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JayMatt19Participant
>>Please put me down for Wednesday this coming week, I have a yarzheit
you have it. The Neshoma should have an aliyah. YW-Moderator-72 <<
So why am I not listed on the front page.
I forgot. You’re listed now – thanks for the reminder. YW Moderator-72
JayMatt19ParticipantWhy keep Wednesday open? I asked fo rit this weeks as i have a yarzheit on the 24th of Shvat?
JayMatt19Participant??????????? ???????? ?????????? – Bring us back, our father, to your Torah
The Avudraham asks, why is the word, ???????? (our father) used here when asking for Torah?
The Midrash in Shmos Rabba says (on the passuk) “???? ???-???, ???: ?????, ???? ????” (The Torah that Moshe commanded us is the heritage of the Congregation of Yaakov, passuk in V’zos HaBracha) don’t read it ?????, heritage, rather ?????, an inheritance.
One inherits from their father. HaKadosh Baruch Hu is considered a father to Klal Yisroel ???? ???, ??’ ??????. Therefore we call Hashem ????????, our father. The other nations, however, do not have this level of closeness to HaKadosh Baruch Hu, just slaves to a master. Therefore it says ???? ???-???, ???: ?????/?????, to whom, to ???? ???? and to nobody else.
So, back to our original question, why use the word ????????, when asking to be returned to Torah?
The answer is given through a Mashal. The son of a king leaves the kingdom of his father. When he hears that his father is dying, he returns to receive his inheritance. He isn’t embarrassed to ask for it, after all, he is a son of the king.
Likewise, by saying ??????????? ???????? ??????????, with the addition of the word ????????, we ask Hashem that all those who have left the Derech HaYashar return to Torah without any embarrassment in their returning. After all, Hashem is King, we are his children, and the Torah is our ?????.
February 14, 2009 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm in reply to: Free Firefox Add-on (Search Shas, Tanach, Rambam…) #986219JayMatt19Participant>>but when I went to post it, someone had already done so.<<
I wonder who that could have been ;-P
February 14, 2009 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm in reply to: Recipes for People Who Don’t Know How to Cook #672128JayMatt19ParticipantEnjoy them. Truth is, the crock pot is an excellent way to start cooking, just put everything in and come back hours later. (The crockpot bag is also an excellent tool!)
February 13, 2009 11:12 am at 11:12 am in reply to: Recipes for People Who Don’t Know How to Cook #672123JayMatt19Participant1st of all. Mazal Tov. 2nd of all, relax. (The following recipes are from a guy, who like to cook easy things, without the need for a massive clean-up. If you want more recipes, just ask,.
Just posting Chicken Recipes. I have made all of these at one time or another.
Vermont Maple Chicken
2 1/2 lbs chicken pieces
1/2 cup maple syrup (I just use pancake syrup, just make sure parve)
1/2 teaspoon grated fresh lemon rind
1/4 cup chopped almonds
1 pinch pepper
2 teaspoons lemon juice
1. Over 400 F (200 C).
2. Remove skin from chicken pieces, and discard skin.
3. Place chicken pieces in a shallow 9 x 13 (3 litre) pan.
4. Mix remaining ingredients and pour over chicken.
5. Bake in 400F (200C) oven, uncovered, for 50 minutes, basting occasionally.
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Embarrassingly Simple, Utterly Delicious Chicken With Onions
Ingredients
* 2 roasting chickens, cut up
* garlic powder
* 1 large onion, sliced thin (or two small onions, sliced thin)
* 2 cups sweet wine
Directions
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Put the chicken in a baking pan. Sprinkle with garlic powder. (Don’t be skimpy; you can never have too much garlic on chicken!).
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Lay the onion pieces atop the chicken, spreading them around.
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Unceremoniously, pour the wine over the chicken.
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Cover and bake at 350F for 90 minutes; then uncover and bake for another 30 minutes to get nice, crispy onions, and a lovely glazed skin.
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Peachy Chicken (posted by me on another topic)
INGREDIENTS
* 1 (3 1/2) pound broiler-fryer chicken, cut up
* salt and pepper to taste
* 1/4 cup molasses
* 3 tablespoons lemon juice
* 2 tablespoons butter or margarine, melted
* 2 tablespoons minced onion
* 3/4 teaspoon ground ginger
* 1 (29 ounce) can peach slices, drained
DIRECTIONS
1. Place chicken in a greased 13-in. x 9-in. x 2-in. baking dish. Broil 6 minutes per side or until lightly browned. Season with salt and pepper. Combine molasses, lemon juice, butter, onion and ginger; pour over chicken. Bake, uncovered, at 375 degrees F for 30 minutes. Add peaches; baste chicken. Return to the oven for 10 minutes or until chicken juices run clear and peaches are heated through
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Fake Rotisserie Chicken
Ingredients
* 3-3 1/2 lbs chicken
* 1 small onion (optional)
* 1 small lemon (optional)
* tarragon or rosemary or your favorite herbs
* soy sauce, if desired
Directions
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Spray large crockpot with non-stick spray.
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Form six pieces of aluminum foil into balls the size of a golf-ball and place in the pot.
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Rinse the chicken thoroughly inside and out.
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Rub your favorite seasonings both inside and out.
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(I usually include a little soy for color.) Poke holes in the lemon and insert it in the cavity.
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Insert the onion in the cavity.
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Place the chicken on top of the foil.
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Add nothing else.
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Cover and cook on low for 8 hours.
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Crock Pot Deli Chicken
Ingredients
* 3 lbs chicken
* olive oil
* Lawry’s Seasoned Salt, no substitutes
* aluminum foil
Directions
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Clean chicken inside and out.
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Spray with olive oil.
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Sprinkle with seasoned salt.
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Spray inside of crock pot with PAM.
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Note: Don’t put any water in the crock. Roll 3 or 4 wads of foil and put them in the bottom of the crock. The chicken is going to sit on these. Put chicken in the crock on top of aluminum balls. The chicken’s breast will be on the foil. Cook on high (won’t come out the same on low) 4-6 hours. You have to use the foil to get the deli taste. This chicken tastes very close to the one you would buy precooked at the deli.
Ingredients
* 3 lbs chicken
* olive oil
* Lawry’s Seasoned Salt, no substitutes
* aluminum foil
Directions
1.
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Clean chicken inside and out.
2.
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Spray with olive oil.
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Sprinkle with seasoned salt.
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Spray inside of crock pot with PAM.
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Note: Don’t put any water in the crock. Roll 3 or 4 wads of foil and put them in the bottom of the crock. The chicken is going to sit on these. Put chicken in the crock on top of aluminum balls. The chicken’s breast will be on the foil. Cook on high (won’t come out the same on low) 4-6 hours. You have to use the foil to get the deli taste. This chicken tastes very close to the one you would buy precooked at the deli.
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Orange Chicken
INGREDIENTS (Nutrition)
* 1 cup orange juice
* 1 tablespoon soy sauce
* 1 (1 ounce) envelope dry onion soup mix
* 1/2 teaspoon garlic powder, or to taste
* 8 chicken thighs
DIRECTIONS
1. Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
2. In a small bowl, stir together the orange juice, soy sauce, onion soup mix and garlic powder; set aside. Rinse chicken, and pat dry. Place chicken thighs into a 9×13 inch glass baking dish. Pour the orange juice mixture over.
3. Bake, uncovered, for 1 hour and 30 minutes in the preheated oven, basting every half hour. If using boneless chicken, reduce cooking time to 1 hour.
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Oven Fried Sesame Chicken
Ingredients
* 6 tablespoons sesame seeds
* 4 tablespoons all-purpose flour
* 1/2 teaspoon pepper
* 1/4 cup soy sauce
* 4 bone-in chicken breasts, skin removed
* 1/4 cup margarine, melted or olive oil
Directions
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Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F.
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Combine the sesame seeds, flour and pepper in a shallow bowl.
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Dip the chicken in the soy sauce, dredge in the sesame seed mixture.
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Arrange the chicken, bone side down, in a large shallow baking dish.
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Drizzle with the margarine.
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Bake for 45 minutes or until chicken is done.
February 13, 2009 10:56 am at 10:56 am in reply to: Free Firefox Add-on (Search Shas, Tanach, Rambam…) #986215JayMatt19Participant>>For those who don’t have this plug-in, a Google search using various transliterations can also be helpful. <<
I have yet to see 2 people write a transliteration the same way
JayMatt19Participantasdfghjkl: >>for the record i didn’t find any mistakes!!! Have a great shobbos!!!<<
You did not look hard enough. “R’ Pam says answers the apparent contradiction”
The word “says” should not be there. Oh, well.
Good Shabbos everyone
JayMatt19ParticipantIt is not that difficult to figure out sometimes.
Left high school early. (gap of time 1/2 year unaccounted for). Went to a Yeshiva in Israel (which caters to bochrim with addictions and who might not be shomer shabbos). Was there for 3 years. Went to a “Black” yeshiva for 4th year. Then moved to the Mir.
When you see a resume like that, do you need specifics, or do you feel you have a clear enough picture?
JayMatt19Participantg’nite everyone. Bli ayin hara, my son is asleep. and I just finished a d’var torah for the d’var torah forum. G-night from Yerushalayim (2:30am).
JayMatt19ParticipantA conversation in another thread got me to open a sefer. I wanted to share what I found.
Rav Pam (in the Atara L’Melech) has a whole thing on Shidduchim. In it he has a section in “looks”
R’ Bechaye says one should not marry someone for their looks. On this, Rabbanim ask: But we see in Beraishis that the Imahos were praised for their beauty! By Rivka it says “??? ???? ???” and by Rochel it says “????, ????, ???-???, ???? ????” Yet, on the other hand, Shlomo HaMelech writes ??? ???, ???? ????!
R’ Pam says answers the apparent contradiction by stating that beauty is the equivalent to the number zero. On its own, it is valueless. However, when preceded by a one or a two, it enlarges the number immensely. ??? ???, ???? ????: ??? ????-?’, ??? ?????. When there is ????-?’ that is like having a one. and when the ???? ???? is there, then a zero is placed after the one, enlarging the number, giving it greater importance.
By an esrog, everyone knows there is a din of Hiddur. But that is not the main characteristic. The main characteristic should be nikius, cleanliness. So too in shidduchim (R’ Pam states specifically by women, could be since the shiur was to bochrim) the main Ma’alah (characteristic) to look for is nikius ha’daas and nikius ha’nefesh (a straight person with straight thoughts, hashkafos) as well as middos straight, and pure. Beauty is just an additional plus.
(written at 2:25am in Yerushalayim, but I could not go to sleep without posting this vort [but I can go to sleep without proofreading, so I apologize in advance]. Yashrus, hope to read your contribution after I daven Shachris)
February 12, 2009 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm in reply to: Free Firefox Add-on (Search Shas, Tanach, Rambam…) #986208JayMatt19Participantgo to tools on the top menu bar. and select sifrei kodesh search
JayMatt19Participantnot sure.
b”h I have 2 boys (both still in diapers), and neither one slept well this week. Currently trying to rock the older one while typing
JayMatt19ParticipantTo areivimzehlazeh, no idea. I just know there are some girls that LOOK for suck a guy. (and often the yeshivos he went to give it away, not sure the mods would allow me to be more specific)
JayMatt19Participantafter midnight here in yerushalayim
JayMatt19ParticipantRightly or wrongly, I believe the following metzius to exist.
There are many girls who will accept, embrace (and even desire as a 1st choice) a boy who “went off” and came back.
Few boys would consider a girl in such a situation. And I know no male who would consider such a match “ideal”.
JayMatt19ParticipantPlease put me down for Wednesday this coming week, I have a yarzheit
you have it. The Neshoma should have an aliyah. YW-Moderator-72
JayMatt19Participantmornin’
JayMatt19Participantwhen I said “cue the line…” i was saying the quote tongue in cheek. though not shocked
(1) people thought I was serious and (2) people agreed with the statement
February 11, 2009 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm in reply to: Free Firefox Add-on (Search Shas, Tanach, Rambam…) #986197JayMatt19ParticipantI’d love to know if anyone else uses this.
February 11, 2009 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm in reply to: Where is the Gemorah – Chagigah or elsewhere? #636789JayMatt19ParticipantMods, thanks for allowing my post above with the firefox add-on link. However, I figured this topic would not get much views, so I tried to make it into a new topic (which has yet to be published. Why? What gives?
your new thread has been put out there.
YW Moderator-25
JayMatt19ParticipantCurious, very nice.
JayMatt19ParticipantBARLEY CASSEROLE
1 c. chopped onions
1/2 lb. sliced mushrooms
1 c. pearl barley
4-5 tsp. butter
1 c. water
1 can consomme (beef)
Brown barley in butter. Add onions and mushrooms; saute. Place mixture in buttered casserole dish. (No salt or pepper.) Mix 1 cup water and 1 can consomme. Pour 1 cup liquid over barley mixture. Bake covered at 350 degrees for 30 minutes. Add remaining liquid and cook uncovered for 20-30 minutes more or until done.
JayMatt19Participant>>It shouldent be to hard just google it…it seems to work for all the other divrie torah. (not to knock those divrie torah just trying to prove a point) <<
What is this point exactly you are trying to prove?
JayMatt19Participant??????? ????????? ????????. ??????? ?????????????? ??????????:
He declares His word unto Jacob, His statutes and His ordinances unto Israel.
?? ???? ??? ????? ????. ?????????????? ???? ????????.
He has not dealt so with any nation; and as for His ordinances, they have not known them.
Two Pshatim on the above p’sukim
Maharsha:
The gemarra on Chagiga (13a) says ” ???? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ???? <?????
??????> ????? (?????? ???) ?? ??? ?? ??? ??? ??????? ?? ?????
Rav Ami states, one does not teach Torah to a non-Jew, as it says: ?? ???? ??? ????? ????. ?????????????? ???? ????????.”
Tosfos there says “We learn that the non-Jew who is Osek B’Torah is deserving of death. Yet they have 7 mitzvos they are commanded to do. That there is a mitzva to give over to them.” This is an apparent contradiction.
There is no contradiction. ??? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ??????. The word ?????? means giving over with the reason, meaning and secrets (sod) of the mitzvos. This is forbidden even within the teaching of the 7 Bnei Noach Mitzvos.
Rebbi Ami made the ???? from what we say in davening. ??????? ????????? ????????.
and also the ??????? ?????????????? (reasons behind them) ?????????? (To the Jews). Nevertheless ?? ???? ??? ????? ????, even ?????????????? (those mitzvos that they have) ???? ???????? it is forbidden to teach them the reasons and secrets (sod) behind them.
This shows us that there is in fact no contradiction.
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R’ Chaim M’Vilozon:
The goyim also have a mitzva also have a mitzva to set up a court system. However, they were not given instruction and mitzvos as to how to do it. They need to set it up using wisdom and common sense. And were they to act in a contrary manner, they would be chayav death. Jews, however, have been given detailed instruction how to set up their courts, and how to judge.
This is what it means ??????? ????????? ????????. ??????? ?????????????? ??????????, Jews are commanded to judge based upon the laws and statutes provided by the Torah…?? ???? ??? ????? ????. ?????????????? ???? ????????, he did not do this to the goyim, as they need to utilize their wisdom and common sense when setting up their courts.
I hope you’ve enjoyed these two pshatim on these two p’sukim we say every Shachris
JayMatt19Participant>>Dr. Respler’s study, in which she highly recommends the Chasidish “dating” system, is borne out by the FRUM couples she dealt with.<<
The grass is always greener on the other side
JayMatt19ParticipantPut me down for Wednesday. Hopefully I can submit one in a few hours
JayMatt19Participant>>To backtrack a bit, someone mentioned that the guys have a “list” of a dozen or more at the same time, while the girl is lucky to have one. How does the math work out on this? The population is approximately 50/50, and even given a slight proportion of more girls and the factor they date younger (outside of Chasidisha shidduchim) how can the variation be so great (a dozen to one)? Something doesn’t add up in this assumption. <<
Cue the line “Because there are so many good girls and so few good guys”
Man, that one gets me everytime
JayMatt19ParticipantYWN Coffee Room Nightly D’Var Torah (featuring: JayMatt19 )
Please no.
:o) – not to worry. YW Moderator-72
JayMatt19Participanti gave already today!
JayMatt19ParticipantI once heard a variation to that.
A single guy doesn’t know true happiness until he is married…and then it’s too late
February 10, 2009 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm in reply to: Where is the Gemorah – Chagigah or elsewhere? #636787JayMatt19ParticipantFor the record, I am admitting to doing an online search.
It is available to anyone FOR FREE, and it is an add-on to Firefox.
Mods, please allow this link: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2820
(I have nothing to do with it, just found it online and thought people would like it)
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Long Description
Combining the power of Firefox, Google and the Mechon Mamre text library, this extension allows you to search the Hebrew texts of Tana”ch, Mishna, Talmud Bavli, Talmud Yerushalmi, Tosefta and Mishna Torah. You can search as broadly as all of these sources or as specifically as a single book of Tana”ch, a single tractate of Mishna or a single set of Halachot of the Mishnah Torah. The extension includes an onscreen Hebrew keyboard to assist those who do not know the Hebrew keyboard layout and/or do not have Hebrew input support on their machines. (You can use this keyboard to copy and paste Hebrew text into other things also).
This is still in development. There are many more features to come, including morphological search, search term highlighting and find in page. Let me know if you have any other suggestions.
JayMatt19ParticipantLike I said, if I thought everyone would find certain museums kosher, I would list them. I’m trying to stay neutral here to get a general list.
Museums are not practical for a 7pm date. They close too soon (if they are open at all!)
JayMatt19ParticipantMore Tips:
11. Date yourself first. Make a cheshbon as to what type of people/qualities bring out your good side and make you better. Make sure you can do this to the point that you will be capable of getting engaged to the 1st person you date. It burns me when people say no to their 1st, solely because it is their 1st and they don’t know what else is out there.
12. Unless something you realize something is totally awry, you should go on a 2nd date.
13. Yes looks are important. Yes, if you think all redheads are ugly, you can tell a shaddchan “no redheads”. But beauty is skin deep. There are plenty of happly married people who did not find their spouse attractive initially. (Ask your Rov or Mentor when to stop dating someone you don’t find attractive)
14. Beware of Shochad!! Shochad (bribe) comes in many different forms (e.g. looks, money, yeechus, the other person likes you). Make sure your Rov or mentor can help you navigate when you are blind (hashochad y’aaver…)
15. Look at the other person’s potential as well (are you on the same path, at the same pace?). Remember you are not marrying a finished product (and if they view themselves as a finished product…RUN)
16. NEVER TAKE A SHADDCHAN’S WORD ON FACE VALUE (view them as a salesman, remember there is shochad for the shadchan as well (yes, I say this to people who we set up as well).
17. Chazal say that there should be mechus darga (i.e. that the husband wants to be looked up to by his wife, and that the wife wants to look up to her husband.) This can be accomplished many different ways (e.g. smarts, age, money…) but it should be accomplished
18. Remember that this is going to be one of the most influential people in your kids life. Their middos (good and bad) will be emulated by them.
19. Daven, Daven, Daven. Daven that it go quickly, easily and clearly!
Hatzlacha
JayMatt19Participantareivimzehlazeh: mayim achronim vasser, gut yom tov, RBIs, NFL Football,
JayMatt19ParticipantHow many of those are winter friendly?
Spring is in the air! Hopefully everyone will be married by the fall 🙂
That is nice way of saying “none”
Lets face it, for a couple dating at night in the winter, a lobby can be an attractive option (might not be many other options!)
JayMatt19ParticipantMod25, thanks for your help
JayMatt19ParticipantWhy don’t we come up with a suggested list of places to go to get to know people without going to a hotel lobby?
How many of those are winter friendly?
JayMatt19Participant000646:
1st of all, 168 is an extremely small sample size.
2nd of all, How long were these people married for. Marriage is something someone builds. It could be people were happier if they work on their marriage with their partner (thus dating time is irrelevant to this discussion)
3rd of all, (regarding my vegas comment), if 16 people among the 168 (roughly 10%) stated that they dated 2 weeks or less, and those 16 did the aforementioned “Vegas” and responded that they are “slightly unhappy” how can we now apply this to Religious Jews with different ideals, customs and beliefs?
We Can’t!
(Just challenging your proof)
Edited by YW Moderator-25
JayMatt19Participant>>So I guess you dont beleive any medical studies that are conducted by and with goyim (which would be just about all of them). <<
Biological and sociological are two separate things. Psychological and sociological Researches have made the mistake in the past grouping Hispanics together, without realizing that the Dominicans react differently than the Porto Ricans.
Just seeing the notion that they should be the same is obsurd. Someone checks that the got married after meeting the person for 1 date. Was it set up by family members who did research before (and know each other), or were they drunk when they met in Vegas?
How can you compare the two?
JayMatt19ParticipantYashrus, btw, I mean no harm and I hope you are enjoying this playful discussion (why you are calling yourself an ox is beyond me though
JayMatt19Participant>>B/c all yidden are born with a chezkas kashrus! You sound like you know a little, if so answer my stira. It shouldent be to hard just google it…it seems to work for all the other divrie torah.<<
Not saying you do not have a chezkas kashrus, just thought that chezkas karka would be a better model. Afterall, you want to be known as “permanent” but you have not given 3 weeks in a row, thus no chazaka!! WHERE IS YOUR SHTAR? (btw, looking forward to you earning said chazaka). FYI – Makom Kavua also works like this.
As for the google comment, I have yet to post a googled dvar torah. Everything has been found in sefarim (or heard from the source). However, were you to provide the source of the Rosh in Bava Kama, an answer would be easier to obtain
JayMatt19ParticipantI have a kaballa from my Rosh Yeshiva, who heard from R’ Shalom Shvardron, that when something comes into your head (when speaking), sometime you have no idea why, say it, for Hashem likely put it there since it will effect someone listening (even though you have no clue who/what/where). After reading the other topics this week, the following d’var torah is bursting to come out.
The following d’var torah, I heard directly from HaRav Moshe Sternbuch, at a shiur given in his home to Avreichem.
In Pirkei Avos it says “????? ??????? ??? ??, ???? ????? ?? ????; ???? ??–??? ?????? ?? ???????, ???? ?????? ?? ?????, ???? ???? ?????, ???? ????? ?? ?????, ???? ????? ?? ???”
R’ Yochanan ben Zackei had 5 talmidim…
Don’t say he only had 5 people in his yeshiva. He had hundreds, perhaps thousands in his yeshiva. It was just that he only had 5 worthy of being called his talmid.
A Rebbe is the one who gives smicha that someone is his talmid. Just because someone attended a shiur given by a Rov, does not mean that he is a talmid of that Rov!
JayMatt19ParticipantWhilst not disagreeing with you, I do question the “bridging” to the car door. I am not sure one sufficient license to make that limud.
I remember hearing a story (R’ Gifter, maybe?, if anyone knows help me out) Where a bochur asked whether he should open the car door for the girl from the outside (and thus let her in 1st) or if he unlock it from inside the car.
The reply was use your head! If it is raining, open from the outside and let her in 1st, if it is hot, open the door from the inside so that some of the hot air had time to escape (and maybe the AC had time to start).
Additionally, IMHO chivalry is dying, and women’s lib has killed it (I’m sure this will open a can of worms). Chivalry was based upon the idea of women being “weaker”, (and thus should be catered to in said fashion) and women’s lib preaches equality. Well, if a man now believe they are equal, why should he buy her dinner, open a door, or kill the mouse in the office, let her do it! She can do anything he can!
JayMatt19ParticipantI am here now, which mod is up with us?
JayMatt19ParticipantJoseph, need to disagree with you here. There is a TACHLIS in seeing whether you can have a good time/fun with the person you are dating. WHo wants to marry someone they cannot have fun with?
Could argue as to when is a good time in the dating process to do this, but there is definitely a toeles to it.
JayMatt19Participantexactly. Therefore, try to work within the system of the guy getting the suggestion before the girl.
No where did I take it to the next level which you did by saying they are “emotionally needy and must be sheltered in life from rejection”. Never spoke about being needy, nor the need to shelter.
I just spoke about being a mench. If you want to say that, fine. Please don’t quote me saying what I did not say.
JayMatt19Participant>> you agree with jaymatt19 that girls are emotionally needy and must be sheltered in life from rejection?<<
Please enlighten me as to where I said this.
JayMatt19ParticipantWhy are we using tam/moo’ad as the basis? Why not use the model of Chezkas Karka?
JayMatt19Participant>>it would probably be harder for kids to get if it was legal. think about it – if it was available in a store the black market would be down. <<
Last I checked it wasn’t to hard for an underage person to get cigarettes, why should marijuana be different?
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