MemberFor making me think!
(It’s true- no matter what, even if my opinions remain the same afterward, every time I sit down to type a response to a thread I have to re-examine the issue as if for the first time.)
jewishfeminist02MemberI don’t know Boro Park, but in general…
If you have children’s clothing, I know a wonderful organization called Cradles to Crayons that helps out children who come from low-income families. They are based in Boston and recently opened up a branch in Philadelphia.
When I have clothing that no longer fits me, I usually give it to Goodwill.
jewishfeminist02MemberNobody, I too hate math- just thought I would try my hand at this one, since unlike traditional math problems, there seem to be multiple correct answers.
As for your riddle…is it a candle?
ICOT, it took me a while to come up with those three…let’s see what else I can think of. I’m certain I’m forgetting some math function or expression that would help (haven’t taken secular classes in nine months, so I guess I’m a little rusty.) Okay, I got one:
6=(2+0+0)Sq9 [How do you type a square root???]
So that still leaves 1,2,3,4, and 8, since you provided 5. I’ll keep thinking.
jewishfeminist02Member“Let’s just say I would make a good shidduch for ‘jewishfeminist 02’ (I agree with nearly all of her views.)”
Wow, that’s a first! I thought I was alone here! 🙂
Beacon, thanks- I have been told before that I come off mature for my age. It comes from having to deal with hardship at a young age; I just grew up sooner than most.
P.S. Darwin, where do you live? (I won’t be offended if you regard that as private information. If that’s the case, just pretend I never asked.)
jewishfeminist02MemberOrder of the ABCs? No, that’s just the order of the letters on the middle line of a keyboard. Did you never take typing class? (Or look at a keyboard??)
SJSinNYC, your screen name is misleading if you in fact live in NJ!
I was born in NJ and moved to MD at the age of 6. I currently live in Yerushalayim and after this year will be relocating to Boston.
jewishfeminist02MemberI never understood why Thanksgiving was so turkey-centered. The Pilgrims ate a lot more than just turkey in the New World! Maybe that’s just my vegetarian sensibilities getting offended 🙂
Anyway, I am in E”Y right now so I am not celebrating Thanksgiving. I overheard one girl say poutily at dinner earlier tonight, “It’s not Thanksgiving without pie!” Okay, so it’s not Thanksgiving. We’re in Israel, for goodness’ sake!
Growing up, I never davka celebrated Thanksgiving but sometimes my aunt and uncle would invite us over for a meal, and I think my Bubbe once took us out to a restaurant before she fell ill. It was just never a big thing with my immediate family. I definitely feel grateful to America for the religious tolerance it has provided; imagine if I had been born in 1490 Spain instead of 1990 America! But I don’t see it as being unpatriotic if I don’t have a big meal on Thanksgiving.
jewishfeminist02MemberModern Orthodox, Ashkenazi. (No surprise there, right?) But I don’t see that it really matters.
jewishfeminist02MemberJAPP, it’s probably not meant in a nice way. You shouldn’t feel bound to a certain label just because it’s how others view you.
jewishfeminist02Member“I am not sure why YWN allowed your comment to be posted as it is clearly against Torah values.”
I was not aware that YWN censored postings for content (aside from those that would clearly be inappropriate on a family site.) I have noticed that posts here are generally edited or deleted a) for clarity- spelling etc or b) for tone- personal attacks are not tolerated. However, I wrote a very long post in response to the replies I got to the last one that was published, and it has not appeared here. This upsets me, as I insulted nobody in the post. Since when is there a serious problem with pluralism, which was the main idea of the post?
Now for the rest- I will (again) defend my position as best I can, assuming the moderators see fit to allow me to do so.
“Atheism, the Reform, and Conservatives are incompatible with Judaism and the Torah.”
I have already addressed this issue in other threads and I am not going to repeat myself here. Anyway, 000646 said it better than I could have.
ICOT, I appreciate your sentiments and you have made me look at the issue in a different way. However, after some thought, I stand by my conclusion. I have had some really positive interaction with the Conservative community in Baltimore, and I noticed that a good deal of those who drive on Shabbos drive only to shul, not to the mall or grocery store, and furthermore, those who do drive to shul drive there because they do not live walking distance. I can think of at least two families who used to drive to shul and have since bought houses closer to shul so that they wouldn’t have to drive anymore. Granted, not all of them are like this, but many are. (This is part of why I get so upset when people make blanket statements like “all Conservative people are wrong and deserve Gehennom.”) As I have stated, I am not in the same position as these people are- some of them are also of the type to take that deal to strike the match on Shabbos so that they could use the wealth to do more mitzvot. It’s the same logic as driving to shul, that one aveirah will enable them to do a hundred mitzvot. Again, I don’t agree with it, but I respect it just as much as I respect those who are to the right of me. There seems to be this concept in the frum community that everybody to the left of X (say a typical frum Jew) is sinning terribly and preventing Moshiach from coming, while everybody to X’s right has just decided to take on more chumras. Maybe they’re unnecessary chumras, but there’s nothing inherently wrong with them. (Alternatively, everybody to X’s right is a tzaddik and X strives to be more like them! But never do I see such harsh condemnations expressed with regard to the extreme right as they are with regard to the extreme left.)
Mrs. Beautiful, your point about atmosphere works with regard to a camp, but not with regard to an entire city or even a neighborhood (like Boro Park, which you cited as an example.) Clearly, one can find out the dress code of a camp beforehand and decide not to send children there if they are not prepared to abide by it. But in terms of the city in which one lives, are you actually suggesting that people move out if they do not like the unspoken “dress code” by which most of the residents seem to abide?
On Tuesday night, I went to visit a friend of mine who grew up in a much more right wing home than I did. She is in seminary in an ultra-Orthodox neighborhood. I got off the bus and walked down the street to get to her apartment, realizing as I passed others that I was the only woman around wearing pants. This made me a little uncomfortable for a moment, and then I shrugged and kept walking. So what if I am more liberal than the majority of the women who live there? Should I have worn a long skirt just to “fit in”? It’s not as if I even live there, I was just passing through, and anyway, if I had done that, I would have felt as if I was hiding who I am and masquerading as someone I’m not. I should never be forced to abide by anyone’s standards other than my own. Anyway, they were comfortably loose-fitting pants which I wore with a long-sleeved shirt. It’s not as if I paraded in the street with a bathing suit on!
“I didn’t realize that I mentioned in my post that I look down on people who have different opinions.”
So you don’t feel that a statement like “your hashkafos are SKEWED” (notice the capital letters you put in to emphasize the enormity of my supposed error) consitutes you looking down on me for having a different opinion from you?
For everybody who’s trying to bring in Chukas HaGoyim, think about where black hats came from first.
Moderator, I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about and writing this post, and I respectfully ask you to close this thread if you’re not going to publish it. I deserve the opportunity to defend myself against those who are challenging me, and if you’re not going to give me that opportunity, then at least prevent them from issuing further challenges which I will be similarly unable to answer.
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jewishfeminist02MemberI think the issue here is that #5 is not worded well. Much of the argument that has come up has arisen because of this wording. Obviously, it is impossible for a man to assess after one date whether or not he thinks the woman is “amazing”. So how does he decide whether or not to see her again? (After several dates, he might think she’s amazing- but the issue is how to get there.) However, replace “amazing” with “good middot” (which is how most of the posters here seem to have interpreted it) and now it works. Clearly, middot come first, and I would be shocked if anyone here thought otherwise. And, as The Wolf said, a man marries a woman, not a father-in-law. It’s certainly very important to build a good relationship with the woman’s father, but he should not be cross-examined as a precursor to deciding whether or not to date or marry her.
I am not in the shidduch world, but if I were, it seems I would have a problem. Since everyone is so worried about the woman’s father being a talmid chacham, baal tzedakah, etc. how would I find a shidduch, being that my father is deceased? (And even if he were living, he was a baal teshuvah and a college professor of modest means, so he would lose on both counts! Of course, he learned and gave tzedakah while he was alive, but if it were a contest of who learns the most or gives the most tzedakah, he would not win for the reasons stated above.) But does any of this really reflect so badly on me? I don’t think so.
Despite what some of you may think of me based on my modern opinions, I will humbly submit that I believe I am basically a good person and a good Jew. Of course, I have my faults, as does everyone, but at the core I do everything I do in life for the sake of serving Hashem, and isn’t that what really matters? Do you think it would be fair for someone to turn me down as a potential shidduch just because my father is no longer alive, or because he was not the biggest Talmid Chochom around?
I actually believe that I have become a stronger person because of the ordeal that Hashem put me through as a child (I was ten when my father was diagnosed with cancer and twelve when he died.) I take life more seriously now and am more contemplative rather than just “going with the flow”. I also have more sensitivity to others’ feelings and more faith in Hashem. My deeply rooted belief in and love of Hashem developed during those two horrific years, as I saw that my family and I endured despite the fact that we seemed on the brink of collapse. I was so young, I didn’t yet have the inner reserves of strength that my mother seemed to draw on, so how did I possibly make it through the hell that became my life? Even more so, how did my brother, who is 5 1/2 years younger than I am, get through it? Only with Hashem’s help (and, of course, as I later realized, it was He who guided my mother through the experiences that gave her those reserves of strength which He knew she would later need!) So of course I would do anything to have my father back in my life, but since I have to accept that he is gone, I also recognize that losing him helped me to grow as a person, and I have noticed that it is sometimes difficult for me to relate to girls my age because, having gone through this test, I have come out of it a different person with different priorities. It’s not c’v that I think I’m better than they are; it’s just that we are coming from very different places. I was forced to grow up a lot quicker than is normal since I had an adult experience as a child. It just puts me on a different playing field than everyone else- I matured early, so I might stand out in that regard compared to other girls my age. The point of all this is that, if I’m not mistaken, maturity should also be something that a man looks for in a wife, as well as ahavat shamayim, yirat shamayim and deep emunah. As I described above, I believe that I have these qualities as a direct result of my father’s death. So if you look at it this way, a man might reject me without realizing that I should be at the top of his list!
I don’t know how any of this is coming across and I really did not mean to make this about me, it’s just that the subject touches a raw nerve. I’m sorry to have gone on for so long about something so personal, and I hope no one is offended in any way by this. I just think that there is something seriously wrong with the shidduch scene if it’s more important to ask who the girl’s father is than who she is.
jewishfeminist02MemberBogen, you forgot me!
(You should take it as a compliment that we all want to make it onto your list. But I love the one you wrote for dont have internet- nothing can top that!)
jewishfeminist02Member10=2[0]+0+9
9=(2x0x0)+9
7= -2.00+9
(Sorry, I don’t know how to type an exponent. The 10 equation is supposed to start with 2 to the 0 power.)
jewishfeminist02MemberHypocritical in what sense?
November 27, 2008 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm in reply to: Ideas for Bar Mitzvah Shalosh Seudas/Melave Malka? #626444jewishfeminist02MemberIf you’re doing a Shalosh Seudos, your guests may still be fleishig from lunch, so I would recommend making it pareve (that’s what we did for my brother’s Bar Mitzvah Shalosh Seudos last summer.) Serve simple food like bagels and egg salad, but make sure to have enough quantities for everyone. Also, put out lots of cakes and cookies. If you want to be more adventurous, try a fruit soup. An easy salad to make is just lettuce with red onion, mandarin oranges, and candied pecans. Use a simple dressing so as not to overwhem the flavors of the ingredients.
November 25, 2008 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm in reply to: You Know You’ve Been Spending Too Much Time in The YWN Coffee Room When…. #1119289jewishfeminist02MemberShehechiyanu! 🙂
November 25, 2008 9:26 pm at 9:26 pm in reply to: Is a Boy Looking to Date a Girl or a Chavrusah? #1217827jewishfeminist02Member“Replace the ‘Tur’ (or whoever) from your questions, with ‘God’ to realize how imbecilic these questions are…Would you c’v ask these questions about God?”
Of course Gedolim deserve a great deal of respect and are on a higher level than any of us can ever conceive of, but they are still HUMAN, they are not GOD no matter what.
jewishfeminist02Member18, turning 19 on Groundhog’s Day (February 2nd.)
Come on everyone, don’t be shy! It’s not as if we’re going to say, “That’s funny, you LOOK a bit older…!”
jewishfeminist02MemberIsn’t it Ben-Ammi, not Ben-Ammon?
November 25, 2008 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm in reply to: You Know You’ve Been Spending Too Much Time in The YWN Coffee Room When…. #1119287jewishfeminist02Member…when temporary loss of Internet access is a major tragedy because you just KNOW someone responded to your post and you have to read it!
…when you log on Motzei Shabbos knowing the freshest post will be 20 hours old since it’s still Shabbos in NY, but you’re disappointed anyway.
…when your roommate asks why you bother arguing with anonymous people on the Internet and you have no good response, but you just can’t stop doing it.
…when you check YWN before checking your e-mail.
…when you stare at random people on the street thinking “that could be Joseph” and then think “oh wait, he lives in NY…well, maybe that woman over there is yoshi. Where does she live again?”
…when you read through all of the posts on this thread and find yourself nodding along.
…when you do the usual read-through of your post before pressing send and realize you have just listed all the reasons why you need to get a life.
jewishfeminist02MemberJoseph, it doesn’t matter what the non-Jews do! I am not saying we should take less advantage of legal services than they do, or more advantage, or the same advantage- I’m saying that we should focus on what we are doing REGARDLESS of what they are doing. If an ilui wants to spend his days learning Torah, more power to him. But let’s limit the number of men who jump on board just because it has become the thing to do, particularly those men who have natural talents in useful fields like technology. There’s no question that the community needs some men to be learning full-time, but we really need to make that a much smaller percentage than it is now so as not to suck up tax money and overwork the women of the community.
jewishfeminist02MemberHmmm…I’ll ask my Rav tomorrow morning. This is too confusing.
jewishfeminist02Member“BTW, either due to more careful editing, or to maturing of posters, the tone of posts seems to be more pleasant and less angry, in general, the past few months.”
I’m still relatively new here, and I really can’t imagine- how bad was it before???
jewishfeminist02MemberI’ve been to the Herr’s factory too; it’s a great place to go.
What about all the engineers who developed the software to create the machines, as well as those who physically built them? I imagine it took a lot more than 3.
jewishfeminist02MemberI drink soymilk…so it’s not a problem for me! (By the way, soymilk is a great solution for the organic issue. Rice milk as well.)
November 24, 2008 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm in reply to: How do Violent PC Games Affect Our Kids? #626188jewishfeminist02MemberThere you go: sports games are great, and puzzle games even more so because they’re intellectually stimulating. But this thread is titled “How Do Violent PC Games Affect Our Kids?” I would most definitely not support a child of any age playing a violent game.
jewishfeminist02Member“I know a rabbi who paskens you can drive to shul on Shabbos if you live to [sic] far. Live and let live. I hope SJS agrees to live with varying halachic opinions and would not be against all of this rabbi’s congregants driving to shul on Shabbos.”
Can’t speak for SJS, but I would not be against this. I’d NEVER do it myself, but I have no problem with others doing it. (Yes, I know you offered this premise sarcastically, but I really would not have a problem with it!)
jewishfeminist02MemberOkay, but the machines don’t create and maintain themselves! The technological industry has closed many jobs but opened up others.
In general, I purchase flight tickets online. Last year, when I took a family trip to Israel, we used a travel agent to plan out the trip since we were making our own schedule and not going with a group- we needed information on what places were family-friendly, etc. So for the express purpose of buying tickets, I don’t think there’s any advantage to using a travel agent, but in terms of trip planning, they know a lot of useful information that can otherwise be difficult or time-consuming to find.
November 24, 2008 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm in reply to: A mitzvah for an aveira? or at someone else’s expense? #626746jewishfeminist02Membernoitallmr, you clearly don’t “know it all” if you can’t even be bothered to double check what you are reading and instead respond to a post by misquoting it. When I saw that you described SJSinNYC’s workplace as “98% male” even though she had written “85% male” your posting lost all credibility in my eyes.
jewishfeminist02MemberFrom dictionary.com:
2. (sometimes lowercase) an English-speaking person in a place where English is not the language of the majority.
#2 would seem to indicate that tikva68 is contemplating aliyah. #1 would indicate that s/he would like e.g. to stay away from Puerto Rican neighborhoods in NY.
jewishfeminist02MemberAn “automatic removal” button would for sure be abused. As has been made clear by the diversity present among users here, we all have different ideas of what is “100% treif”. Speaking as one of the more modern users who has multiple times been called an apikorus among other names, I’m sure the majority of my posts would be deleted right away by the more right-wing among us.
November 24, 2008 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm in reply to: Is a Boy Looking to Date a Girl or a Chavrusah? #1217805jewishfeminist02MemberBut that’s exactly the issue- that the same words are used to describe a male group as would be used to describe a female group. That’s why I never understood the Gemara that quotes the Shema “v’limadetem otam et b’neichem” and goes on to say “bneichem v’lo bnoteichem” as why would the Torah say “et bnoteichem”? This would exclude males. And it would be unnecessary to write “bneichem v’gam bnoteichem.” Since we know the Torah has no extra language, the natural conclusion is that the same word, b’neichem, would be used whether the Torah meant exclusively boys or both boys and girls.
Note that I’m not trying to bring this as a proof that women can learn Torah. I’m simply pointing out that based on the wording, it’s impossible to draw a definitive conclusion, so it makes no sense to try to use it as a disproof either.
jewishfeminist02MemberTranslation, please.
jewishfeminist02MemberSorry, I double-checked the other thread. Turns out it was Joseph who said that.
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jewishfeminist02MemberThe line of thinking that goes “well, the goyim do it, why shouldn’t we?” is flawed since as Joseph pointed out in another thread, two wrongs don’t make a right. You can scream the word LEGAL until the end of the world, but that still won’t make it right.
And, by the way, Joseph, I am keeping the field of education in mind as a career option. I’m just a little hesitant because my mother got “burnt out of” teaching.
jewishfeminist02Member“20+ years of violent games being played by kids all over the world has pretty much disproven any knee-jerk reaction to try and claim that playing violent games causes kids to become violent.”
How does that disprove it? Obviously, not every kid who plays a violent video game is going to become a murderer, but unless you have statistics that show that violence remained constant rather than increasing, you can’t say definitively that there was not an overall trend in terms of an increase in violence.
I’m not saying that you’re wrong; obviously I don’t have statistics that show that violence did increase, but just as I can’t say that I have absolute proof to back up my statement, the same goes for you.
I think, however, that on a level of common sense, it’s intuitive that video games of all kinds send certain subliminal messages, and it’s important to separate out those that are a harmless waste of time from those that can encourage dangerous tendencies in impressionable adolescents.
It’s even more dangerous if you let them start early- I once babysat for a seven-year-old whose parents let him play video games. I watched him play endless rounds of a wrestling game and could see the satisfaction on his face as his virtual character dealt imaginary blows. He was really enjoying watching the other characters get hurt. At one point, he came up against a female character, and when he defeated her, he said vehemently, “That will teach boys not to fight with girls!” Obviously, I took offense at that, but I wasn’t going to debate a seven-year-old! Anyway, the point is that I could tell he was really investing himself in the game and taking real pleasure out of the violence, and that is where it gets dangerous. I’m not saying that he’s going to be violent when he gets older, but I think he is naturally more predisposed to violence than a seven-year-old who doesn’t play these types of games.
November 24, 2008 5:49 pm at 5:49 pm in reply to: Is a Boy Looking to Date a Girl or a Chavrusah? #1217803jewishfeminist02MemberThe Nedarim source is one of the ones I did not learn on my own. The following information is quoted from the article Talmud Study by Women by R’ Yehudah Henkin.
“A source for permitting the teaching of Scripture to women, on the other hand, would seem to be the Mishnah in Nedarim 35b, ‘One whose vow prohibits him from receiving benefit from another, [the other] should not teach him Scripture, but teaches his [minor] sons (banav) and daughters Scripture.’ There is a variant reading that omits the words ‘and daughters,’ but Tosafot and Rosh in 36b wrote that even so, ‘banav’ in the plural means all his children, including daughters. This is also the opinion of Ran and the pseudo-Rashi commentary to Nedarim, and of Ri”tz as quoted in Shitah Mekubetzet.”
Since I haven’t learned this source myself, I can’t speak for which version is more common. You noted the one that omits “bnotav” as the “preponderant version” but R’ Henkin calls it a “variant reading”. Even so, as you see from what he wrote, it’s possible to use it as a support by interpreting “banav” as “children” rather than “sons”. In Hebrew, mixed groups are always referred to in the male form, so I don’t see a problem with this interpretation.
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