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to josef…saw it in sefer “v”zicron l’rishonim..” has collection of memres from kedushas leivy,chiddishei hurim, karliner…but saw and heard it many times. wi’ll try to find it and post name of sefer….so even mir bal gaveh..(i mean “vayigbor libo bdarkai hashem (we hope and try..”, also “vlo yisbayesh mipnay hamaligun..tor, simon alefh) so excuse my arrogance, cant bring myself to write “I”, “I”,”I” (sound like obama,won’t divide jerusalem but leave it up to the 2 parties..and many more,hashem iyishmaraynu, and its not a joke

to ayin tov, page 4..that in itself is not assur..where is it gepaskened if one can afford something, one is not allowed to aquire it because the next cant affod it. ain l’dover soif.cant buy expensive dress because the other cant afford, or this type of car because etc etc..de toirah hot nit geassered..adderabeh the toireh said “lo sachmoad”,not “dont buy anything your neighbor cant afford so he shouldnt be jealeous..” But the problem is see ,kli yakor dvorim on “ravv lochem soiv huhor hazeh, penu l’chem tzafonu..” also see sheloh hakodoh last 2 pieces mesachteh suckkoh..hey “i can try”is there any a)oinuas devorim,b)shakker,c) chillil hashem in this post? let me know so we can correct (if your right)

to illini07..RE:why use “WE” “US”…we mentioned already in other posts way back..WE will try again. dont have the sefer in front so will try to present as WE remeber a chosid passed the town of where the holy reb ahron of karlin resided and thought while we’re here let me learn something from him. As he knocked on reb aron karliners door the rebbe caled out “ver is dort” so the chassid answered “eich” (it is “I”)so the rebbe answered (angrily (?) ) “there is only one “I”, unoichi hashem elok..” (the other unoichi we should remeber ,”v’unoiche ufar v’eifer..so the chssid left and said “es hot zeich geliont..” if you noticed, yiden medakdekin dont say eich (I), but mir..so mir cant bring myself to say “I”, like you say i might still be ball gaiveh but..when mir readen some one posting “I am APPALLED….” “I” “I” “I”..es shtunged fun gaiveh…now onecs or twice..ok .so to say mir every second word doesnt fit in the lauguage…

to mom18 page 4…egrah d’perka ois 82 in hagoas htzvi latzadik..

to somebody, page 1…thats the problem..its “their point of view” there is such a think (to willi-thing)as dass torah,not that we(to willi-mir )are dass torah but at least we (mir) base ourselfs on shulchen urech ,mamrei chazl etc,, we (mir)may be wrong, the opposite which side, like you say is opinions, opinions is not dass torah .and what are those opinions they are a mishmash of dass that we are subconciously influnced by decadance of our society(by reding all shmutz mags, newspapers,etc, with mix torah . “v’yavdail elok…bein huoir uvein hachoshech” see medrish, actuallay gemmorah too..also when we point out a gemmorah the other “opinion” says “he is a amorah, we cant be like that ..” what a am haratzos..the gemmorah points out its wrong to go dressed in prevocative manner, and he comes whith such ignorames statement…we can take every halacha and disregard it because an amorah said it and we are not an amorah. yes he’ll say the gemmorah wants to bring out how previous generations were moiser nefesh…but that does not negate the moral of the memreh that bas yiroel should not go dressed in provacative clothing…besides one can make a lenge drasha how heilige offsprings depends on the mothers tzenious from shas shulchen urech, (NOT OPINIONS !!) buts that too long pshetel, so mr illii07,big talud chochiom, your invited to present such a pshetel…or matbe the shass shulchen urech is TALIBANIZTION ,afre l’pima??

to “i can onlt try”…tut, tut isnt that “APPALLING”..what an over used cliche’…by the way nobody knows identity of any posters..so what you haking a cheinik..so we hit a raw nerve by you too…

to illini07..again you didnt dissappoint us..so you seem to be a ball madreiga and histaklous doesnt affect you… one of the holy tzaddikum of our generation ,not with us anymore, asked one of his chassidim that went to work with public trans., “what about histaklus?” so the chassid said, “me it doesnt affect” so the rebbe said “how many avairous were you over to say it doesnt affect you?” the gemmorah brochous 20a mentions a amoreh that tore off a dress of lady he thought was jewish because wasnt tzuniousdik…according to mr illini07 and others, why didnt he mind his business and control his…anyway, can see most of the less then dass ball habayis “opinions”, according to this gemmorah and plenty others,are am haratzes and ignoring the fact of human fallecies, se erashi “uvedam anovim susoi” breishis 49 posuk 11

to willi..we thing he can add your name to that list..

to “somebody” can you explain yourself? and if you mean what we think you mean, your name should be added to that list..ahavas yisroel is not a blank check..also if we admonish someone because according how we understand that poster, that their stance is anti torah its not out of sina..as mentined many times, if c’v they need “hatzalah” and if we’d been hatzalah we run with same bren to the rescue and we’re sure vise versa,unles mechallel shabbos etc.(not because of hate..but the reason muter to be mecallel shabbose does not pertain to one, see yome 84b(?)shulchen ureh, ohr hachayim 329 misna brureh seuf katan 9..mutav s’he yicullel shabbos acha keday s’yekayim shabboses harbe..{dont know if halacha l’mayse})

..so dont all of you come with statements,”hate in your heart” “ahavas yisroel” blah, blah etc, etc..and if there is hate ..its usually the opposite.. “gedolah sinas am haretz l’talmud chakam yoser m’sinas akum l’yiroel” and that doesnt mean only “talmud chochem” and “am haretz” it refers to “ehrlicha” and “poirkey oil”…and as you can see…(to thse who are upset that we use yiddish in this english speaking country dont read..yes we mean you! just kiddink. see post #41 in following link and pleny others in articles way backbackhttp://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/General+News/21276/Resident+Writes+Journal+News:+As+An+Orthodox+Jew+Myself,+I+Say,+Shame+On+You……html#comments

to letter writer , is it safe to assume there are other ,maybe even serious, problems that go on in your place? from our experience…with such hanhagah usually there is more to it, like “kales rosh” etc.so if this bothers you you shouldnt be in such place…”hayechate ish bgecholim, v’raglov los sicovenah ? ” the gemmorah talks about such behavior what it leads to

can some one explain why every little thing , one wants us to run to the “rabbonin”? are they our baby sitters?? evrything is put on the “RABBONIM”??..what do you want, every time one does improper thing the nearest rov on the street should jump him ?..and who is going to be that “RABBONIM” ? how about you getting up in your minyan and say what you think about this conduct instead of “RABBONEM”ing!thats what we do when improper things are done. mechoah is evryones responsebility, not just the “RABBONIM”!!

to LESS chumras..take it easy, you dont have to take it personally,dont be so sensitive..now, do ypu have your thoughts on our sheiloh..

to lesschumres posted 26 min ago..still tying to figure how the saileh is being addressed. what your wife said to you is not relevent to this sayiloh..