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if you shop at greenfield in boro park they have the new vilna shas for 775 and the oz vehadar for 850. They also have the bloom chosson shas there for 525. They have a website too. Best ones in my opinion are the new vilna shas and the oz vehadar. I personally prefer the new vilna because of the binding and the fact that they didn’t make any changes to the actual text to my knowledge.
“you just lied to make a point that isn’t reality. Keep on with your hatred towards Charedim and keep the Bais Hamikdash aflame!”
I am not even going to bother debating this anymore. The only one with any hate here is you.
@DY you’re definitely missing out.
IF there was a lot of crime in Tel Aviv and the mayor of tel aviv never said anything about fighting crime in his city you would think there is a problem right?
jewishfeminist02 +1
I have heard the same from other women. The sefer hachasidim actually says there may be a problem of kol ish!. There is definitely a problem of tzniyus and shmiras enayim both ways.
how you came away thinking I was ascribing ex post facto blame (or how that even works) I have no idea. Apparently you want me to be saying something so believe whatever you wish I won’t begrudge you that opportunity. If you think this is an isolated incident and that none of the incidents an e”y warrant any response than I have nothing more to say.
You do realize men can be oiver shemiras einayim even if women are dressed btzanua (which kind of messes up your poll). Additionally anecdotal evidence is not a great proof. Your suppositions about women’s psychology are also very simply not true.
Please actually read what I wrote. I never said anywhere that the rabbonim were to blame or that they ordered their talmidim to do this. You seem to be very defensive about this. What I actually said was that if someone in their community did something like this I don’t understand why its not their responsibility to say that such sinah is wrong and condemn it. Ex post facto not a priori. And you know if the Amish started stoning american soldiers you better believe they would be blaming the amish leaders. (I know its a straw man but I couldn’t resist). Besides for which unlike the Amish we have a concept of arvus in our religion.
finally a jets player that jets fans won’t defend
@WIY
I am aware that the hooligans are miscreants and won’t listen regardless. The point of making a statement would be to show that the rabbonim are not in support of it and so that the soldiers don’t feel like they are left out in the cold. It would be to show the chilonim this is not what we believe in and we do have some hakaras hatov and we do care about our fellow Jews – because a large portion of eretz yisroel does not believe that. They believe that the chareidim only care about themselves. For some reason campaigns against other issues have been very public I am not sure why ahavas yisroel isn’t worthy enough of a campaign. If the rabbonim don’t have the time than let one of the gabboim issue a statement as thats what usually happens either way. I find it hard to believe that its too difficult to do.
If we can all admit that it is wrong than why is it wrong to say that the rabbonim over there should make a stand about such a thing. If an analogous situation would happen here in America you would have tons of rabbonim screaming about sinas chinam. It seems that certain posters will defend what goes on over there to no end. What has to happen for you to realize that the situation there is out of control? As has been stated elsewhere in the CR there is no issue making voices heard in regards to other communal issues so why is this issue any different? I don’t think the leaders are necessarily to blame but the fact that no one from that community speaks up afterwards is very curious. And that’s what I have a taina on. The silence is deafening. I don’t think a rav told anyone to go stone people but I think the general atmosphere over there is definitely conducive to such a thing and that is what a rav should combat. I want to see an asifa on this epidemic of los sisna as achicha bilvavecha.
@Toi I am not besimcha I am very much betzaar and you should be too. Ironically there is plenty of “anti-semitism” to go around – charedi soldiers are people too.
I hate to say it but I agree with yichusdik (on a majority of his points) and there are some extremely delusional posters here. If you can’t admit that there is a serious problem with what happened in mea shearim and that every time something like this happens its a massive chillul hashem then hashem yiracheim. This attitude of their wrong so therefore anything we do must be right just sickens me.
Happens every so often in southeast Asia and Japan they take gaming very seriously over there. A guy there died of a burst bladder. There have also people that have had seizures, heart attacks etc.
@Sam2 +1
couldn’t agree with you more.
@a mamin
I am sure you are aware that what got people upset about this thread is not the concept of being tzanua or listening to rabbonim – if anything this thread was decrying the fact that the rabbonim dont ” unite and deny any husband, whose wife dresses against halacha, entrance to their shul for any Tefila, including weekdays, Shabbos and Yom Tov and Yomim Noraim.Their children shouldn’t be allowed in schools.” Boruch Hashem we have rabbonim and manhigim who have a lot more seichel than this. Threads like this and attitudes like that are precisely what turns people away from following halacha.
@anonymouschochom
which hechsheirim still use the DE label?
Makes sense as according to the many of the various reasons behind eating meat during the nine days chicken should not be included – it wasn’t brought in the beis hamikdosh and its not a something that causes simcha. The earliest mekor for assering chicken I believe is the Mordechai. Rav Ovadia Yosef has some extremely meikel teshuvos in regards to chicken and sheva shechal bo.
yes because we are supposed to be in aveilus for the churban. The oilam has been noheg to be meikel throughout the year in regards to music. During the 3 weeks we do (or rather don’t do) what we really should be doing the rest of the year. The Gemora brings other examples of things the amoraim did to mourn for the churban year round although many of those things would fall under the category of mechzi keyuhara nowadays for most people.
supposedly the water from a water fountain has more germs than a public toilet
The OU does not use the DE (dairy equipment) symbol anymore. many products such as oreos for example are really DE and have just an OUD. Check online with CRC or Star K or call them up if you have any specific questions.
“Their children shouldn’t be allowed in schools, as was done regarding Internet.”
and look how well that worked out.
my sister in law told me that a kabbalist told her she is a tzadekes. I asked her how much did you pay him. She said $50. I said you can pay me 40 to say the same thing.
based on some of this posters previous posts I am definitely calling troll.
Definitely love the story. Unfortunately my experiences flying to israel with charedim havent been as great.
Thats pretty funny. Google it. I have circumvented it myself many times to fix computers that had some bad viruses. Its really very simple.
K-9 is probably the easiest filter to circumvent – a simple google search will tell your kid all he needs to know.
My rosh yeshiva said it very simply – its not that we don’t care for animals. Animals are great. People are just better. I dont have a problem with the ASPCA – if their methods work its society’s problem for falling for it. That being said the Nazis yemach shemam were known for being very good to their animals as were some well known dictators. Vehamayvin Yavin. I do agree with Curioisity that we have to be very careful about where our morals come from as many of them may be from a place that is not kosher even if it makes us feel good. It is a very slippery slope.
the problem is that filters are highly impractical for many business users. There is no way to know what you will need to access in advance. Even the adblocker which I use has to be disabled for individual webpages on a regular basis. I wish you luck though and would love to see what you come up with.
you mean the windows admin password? what a joke.
@WIY
root/jailbreak and adblock should take care of any ads in apps.
@SlichosGenendel “Not sure what the heter is.”
color me amused.
This sounds like a perfect question for the chinuch roundtable.
@Feif Un
Had a similar experience in 9th grade. met the rebbe years later at a chasuna and he still refused to have a conversation with me. thought it was kind of odd that someone would hold a grudge for that long.
Its not drums its clearly eli gerstner’s voice making the beat. Shouldn’t be an issue unless you hold fast music is an issue. The voice is not below the range of a human tone (referring to Rav Belsky’s shita). Eli Gerstner does use plenty of effects in the album on the voices but then again so does everyone else. A capella albums seem to use an overload of pitch correction especially on the harmonies.
A Kumzitz in the Rain came out in 2011 believe it was produced by dani gross. has ari goldwag, rivi schwebel, dovid stein (last track) and shloime dachs with others. It has a lev tahor style a capella feel to it. Has some of those annoying background stuff (rain in this case) in the last track similar to Around the Campfire which I dont understand the attraction of. I felt they could have been more creative with some of the harmonies but its an all around solid album.. Plus for people who care about these things, there are no fast songs or beats on the album. Distributor is probably Aderet. I bought on mostlymusic’s website because my wife wanted it and did not regret the purchase.
they have a separate album called “Eli Gerstner and the Chevra A Capella”. I absolutely love the harmonies on that album and think its a shame that the chevra doesnt do that many nice slow songs. You can find it on mostlymusic.com and on jewishjukebox.com. Cheapest option is probably Amazon as an mp3 download – that is where I get whatever jewish music I can’t get on spotify.
they (it was a couple of morahs per class) may have used some other word besides for conspiracy – I don’t remember precisely as it was a while ago. I did learn to read at a very young age though and had a decent vocabulary I probably would have known what the word meant at the time. They probably figured the kids had no clue what they were talking about.
When I was in preschool I remember the teachers telling us about kiddush levana and they decided it was some sort of male conspiracy and thats why they weren’t allowed to do it. They weren’t even 100% sure what guys did by kiddush levana.
chevra chai is not acapella. it was supposed to be released lag baomer and then was delayed leading to it being released at kind of an awkward time.
He was referring to wives being moichel on that aspect on the kesuba if the husband isnt working. I am assuming he meant in a situation where the family doesnt have enough money to live off of from just the wife working ie. when they have a bunch of kids.
kumzitz in the rain lev tahor chevra and ybc are your best bets. actually liked goldwags acapella too despite the fact that he reused the same vocal tracks from earlier albums. kol zimra’s style in my opinion is a bit dated but still is solid. I hate the crickets etc. in the background of Around the Campfire.
idk I thought SlichosGenendel and yekke2 were being needlessly harsh. if someone is using the cr as their outlet I can think of worse things to do. I do think that a certain level of civility should be in order in a frum forum and we don’t have to be like every other forum in the world (although I myself may have been guilty in this area at times).
@DY I hear your taina about mechila. My R’Y seems to have held that such a mechila is not valid in this situation – maybe he meant in a situation where the wife isn’t making enough to support the family it doesnt work? To be honest I am not sure why.
Many of the bochurim who think that are just being immature and will grow out of it – they just want to feel good about themselves so they blow musser shmuessin out of proportion. what annoys me a lot more is when older people who should know better(and certain rabbonim) have the attitude that baal habatim are all am haratzim and avaryanim. my r”y actually said that it is absolute kefira to say that everyone is meant to learn and that no one is supposed to work. The problem additionally is that if anyone here understands economics everyone who is working is paying for the people who are learning through the price of tuition among other things. Not that there is an issue with supporting torah but the people who are learning should have a certain amount of hakaras hatov to those who are working. The problem is ironically that so many of the people learning today do not have rebbeim that they go to so they never know when its time to leave the beis medrash.
@Rabbi Perfect
it is specifically young avreichim who can live like that – what happens when they get older and have a bunch of kids to support… life becomes a lot more complicated and just relying on the parents to work into their 70s is not a solution. The stories of such people are many.
@TLIK
there is no halachic source or precedence for assuring such music and getting involved in such things will become extremely arbitrary as the pilfering of non-jewish intros and usage of techniques learned from non-jewish influences have become extremely widespread. To my knowledge the only artist who doesn’t is Avraham Fried. This would also be extremely counterproductive as the whole point of having jewish music is so that people won’t listen to non-jewish as music is inherently assur.
I have to go back through the sugya I do recall some sevaras to be mechalek between them but I would prefer to come back to you with actual sources. Non-jewish music is seldom discussed in teshuvos probably because the only way to hear it back then was in concerts which would have been assur any ways because of chukas hagoyim amongst other reasons. As this shaila has no practical outcome at all I didn’t really focus all that much on it at the time. The interesting thing is that the heter to listen to jewish music nowadays came from the fact that rabbonim hated the fact that everyone was listening to non-Jewish music so they were accepting of people coming up with a more kosher alternative even though it is on somewhat shaky halachic grounds. Kind of an eis laasos sort of sevara.
listening to jewish music is very bidieved because after the beis hamikdash it became assur to have music due to the fact that we are supposed to be mourning for the churban. I have heard myself from poskim that optimally one should not listen to Jewish music. As Sam2 said you will be hard pressed to find clear mekoros about non-jewish music (and no shirei agavim is not referring to stam non-jewish music). So interestingly enough there is more of a mekor to assur jewish music than non-jewish music. That being said I am not suggesting that one should start listening to non-jewish music.
I definitely agree with Sam2. Actually surprisingly enough listening to jewish music nowadays may be just as much of an issue (post destruction of the beis hamikdash). Non-jewish music and why and how much of an issue it is, is a very complex subject. Needless to say it is not one of the yud gimmel ikarim and definitely is not on the level of eating chazir. That being said it is definitely a good thing to stop doing for hashkafa reasons ie timtum haleiv etc. It is a very good thing to do if you want to be closer to hashem and to have the right chaishek/inspirations to do the right thing.
met Mariano once while I was on the way to lunch at work with a co worker – seemed like a pretty classy guy (even though I am not a Yankee fan)
@HaLeiVi look at the notes in the mchon yerushaliam edition of the Rivash
As the other posters have stated you very obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Talk to any psychologist who deals with frum families. This kind of stuff is extremely well known in the secular world.
@benignuman – so shavous doesnt have to coincide with matan torah yet it is about matan torah – would love to hear you explain that one. Obviously there is some sort of connection that it is in the same time frame but according to the rivash it is clear that shavous is a separate inyan from matan torah.