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Joseph, If you see the Chofetz Chaim’s sefer you see that he leans towards stringency. I once read some of an article showing that the Chofetz Chaim was very stringent when it came to loshon hara.
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I was looking at some hebrew halachic article and they quoted this sefer: ?”?: What is ?”?? Anybody know what sefer it stands for?
Again, DY, how do you not hold this is a case of tzarich iyun?
Rav Frankel told me that he asked Rav Dovid shlit”a about the teshuvas and Rav Dovid did not explain them, he just repeated his view that his father said one may get cs even where cy is readily available. Rav Frankel told me that basically they don’t reflect a longstanding opinion told many times orally.
1)That Rav Dovid Feinstein holds in his father’s name that it is permissible to eat chalav stam even where chalav yisrael is readily available.
2) If the chalav stam and chalav yisrael are both equal in price and quality, you should definitely only get the chalav yisrael.
3)Despite the teshuvas that indicate contradictory to the above, Rav Dovid shlit”a still maintains from his father that it is permissible even where it is readily available.
His name is Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Frankel, rav in Agudath Yisrael of the Five Towns in Cedarhurst. He is the author of the Machat Shel Yad.
I asked Rav Dovid Frankel, his close talmid. And he confirmed with me. He did say that Rav Dovid shlit”a said if they are both equal, get cy. Where in the Igros does it say pay more?
The Igros Moshe is full of psak halachos.
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Rav Dovid Feinstein shlit”a’s holding in the name of his father that it is mutar even when cy is readily available is not in the Igros either.
Right. I consider it on the level of being in the Igros. It is his own son.
And you keep asking for a source for the story, but what difference does it make? It’s not in the Igros.
Why would Rav Moshe tz”l recount the story in the Igros?
Also, where in Igros does it say that something which is not in the Igros is wrong?
There are teshuvas outside the Igros that can be different than in the Igros. The one’s in the Igros are usually the ones we follow.
And if you think that teshuvah is wrong, why did he write it?
It is not wrong. We just don’t know the circumstance he was writing in and everything.
I saw the picture of the teshuva in the ????? ?????? but that teshuva is not in the Igros. How do you deal with Rav Dovid Feinstein shlit”a’s who holds in the name of his father that it is mutar even when cy is readily available?
Jewish thinker a.if the source is avodeh zarah logic wouldn’t help. B. Keys in challah is the polar opposite of logical custom.
I’m not 100% sure you are right about a. About B, putting trees in the shul is not logical in it of itself, but it is a remembrance of Har Sinai. Same thing here, not logical, but now for a segulah so logical.
As I said, it is a logical custom now so even if we copied it acc. to the Marsham it might not be chukas hagoy. (I’m streching that Marsham a lot, I know)
Rabbi Shabstai Rappaport and Rabbi Mordechai Tendler. Before the hakdama there is a hakdamah from Rabbi Dovid and Rabbi Reuven Feinstein and Rabbi Moshe Tendler.
The point is that acc. to him one can drink chalav stam even where chalav yisrael is readily available. Clearly not “only ???? ????”. Rav Dovid shlit”a does say that if the cs and cy are both equal in price and quality you should take cy.
DaasYochid-I don’t know what you do with Rav Dovid Feinstein shlit”a who says in the name of his father that chalav stam is permissible even in a place where it is readily available.
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Sam2- Even if it came from non-jewish sources it may not be chukas hagoy. It is a logical custom. And the Marsham (See Igros Moshe YD 4:11:5) permits trees on Shavous even though the Non-Jews adopted it for religious purposes. I can see a nafka mina bec. there they copied us and not the other way around but still now that this custom has a reason, it may not be chukas hagoy.
I don’t know any religion that has the practice of putting a key in their bread so I guess you are right.
DY-In a different thread by chanuka gifts you told me that we pasken like the Gra by all religious customs, even if we have our own source for it (like Shavous). Now what do you say?
A good thing to find out is how Rav Moshe tz”l himself was ???? for his family (I heard he was meikel) and how available was Chalav Yisrael on the Lower East Side and how much was it and if Rav Moshe tz”l started to use it for his family when it became easier to get it on the Lower East Side.
Now, the question is, how did the ????? ?????? get hold of the teshuva?
Actually, Rav Doivd and Rav Reuven Feinstein and Rav Moshe Tendler did not sign on the hakdomoh rather the hakdomoh before the hakdomoh.
How did you find that old issue of ????? ?????? ??? ?????
And I think that Rabbi Weinfeld’s teshuva contradicts Rav Dovid Feinstein shlita’s opinion of his father’s opinion. Also, Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven Feinstein signed their names on the hakdamah of Igros Moshe 8
Still, how did Rabbi Forst shlit”a get a hold of it?
How did Rabbi Forst shlit”a get hold of the teshuva?
How about translating that, DaasYochid?
So the editor says that when he says “????? ??????” he means baalai nefesh
DaasYochid- The editor throws this in, in parenthesis (besides other things he adds in parenthesis):
????”? ?”? ??’ ?”? ??? ??? ??”? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ???????; ???’ ??? ??????? ??”? ????? ????? ???? ??? ???, ???? ?????? ??? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ?????, ??? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ?????, ??? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ??????
And I’m not criticizing that point, just saying that it is subjective. Some may enjoy cholov yisrael bars better than Hersheys.
I’m just trying to say it is subjective. Unrelated, (but related to the thread) what is your reading of ????? ??? ???? ??? ??? ? ???? ?? Specific case or across the board? I actually see that it could be across the board only bshas hadchak.
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I disagree with you on that one, DaasYochid.
MRS PLONY- What you are saying is subjective. Someone may like chocolate with milk powder better than liquid milk. There are many delicious chalav yisrael brand chocolate bars, which one may like more than Hershey.