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The Jewish Review,
Abortion and Jewish Law: An Interview with Rabbi Moshe Tendler
Volume 2 , Issue 5 (June, 1989 | Sivan, 5749).
It is online.

A quote:
Rabbi Tendler: This is a very astute and important question. As you most likely know, the Lubavitcher Rebbe took an approach based on the idea that the seven Noahidic laws are so universal and so categorically imperative on every human being that we, as Jews, have a mitzvah to, so to speak, “push” them and hence, to foster a legal system that would, for example, prevent a Gentile from committing an abortion. There is no doubt that he is 100% correct from a halakhic point of view. It is a mitzvah for the Jew to encourage the Gentile to perform his mitzvot. It is forbidden for a Jew to mislead a non- Jew into sin. We derive this from the Torah: “Do not place a stumbling block before the blind.” It is hard to second guess the Rebbe either halakhically or politically. This is, of course, an issue of public welfare, and the question is whether or not the public welfare is served by legislation banning abortion. Here, I think, I could see two opinions. My father-in-law, the late Rabbi Moshe Feinstein, felt very strongly that allowing government to legislate in any area of morals and ethics gives them a toe-hold in religion, and if you let them in a little bit, the government will begin to expand its role in this area and start legislating what is proper to teach and what is proper to do in a religious context. Now, Rabbi Feinstein had lived some 10 to 15 years under Stalin and his experience of the Russian government’s total involvement in the religious life of the Jew was so traumatic that he held fast to the idea that we should keep the government away from religion even in those instances where its legislation might seem to be supportive of the Torah point of view. For Rabbi Feinstein, the complete separation of church and state, was absolutely necessary for the survival of any minority group. What is the right approach? I really don’t know. I am a strong believer in the separation of church and state and I believe that minority religious rights are best protected if government protects the rights of each individual to practice his religion without imposing any restrictions. I don’t want to be the one making a decision between the Lubavitcher Rebbe’s opinion and Rabbi Feinstein’s opinion, but I lean in the direction of Rabbi Feinstein. Perhaps there is a little nepotism at work here.

The oil companies making tremendous profits this year such as ExxonMobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Occidental Petroleum etc are glad that people blame democrats while they laugh straight to the bank.

A federal firefighter works for a federal agency and provides firefighting services to structural or wildland fires. The Bureau of Land Management, the U.S Fish and Wildlife, the U.S. Forest Service, and branches of the U.S. Military are just some of the agencies that employ federal firefighters.

Only republicans can object to a board that was setup in order to focus on misinformation aimed at migrants. Misinformation is a problem that has helped to fuel sudden surges at the U.S. southern border in recent years.

Only republicans can object to a board that was setup in order to also focus on monitoring and preparing for Russian disinformation threats as this year’s midterm elections near and the Kremlin continues an aggressive disinformation campaign around the war in Ukraine.

Only republicans, whose sole focus is ensuring that the second amendment allows them the rights to purchase and openly carry AR-15’s , can think that the first amendment is under attack and America is becoming communist .

Dr Pepper,

I am not offended and I hope you had a Gut Yom Tov.
I have learned the hard way, from experience on the YWN coffee room, that I do not want to be in a debate. It takes too much time and effort on my part. It convinces nobody and resolves nothing. It causes Bein Adam Lachavero issues. Very serious ones. There are human beings behind every post, no matter how anonymous they are. But since they are anonymous and posting on a public website , it is easy to write a quick and snide humiliating remark. After a few serious back and forth’s in a debate, the shaming comments are almost inevitable.

Also, some posters are not careful about respecting others .

We are focused now during the sefira on the deaths of 12,000 Chavrusas , students of Rabbi Akiva for an infinitesimal lack of Bein Adam Lachavero.

I made a mistake when I started a back and forth with you on a different post and I am sure you expected a response. This is why I stopped in the middle, although I have the response ready.
I am sure if we met is shul , we would stay up all night together on Chag Hashevuos learning Torah and ignoring politics and current events.

I post because I want my view which is usually different than other posters, to have a part in the CR.
Some posts I am very passionate about (Putin\Russia and war in Ukraine) and others I couldn’t care less (Musk and Twitter). It is usually impossible to tell from what I write. Some I understand are just my opinion (Like, whether a person is fitting to be a judge or SCOTUS). Some I get wrong. (Like, whether Putin was pulling back from invading Ukraine.) So I feel no need to defend my posts. I know that others have a different opinion than me. So be it. I don’t need to unnecessarily debate every issue. As I wrote above, it does not convince anybody and resolves nothing. When I post, I made my opinion heard.

I also post when YWN spreads fake news. YWN and commenters are allowed their opinions but not facts.

A Seder should be an event that our children will always have fond memories of, not a contest for how long it can shlep.
אחד המרבה ואחד הממעיט ובלבד שיכוין לבו לשמים

“In our private chat with only Members, several are saying the only way to save our Republic is for Trump to call for Marshall law,” Greene texted Meadows, misspelling the word “martial.” “I don’t know on those things. I just wanted you to tell him. They stole this election. We all know. They will destroy our country next. Please tell him to declassify as much as possible so we can go after Biden and anyone else!”
This text was written on January 17th . Eleven days after January 6th.
Republicans are traitors.

CS,

Well some people will have been condemned to stop breathing because of this ridiculous ruling.
That is her achrayus.

Already a million Americans have died and counting .

The Aibeshter has not notified anyone via Nevua that Covid is no longer going to infect and kill people.

People can’t keep their masks on until they are no longer medically advised for the whole of society ?

Dr Pepper,

I am working on answering you. But meanwhile, I want to reiterate that I have no qualms with any Jew that prefers always voting Republican if they believe that, al pi haTorah, they are the best for America.

However, the following statements are the ones that I don’t know what the source is in the Torah.

1) Democrats Love Crime

2) “Why are democrats okay with this?” Because they need the votes of the criminals and those who support them. Because BLM
3) I won’t vote for any because the system is rigged. (Parroting Trumps claims that the election was stolen.)
4) Well it is true that Biden and his propaganda left wing news machine are using this ( The Russian Invasion of Ukraine) to distract us from the terrible job he’s doing.

5) This fake president approaches every issue the wrong way. Like Carter, terrible on foreign policy, high gas prices, short supply. The guy is clueless Joe.

6) Biden Admin To Fund Crack Pipe Distribution To Advance ‘Racial Equity’
7) Anything the Democrats Touch Gets Worse . But hey he doesn’t send mean tweets

8) Democrats have Egg on their Faces

9) Joe Biden is mind-bogglingly incompetent. What else is new?
10) Biden can’t stand up the extremists in his own party; he’s weak. Doesn’t carry anything.

11) Can Someone Help Me Understand Why Biden’s Approval Rating is so Low?

ujm,

A) So we should just pick a Rav and call them before an election? Almost like pick a Posek to call.

B) You are correct that we need to interact with Democrats and that is a reason to not pigeonhole ourselves as a community.

Reb Avram,

I am not sure if you are seeing the daily documented war crimes being committed by Russia in Ukraine.
The following are all documented with videos, photos and eyewitnesses.

Innocent civilians massacred, Hospitals destroyed, Residential building razed, usage of mines on refugees fleeing, using weapons that have been internationally outlawed, using Ambulances to transport weapons and other crimes.

There is also documented human rights abuses that Russia is committing on it’s own citizens.

When everyone has a phone with a camera and video on it , it is very hard to hide these abuses.

I extend my hand to you to retract your support of Putin today or you can wait for the War Crimes Tribunal.

“Also, are you saying that since this was regarding a personal relationship he shouldn’t have been removed from office for committing perjury? ”
Exactly.
The impeaching of Clinton was minimally about the laws of perjury. It was more about his moral character.

“Would you also say that if he shot Monica when he was done that he shouldn’t have been removed from office since it was part of a personal relationship?”
Is murder considered Treason, Bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors ? It probably depends on the political climate. I am sure if Trump did it, the Republicans would have excuses not to impeach just like you excuse Trump’s impeachments in your next paragraph because of some Democratic statements made beforehand.

“Regarding the two recent impeachments- Democrats made a mockery of the process by saying that they were going to impeach him before he was even sworn in- they just needed the numbers and once they got that after the midterm elections they went for it.”

It is not the Democrat’s fault that Trump tried to overturn a lost election and bribe Zelensky to find dirt on his political rival. Those are treason and high crimes and he only has himself to blame.

2) I defend the Democrats forcefully in the CR. They have positions that a Frum Yid should agree with and the Republicans have some positions that a Frum Yid should reject.

If everyone in the CR respected that there can be different views, I would barely have what to say. I am defending the Democrats from the views of those who believe that they are completely Evil and that Republicans are completely Righteous, and that it is assur to vote Democrat.

“I haven’t read through all you posts but I don’t think you ever said that you strongly disagree with them trying to force society to recognize relationships that the Torah call an abomination or that you disagree with the notion that unborn babies should be killed at the whim of the mother but we should continue voting Democrat as it’s the lesser of two evils (because they give generous handouts).”

I said multiple times that we are not arguing about the Torah.
Do I have to write that I put on Tefillin every day and keep Shabbos? Since I didn’t write it, can you make an assumption that I don’t ?
I will say it now for you. I strongly disagree with anybody trying to force society to recognize relationships that the Torah call an abomination. I disagree with the notion that unborn babies should be killed at the whim of the mother.
Most Democrats can make the exact same statements. Most believe in Hashem and are religious.The head of the Democratic party currently is a very religious and church going man. There have been Jewish Orthodox politicians who ran on the Democratic party ticket.

The head of the Republican party currently is a very non-religious and non-church going man.

As far as I know, it is not the Democratic party platform to “force” society to “recognize” relationships that the Torah calls an abomination. Nor that babies “should” be killed at the “whim” of the mother. Furthermore, those 2 issues are not relevant in every election.
We should vote for the candidate that we feel is the best for our community. Fabric of society issues are one factor but there are many others. It is not black and white.

I will skip 3 and 5 for now because you make very good points and those are very long discussions regarding the positive and negative outcomes.

There are outspoken and politically active Liberals that are working to destroy the moral fabric of society. But the term Liberal is not synonymous with Democrat.
There are also a lot of Liberals who are not working to destroy the moral fabric of society. They just want to be left alone and not discriminated against.

The freedom to be a Frum Yid in America or to be completely non-religious and immoral in America are freedoms that are based on the constitution.

“The Roshei Hayeshiva, as far as I know, never said that it’s assur to vote Democrat”
Thanks.
“ they provide guidance on how a Frum Yid should vote in each election.”
Which Rosh Yeshiva provides guidance on how a Frum Yid should vote ? The only one who did this was HRH”G HaRav Avigdor Miller Zatsal.
The Moetzes and the Agudah have a long standing policy not to make such pronouncements.

“Do you mind if I ask if you consult a Rov before voting Democrat?” I assume that you do not live in NY City or in Lakewood and were not around for the last election. In NY , the republican had no chance and in Lakewood there was a fierce controversy.

Avram,

And the complete reversal of the Republican party from a healthy distrust of Russia to a almost adulation since the 2010s has really taken me by surprise.

Oil companies are recording record profits. They really don’t care how much you suffer when you pay them at the pump.
In the third quarter of 2021 alone, 24 top oil and gas companies made more than $74bn in net income. From January to September, the net income of the group, which includes Exxon, Chevron, Shell and BP, was $174bn.

Psaki was speaking directly to Fox news’s Doocy when he brought up the same issue.
“There’s no question” the price hikes are a “direct result of the invasion of Ukraine,” Psaki responded. “Federal policies are not limiting the supplies of oil and gas,” she added.

When Doocy interrupted her, Psaki fired back: “Peter, let me give you the facts here. I know that can be inconvenient, but I think they’re important in this moment.”

Biden administration officials have been “clear” about the need for the U.S. oil supply to meet demand while also pushing for a shift to renewable energy sources, she said.

Psaki pointed out that the U.S. is one of the world’s largest producers of oil and gas, noting that oil production in the nation is at “record numbers.”

Meanwhile, there are “9,000 approved drilling permits that are not being used, so the suggestion that we are not allowing companies to drill is inaccurate,” Psaki added. “I would suggest you ask the oil companies why they’re not using those if there’s a desire to drill more.”

TL;DR, Facts can be inconvenient.

Mindful,

These are terms that only conspiracy theorists and their ilk use.

“The world elite”
“War mongers”
“George Soros”
“One world government agenda”
“lgbtq agenda propogated by world economic forum”
“covid scam.”

By the way , on your statements previously in other posts, you owe Klal Yisrael an apology:
1) You stated that “The idea of Gadol Hador itself is very questionable, and has no source in Jewish tradition.”
The term Gadol Hador is not ‘questionable’ and has been recognized since Moshe Rabeinu. In every generation Hashem has put leaders of Klal Yisrael.

2) Your statement, “Why do we care what the Satmar Rebbe said? ”
You should care about everything the Satmar Rebbe said. His Torah, Tzidkus and Chesed are legendary.

3) Your statement , “The more “farfrumt” the community, the more ignorant the women are ” is ludicrous and preposterous. You owe Klal Yisrael an apology.

Mindful,

In the universe that the rest of the world lives in – also called the real world – attacking civilians and then blaming everybody else is called psychopathy.
The only people that believe it are other psychopaths and people who have become accustomed to the persons psychopathy.

Dr. Pepper,

1) “Can you please address that point?”
I am not a Constitutional scholar and I cannot point to the actual verse where the role of the senate in impeachment is not to simply judge whether the law was broken.
On the constitution.congress.gov website they say that “Because impeachment is a political process largely unchecked by the judiciary, the role of the Senate in impeachment proceedings is primarily determined by historical practice, rather than judicial interpretation.”
“What’s your point? “
My point is that it has been made abundantly clear by the last 2 impeachments in the Senate that they do not simply rule on whether the law was broken as you say.
I can point to the verse why Trump was impeached after he was out of office – Article I, Section 3—”subject to disqualification from holding future office if convicted”.
2) “Yidden should vote for the party that has values that are closer to the Torah.” As I answered to Amom that is a very important consideration but not the only consideration.
“A Frum Yid should not stand behind that party.”
A Frum Yid should not stand behind either party!
3) I understand that you see a correlation between the democrats ‘ not allowing the thieves to be arrested for stealing less than a certain amount and allowing violent offenders to get released that same day without having to post any cash bail’ and shoplifting . But I will need more evidence of this. Bail was not instituted so that rich people can get out of jail immediately and poor people can’t.
4) Yes.
5) “No- there’s no modification that would have helped it. It needed to be fully repealed. The US is not in a place where universal healthcare (or any type of health care for everyone run by the Government) can work.”
Well, it wasn’t repealed and Obamacare is still helping people get medical coverage.

Regarding your shita that a Frum Yid must vote Republican, I have a question for you. Do you have a Rav or Posek who told you that you can never vote for a Democrat and that you must vote Republican?

Gut Shabbos

Dr Pepper,

About the SCOTUS nominee, we can have a separate discussion.
1) Impeachment is much more complicated than you are making it. And since we have had 2 impeachments after Clinton that did not result in removal from office , I am sure you know that.

2) How can I support any party in secular America ? Both of them are not the Torah party run by Rabbanim. America is not defining the Torah’s marriage. The word “marriage” with a marriage certificate is not mentioned in the Torah.

3) I am not sure what you are getting at here. What does videos of people stealing in front of security guards have to do with anything ?
I just want to know where Democrats have made it that there are no consequences for stealing.

4) “If so many jobs were created- has the cost of Government handouts gone down?” Definitely . But I don’t have the numbers.

5) “I’ve seen the numbers first hand and can tell you that it had no chance of sustaining itself the way it was designed.” So it had to be modified but Republicans decided it needs to be repealed without replacing.

“I answered that you know good and well that no matter how right wing a government is they will never abandon them.” I do not trust republicans to do the right thing if they can’t gain from it financially.
The republicans will abandon them. By cutting the budgets from the social programs they have already abandoned them.

6) How do you live in America when the Supreme Court decided that a lady has the permission from the constitution to kill their unborn baby? How come you are only discussing the current nominee for Scotus but not the 9 justices who decided Roe v Wade? Were all 9 of them leftists democrats?
I despise discussing the topic because I don’t want to make light of the serious issue of Retzicha.
I answered your question in general on the first line. We are not arguing about the Torah. We are arguing about America.
If you have decided that you can only vote for the political party that shtims with the Torah, you can stay home on election day. No Torah person believes that it is the Torah’s hashkafa that everyone should be able to easily own assault weapons.

AAQ,

They are successes. He made the very best decisions based on his information and based on his ability to react to the enemy. That is not an excuse. It is reality. And it is what everyone expects from him to do.

I imagine that you do not have any inside info on Biden’s decision making processes. Nor into the discussions that go on behind the scenes. So your post is pure speculation . You also didn’t tell me who you think are his less-experienced advisers.

“Media is making it worse – they do not criticize him until it is a total failure.”
You are projecting your ideas onto what you want the media to do. There is no lack of people criticizing him. Maybe he should get the benefit of the doubt since he has intel info that nobody in the media has.

“We learn from this how happy we should be that Hashem punishes us for every little error, while other nations only when fail fully.”

We need to strive to be on a madreiga to be able inculcate happiness when Hashem is punishing Klal Yisroel for every little Aveirah , whereas , he lets the Goyim sin and sin for thousands of years without punishment.
It is very good thought for Adar and Purim.

Aaq,

Regarding a no fly zone.
If you are for it that means that you approve of an escalation of the conflict with American jets shooting down Russians. (Or the opposite.)
That would put America as part of the war.

Is that what you want?

AAQ,

Bob Gates wrote about the 40 years in his book. Moderate and Mild but not incapable of stupid and meaningless politically motivated statements.
It was quite a stupid and meaningless “summary”. I would call it a criticism which reflects more on Bob Gates than it does on Biden.
“60% of US population” . So what ? Trump voters view Putin more favorably that Biden. Why should Biden care about what they think ?
He is doing an excellent job as President. Everyone gets to second guess him and right now Republicans can’t even make up their minds. Either Biden is doing too little in Ukraine and they want America to lead our EU allies and show strength by sending troops to Ukraine or Biden is doing too much and we should just sit back and let Putin conquer and “take back” his Ukraine.

Maybe you can explain what is meant by 40 years ?

There are many Putin apologists here, but I haven’t heard a word of empathy or sympathy for the Jewish communities in the Ukraine that are suffering terribly now.
It’s all about how righteous Russia is and evil the rest of the world is.

UJM,

And even in 2022, the Ukrainians will never accept being Russian and will terrorize Russia daily.

And even in 2022, the world has united to ostracize Russia and will never let go of the economic, financial, political , military , and social sanctions that it has imposed on Russia. Russia is no longer a member of the world community.

Russia has already lost big time and will continue to lose big time.