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tzippy..can you say this in plain language so pea size brain like me understands?
yentas…very beautiful..mir think bogen was a little bit too fast to comment before thinking this thru l’halacha….you see there is no one else agreeing
joseph, itzik ,gavre bogen, etc take over’ v’da ma shetasiv..’mir toigen nit…
to give me a break your comment here, page 5, is in synct with your deyous nifsudos on you postinr regarding the mccain ad that you desperately wanted to be deleted…sp bnoygayah here like on mentoined just take one sample of myriad og good the am yisroel have which cannot be duplicated by anyone is ‘hatzolah ‘, no it cannot and too long to elaborate we will have to touch too many pratim so we leave it to the reader imagination .
YOU KNOW BOIGEN, YOUR GETTING TOO COMPLICATED FOR MY PEA SIZE BRAIN..(OH!,WAIT FOR ‘THOSE POSTERS’ TO SECOND THE MOTION), LETS STICK TO THE SAHILE AT HAND. MIR SEE NO ISSUR WHATSOEVER FOR A FATHER WHO SAYS GOODBY TO A DAUGHTER AT AN AIRPORT AMONG ALL HER FREINDS WHO KNOW THATS ITS THE FATHER AND ASSUMNG THE MOTHER’SSSS WERE ALSO THERE(EVEN NOT) AND OTHER FATHERS AROUND DOING THE SAME…AND L’GABAY THIS INSTANCE (NOT THE ISSUE OF KISSING )MIR THINK’S THERE’S NOT EVEN MIDDOS CHASSIDUS NOT TO. AND MIR WILL EVEN SAY THAT IF A FATHER WILL REFRAIN FORM DOING SO(PUTTING HIS HAND ON HIS DAUGHTERS HEAD,WE ASSUME WITH TICHEL, BECAUSE THATS HOW BRACHA IS USUALLY DONE), WITH ALL CONDITONS MENTIONED UP TO NOW, AND WILL NOT DO BECAUSE OF MIDDOS CHASSIDOS, HE IS B’GAYDER CHOSID SHOITE. MIR NO POISEK SO IF WRONG LET US KNOW…BUT ONLY WITH RAYOUS NOT BOICH SVAROS..ME PERSONNALLY WILL DO IT AT HOME …ANYWAY MIR NOT FROM THE CROWD WHO SENDS DAUGHTER TO SEM. OVERSEAS…NOW PLEASE NOBODT START HARPING ABOUT THIS ISSUE ..WE HAVE PLENTY OVERLOADED AFTICLES AND POSTERS ON THIS ISSUE SO ALL SHITOS ARE MENTIONED THERE…
please bogen , dont put me to together with this apikores pasuhte yid. his whole torah consists of ahavs yisroel, and not our kind of yisroel, only those who are oiver on what ‘yisroel’ are supposed to be. his
9 and others) constantly mocking ehrliche yidden and being medame to ‘talbanization, women wearing burkas etc and b’klall his haskofos all overare anti torah ..also his friends illini, cantor etc all from the other ‘sitra’ mentiond in YU article. please pahute yid, dont come again with hillel hazakon ‘viduch zil gmor’ we pointed out in other place to your am hartzishen psat…also see arvai psochim , ahvas yisroel is not blank check…
to bogen..big difference bet kissing a wife in public and a daughter , we are talking when its known that its his daughter , v’hmaskil yovin the difference …but our subject here is putting hand on head which is totally harmless, as we pointed out since everyone knew its father /daughter so bmchilas kvodoch you still didnt bring rayou…. mir wont kiss my daughter not even btzinu..only time was day of her wedding and btzinu,.halevay gantz klall yisroel such daughter and b’h there are manny, many like her.mir far from oigearbet,so we dont. ok now disregard the ‘vhamasil yovin’..its not tznious for husband wife to show affection brabim ,goirem hirhurim ,i’m not saying its ossur, dont know(this is not addressed to those who are angels also those who were mocking this inyon in all articles regarding the issue of tznious on this site, and also disregard the issur if ‘…vacrai eynaychem’) which is not shayech with father/dayghter relation (when its known its father/ daughter..)
bogen..if you can bring reyous to your assertion..l’halacha one is allowed to kiss his daughter ..only where there is chashad that people seeing wont know its his daughter then its assur, which is not shayech here. see even ezer simon 21 seuf 7(?). now if your talking middos chasidos in that case you cant say ‘there is no defense….’so,please enlighten
give ma brake..RE:your non-explanation explanation of how chilil hashenm pertains here makes as much sense as your request to take off this perfectly normal full of sense ad.
just happened to mention from coultler, but read it plenty history books (not written by communist leaning..)’historical truths'(eh, cantor)..all depends who wrote those historical truths
to illini07..you’ve said that few times before (wont respond) wish you’d keep your words for once..as you response is usually no respose
TO ILLINI07 THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH MCARTYH(DONT EXCUSE MAH’ SPELIN’) HE WAS A REAL AMERICAN PARTRIOT UNLIKE YOUR OBAMINATION AND HIS AM.HATING WIFE AND PASTOR WRONG,ETC. AND NOTHING WAS DBUNKED THAT YOU KEEP ON HARPING THAT IT WAS DEBUNKED, MR LEFTIST. IT WAS THE LEFTIST COMMUNIST THAT STARTED THIS MCARTHYISM TO SCARE ANYBODY THAT POINTS OUT THE TRUTH..ME THINKS ANN COUTLER WROTE BOOK ABOUT THAT SUB. TO PROOVE THIS POINT.AND THIS IS PART OF THE LEFTIST COMMUNIST STEALTH WAR LIKE THIS ‘GIVE ME A BREAK’ CHARACHTER, PLEADING , YOU HEAR PLEADING THE AD SHOULD BE TAKEN OFF. THERE IS NOTHING OFFENSIF,VULGAR,JUST REGULAR NICE LANGAUGE SAYING THE TRUTH AND IF ITS NOT TRUE THE COMMUNIST, I MEAN DEMOCRATIC, PARTY IS MUCH WORSE AND THEN ‘GIVE ME A BREAK’ HAS THE CHUTZPAH TO SAY WORRIED ABOUT THE (NON)CHILIL HASHEM.BY THE WAY TO HAVE A TELEVSION IS A CHULIL HASHEM..TO DO ANYTHING THAT IS ASSUR IS CHILIL HASHEM , ‘GIVE ME BREAK’.. ,AND IF THE REAL KIND OF CHILIL HASHEM DOESNT BOTHER YOU DONT FAKE CHILIL HASHEM HERE.
to give me abreak..and if we’d have ads anti McCAIN YOU WOULDNT BE AFRAID..WHY BECAUSE THATS THE DIFF. BET WEEN LIBERAL COMMUNIST.AND ..BY THE WAY HEAR THE LATEST JOKE.. NOW IS ‘EIS RATZIN’, MCCAIN -PALIN (MEKEN- POYLEN-FOR THOSE WHO DIDNT GET IT ,LIKE ME, THE FIRST TIME)
to joseph ..a person who has telvision and is angeshtopped mit di goyish tumah is not morah hoirueh enough to pasken that pictures of nashim in newspapers is not ausur?! dont insult her..
give me a break..who made you expert on chilil hashem. you dont seem to know the meaning at all. how does chilil hashem come here ? you say ‘….station broadcast from both parties..’ so, did the other try to give ad here?about what you say care …envoiorment ..’ hogwash. now lets get to important matters..can you give some examples what you advocate as a’bleeding heart liberal’ but not kneged hatorah’
TO WOLFMUSINGS ..WHY DONT YOU USE EAR PLUGS?
TO INTELLIGENT PAGE 2 YOUR 3RD POST..THAT VORT IS IN ‘KLEI YAKOR’ ON THAT PSUK.DVORIM 2 POSUK 3
TO ILLINI07..THE AD IS VERY RESPONSIBLE AND GUIDED HITS BULLS EYE AND TO THE POINT..
CHERRYBIM..ISNT THAT THE PICTURE POISEK?
THI IS A BLATANT ACT OF NOTHING!YOU LIBERAL AKA COMMUNIST…WHEN LEVEL HEADED, YOISHER THINKING INTELECTUALS WANT TO SPEAK IN YOUR UNIVERSATIES EG HOROWITZ, ALI AND WARN US OF THE DANGER WE FACE FROM THE ISLAMIST AND OTHER CIVILIZATION DESTROYERS YOU SHOUT THEM DOWN THROW PIES IN THIER FACES ETC,AND YOU HAVE NERVE TO COME AND ASK TO CENCOR A LGIT PERFECTLY NORMAL AD, WHAT CHUTZPAH, WHAT NERVE. AND YES WE ARE FACING A GREAT DANGER WITH OBAMINATION..NEVER HEARD OF HIM, NO EXPIRIENCE, FLIP FOLPING FROM ONE ISSUE TO OTHER ,AMERICAN HATEING WIFE, PLANTS LADIES ON CAMPGIN TRAIL TO SWOON AND FAINT TO IMPRESS, AHD AMERICAN HATING COMMUNISTS AS HIS MENTORS ALL HIS LIFE ETC, ETC,AND YOU LIBERAL COMMMUNISTS WANT US TO IGNORE THIS ..70 YEARS AGO THE WORLD ALSO HAD A MALECH HAMASHCHIS WHO BLINDED EVERYONE WITH ORATORY SKILLS. WE DONT NEED MORE PROOF THAN ALL OUR ENEMIES AND ENEMIES OF CIVILIZATION ARE ROOTING FOR HIM1
to shindy…were you trying to come or leave with your car while he was ‘blocking’ your driveway…doesnt sound so from your words, so he wasnt blocking nothing…
what chiutzpah,what audacity,the nerve of you liberals aka communists to request such. what happened to your free speech that you so much claim? .but that is only for youselves, not for honest upright upright individuals like horowitz, ali etc. yes,there is plenty to worry about that obamination and his american hating wife..remember what a malech chavlah did 60 years ago with his powerful oratory skills..and what is wrong with this blatant act of poltical bias!!!
wasn’t Lamm the meyased of ‘centrist.whatever that entails?
one can only say about this situation, that such person with such background can just reach up to here is frieghtning…’vehanashim ….hiku b’sanveirin’ brishis 19, 11 the one above is blinding everybody,see whats going on with thsee muslim organizations, CAIR ETC, stifling everybody bit by bit…’stealthly’ as its called, who know whats next..
to feif un #1 and who said this ‘rav’ has authority to pasken such serious matters. #2 this is chutzpah for you you come on this ehrliche torah site and give ‘opinion’ on such serious matters. no, freedom of speech does not apply..for the record all of you who come with this ‘magid suir’ that ‘rav’ this ‘poisek’ with out mentioning who so we can verify, is null and void
to mariner p. 2..couldn’t say it better
to cherry..we assume ,in this cae, you are kidding,thats the signature used by the person…could even be ‘moishe’
tp feivel page one as you say ‘yad hashem..’we see mamush ‘v’huanoshim hicah b’sanveirin’ p’ v’yayrah..not onlt this but the whole cair, msa etc etc situation
this is our own doing…we put everything on the yeshivah, rebbe, administration…where in the torah is it mentioned that when you send a`child to yeashiva you are absolved of their chinuch? we get compliments regarding all our children what balay derech cheretz they are…hows that? because we taught them. whenever we saw them address person not properly like ‘dee’instead of ‘eir’, we corrected it, also to get up for grown ups etc, etc,. ‘noitzair teaina yochal pirya’. plenty adults dont have or dont speak with derech eretz to elders, and that is what their children see. see rashi ‘shimon v’leivi achim’ parshes vaychi
we think you should find out who, and confront him,and make him eat his words…if people who pass on rechilas and know they will be made VERY uncomfortable for such ‘homcicide’ they will think twice before…
to tvt…also this has to do with gigulim (reicarnation in fancy language)may we not be tested…the asarah harigay malchus were gilgul of yosefs 10 brothers, they had to suffer because of his mechirah, thats why in the payot yom kippur on the subject of 10 harigay…that episode is mentioned (.. the roman king asked them what is the halacha if someone sells a captive) also read somewhere that the victims of spanish inquisition were gigulim of those who bowed to the ‘eigel’ so this was thier tikkun..not sure but mir think saw it in ‘sfer hadoros’ many years ago.we will say more but there are some out there who are koifer in th whole concept and atart with their usual..of course this is not our own …any way to all of us may we not be tested ,val teviaynu lo liday ‘NISOIEN’. WHILE WE ARE AT IT SEE SEFER ‘DIVREI YECHESKAL’ FROM THE HOLY ‘SHINIVE REBBE, SON OF THE HOLY DIVREI CHAIM, 1ST(?) PIECE PARSHAS MISHPATIM..also some neshoms have to come down for short period to be mesaken some thing ,in hagadah of holy steipler there is such instance…yes cantor we know you consider such stories hog wash, so this is not for you…..
to thing big…rabbi wachsman took this shmuss from same mekor
to oomis1105..may you can explain your intent with this statement..they are dicussing halacha mentioned in s’u regarding proper attire when davening,so what has ‘there was a time in jewish history…’that you state, got to do here?also your husbands situation what does that prove, of course when i in such situation he can danven which ever way …
to tvt..and all the millions of yiddishe neshomes “shnakdu al kiddush hashem”..so this goes back to the fundemental question moshe rabbainu had ‘mipnay mah yesh tzaddik vra lo, vrasha vtov lo?’brochos 5a (?)”asarah harigay malcus’ and so on..
to english teacher.. of what relevance is your ‘frumkeit’ important to this discussion?
to english teacher , by the way we are not ‘young men’ we are probably old enough to be your father.
to english teacher …when ever you feel that you will feel embarrassed, hide under the table, or cover your face so nobody sees you turn red…excuse the comma before the word ‘or’ , we had an extra comma on hand didt know what too do wit it
to english teacher …when ever you feel that you will feel embarrassed, hide under the table, or cover your face so nobody sees you turn red…excuse the comma before the word ‘or’ , we had an extra comma on hand didt know what too do wit it
to nameless..did you veriyfy if the seat was maybe paid for that father thereby not requiring him to give it for older person?
to lkaufman..we have people here givin b’h good eitozs so we cant add, but if there is some way you can post her name, i mean like ‘rochel bas chaneh’ when we say tehilem can have in mind..yes we read that tehillem helps for this too,can be stranger doesnt have to be parents.
so we have this new ‘poisek’ its called pictures. can anyone bring reyoh that we pasken from pictures? to have mixed is beferish a gemorroh that even not mixed just the same floor is assur,mesechtes sukkah 51b,-52a which the rambam paskens perek 8 hilchos lulev halacha 12. and this big talmud chochom (as opposed to us am haratzim..according to that poster)just makes it away with a picture(maybe thats one reason we need mechitze,as from the gemmorom sais even ground floor one room and separate is assur, dont know,my own svarah,but this tam you need for those who are so oisgearbed that they don’t have the problem of histaklus and hirhurim,but we and also the holy tanaim and amoroin had this problem see soif mesachtes keddushin we need mechitzes. also your taine ‘dont look, so you are such a oigearbete yid you dont look, what about plenty others who are not so oigearbet..if it is as said that the holy isgros moshe did officiate and participated in such settings it can only be as one poster mentioned that there were so many other issues to deal.also what the other poster said ‘you think yiddishkeit started in 1945’ no it didnt start but that the state of affairs in yiddishkeit exsited as described, yes there were plenty ball madreiges mispachos who with tremendos mesiros nefesh held on to shabbos, kashros etc, etc but wasnt so pahut..the same can be said about ‘PICTURES’of gedolim that wore certain attire..not that there is anything wrong with it…also dont understand from those big talmid chacham as opposed to us am haratzim ,lo shini malbishom is nothing by you?shoin you’ll come with all kinds of non-explantions explanation….
to mariner..careful now, all these minhugim that you mentioned wasn’t instituted by lowly shisters (shoemakers) it was instituted by holy tzaddikim of each genration,talmiday bal shem ,and they instucted their talmidim,chassidim to adher to those mihagim.so dont make it sound as just as any tom, dick,or harry started a fad.remeber what gemmorah brochos sais,’hamsaper achar mitoso shel tzaddikim…’see there what happend to one such person..
to cantor page 2, you dont have to go to EY, find out the names of the subject of this story,the couple who killed this old man,are in the states..you still didnt explain why you have no problem believing in the dracula ‘MYTH’..and dont be silly the, holy rav kainievsky will not answer such shylos, letters, thats not noigeia halach lmayse, you will have to go down and do seluthing thru his children,talmidim so now lets see you up to the par..,dont start chickening out, or is it as we stated above?..you have enough information to go ahead and dont look for excuses and dont expect any of us to do it for you. bnoigay to us dont care either way if this story happened or not ,but there is hashgacah prutious and such things happen on the issue of killing amalek we didnt comment. not aqauinted with the halacha so this you’ll have to refer to those who said its mitzvah.but if this story is true ,it was an accident and one can see hand of shomayim ,now such stories happened plentiful thruout ages,braught in medrosim etc,,(your kind of ‘myhts’, also in novi ‘shemuel a kapital 15, king shaul was instructed to eliminate amalek, and aggog, which he had mercy on(your kind of mercy) and the result was hamen…you say “hope not to be tested in this manner”..now if its a mitzvah, why not. the amaleks of all generation were tested with the mitzvah of ‘halacha b’yodia s’eisof soine l’yakov’ and passed the test with flying colors, the crulety, achzorious, etc,(60 years ago, spanish inq.etc, etc,)also see meforshim ‘vgam es hago ansher yavidin oisom dan enoichi’..breishis, rambam, rambam, oher hachaim hakodosh..and you are going to fail the test..nor pshat is if you can always hock on ehrliche yidden and say ‘frum are ganovim,tax evaders, conniving(sound familiar,thats also what your friends amalek always say,and we are not going to bother to link again to your words)so therefore you will also have a problem to be mkaim this mitzvah. you know what, we will link one of your posts..see following ,post #20 but we have plenty more where you hock’the frum..blah blah blah.. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/General+News/21727/Rabbi+Balkany+Appalled+at+Divisiveness+of+Influential+NY+Conservative+Rabbi.html
RE; kennedy curse..even if there was no curse .one can say it was oinshin he deserved.he was personel friend with that malech hamshchis,malech hamaves in flesh and blood,rooted for him to the us govt. those who say details of this story does not tally (how could he recognize the picture if he saw him only fleeting moment, was only old man no wife was killed, all this is no kashye..and use your own imaginations why.
to cantor.. about dracula..did you verify it with tha archeologosts or you are relying on the textbook, newspaper, library of congress etc, as a matter of fact the only way we would believe it, if we would go according to you shita, if you’d go down there your self and open the grave, and also then who is to vouch its dracula maybe someone was put in the day before,but you have no problem believing that ‘myth’ and this is what we’d call myth mit alle meforshim…..after all its ‘historical truths’
to cantor esq.. so now you have the details of this story, with name (see link above from ‘i can only try) are you going to verify it. we assume you dont expect somone else to do it for you. or are you afraid the story will add up and your whole anti….will fall apart?
to thing big page 6(your second post)..its the mechaber ,which is the bais yosef, that mentions ‘v’nochon l’halbisho al habgodim’, and sfaredim are the ones who go according to bais yosef and askanazim . follow tha rama, so what you mention about the sfardi rosh hayeshivh, would be suprising. also if you dont mind when we read somewhere this and someplace that,from reading this or that cant pasken sheilos.now dont mean to be sarcastic.if its divrei musser, no problem but halocho cant just bring reyoh from such mekor. now lets say he said this ‘sfardic heritage is rich enough…we dont have to..’it doesnt sound like loshon from a ‘big’ rosh hayeshivah. its not eidele talk , may be we’re wrong.also mir zaen all over sfadi yidden with tzitzes on their shirt, or just the fringes. you know mir davenen in a shule and there is a sfardi chacham. i’ll ask him, and he definately didnt learn in askenazi svivos..
to pashate yid , page 2..let your brain think what your eyes read…can you point out where we said such thing..is it page one where we said about the bocherim dancing during seuda and the kalleh comes in, so if that what your refering to, we said l’gabay bochrim..also didnt mention these words at all ‘kaitzad merakdin is not for unzer dor’. ..so how do you deduct from my words what you say so please read over. is it another post ? which
to ir hakodesh page 3 (2nd0) you say ‘ehrliche yid such as you ‘ can you point out where we said we are ehrlicha yid? just trying to emulate them but not there yet..
to thing big page 6 .see hilchos tztzis 24 seuf 1 mechaber ‘v’nochon lelovsho ‘AL HAMALBUSHIM’.and the mechaber is talking about the whole begaed not just the fringes…now if you mean the fringes too (new minhag) so what the purpose of tztites ‘urisem oiso uzchatem…..’