smartcookie, no terrorist would settle for 7 people unless he knew them and wanted revenge or something. they usually think big and try and go for bigger numbers unfortunately.

myfreind, in private let them forgive him if they have strong emuna. thats fine with me. but careless driving is why they sat shiva on 7 relatives and they should show displeasure at the poor drivers poor judgment. it was not hashem behind the wheel. they should make it known that they hold him accountable, not dump it on hashem. its the wrong message.

again, they are entitled to forgive and be freindly with the driver, but in public such a forgiving attitude can plant a dangerous seed in the in the sub sub sub conscious of many a driver, one that says that says hey , ‘its not so bad if you kill a whole family or if you dont drive carefully because you MAY be forgiven by them in the end’. i am not really asking that they should openly condemn him as a rasha, but the family’s reaction is being watched by millions of israelis and i feel that if a more unforgiving reaction would cause just ONE DRIVER to to be more careful for just ONE SECOND, that could save a life or a busload of lives. i think they have an achrayus to zibur more than a yochid, the driver

bein hasdorim. are you trying to say that the rav its trying to make money from this? he is fighting for kvod shomayim and he is doing it lshem shomayim. all the singers he is against sing in mixed crowds. where are the heteirim for this? the fact that we (myself incl) cant live without music? thats not a heter. how can a song from a current,leading pop artist be incorporated into a jewish song (‘yofyofisa’) and be labeled an ‘alternative’ version without people getting up and shouting GEVALD!!? where is the music headed, and where are the singers leading us?

it hurts me as much as you and maybe more (i am a music addict) but i see where all this is going and i owe it to the rav.he is right. its time for an overhaul. the jewish music industry is a business selling a product that affects out neshomas , just like the Jewish food industry is selling products that affect our neshamas. both need to be supervised.

and yes..chazal say avira deretz yisrael is machkim. so even the air can have a hashpo’a on our neshamas. so i for one will buy a bottle of the yerushalmi air you are selling. but it does not need a hechsher . it has chazals already. but the jewish music that has evolved today into an ugly monster does not.

its been reported that one singer has come forth so far and accepted rebuke from rav amnon yitzchak and a beis din in addition to agreeing to comply with certain rules about his performances, so it looks like his tactic is working somewhat.. but there is a big show in rechovot this monday, and the rav of the city has already voiced his objection. i think this is the first major show since rav yitzchak announced his ban. lets see what happens

mamashtakah i will explain. i think that before upgrading the buses with wifi, they should install an automatic fare machines. because drivers should be doing just that- DRIVING ONLY- not giving change and punching tickets, selling bus tickets AND driving. its not safe.

safety 1st.

mybat, i don’t think the rabbi believes that he will succeed in shutting down the whole industry. that is impossible. As you and others have said its a good kosher outlet and its here to stay.

i think he has more realistic goals in mind, but needs to go to the extreme in order to attain them.

in the long run i think his efforts will pay off and add more kedusha to am yisroel and make the singers and their music more jewish sounding.

fabie- thanks for the link. its feels so good to hear the truth even though it hurts. i hope i can make some type of change for myself because i have a good ear for, and love music.

bp totty, we are influencing him with the beats and sounds we got from other goyim! he is singing foreign words to familiar beats, and we sing familiar words to foreign beats!

he is against the singers. he says some of the concerts are mixed , and their body movements are unacceptable.