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First and foremost, the kid has to differentiate between Judaism and the Jews. That’s the only thing that kept me shomer torah umitzvos.
bpt: Or he’s Israeli. They never wear ties.
I still haven’t figured out peyos, jeans, tzitzis out, not chassidish. I’d say chardal but the guy in question is American and not Zionist at all.
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quark2: Regarding ksus yom, I would say that it does have a function. The tallis katan is a garment that used to be worn on it’s own as a tunic of varying lengths. You can still see non-Jews at renfaires wearing talesim ketanim with a belt to hold the sides shut and the neck leaced up. Just because we happen to wear a second shirt over ours doesn’t make the first shirt patur.
yitayningwut: Just a point about the source, it isn’t brought down from the Ari to wear white on shabbos. It was brought down by one of R’ Chaim Vital’s students that he (R’ Chaim) visited the student in a dream dressed all in black. The student asked why and was told that it was his punishment for not wearing white on shabbos.
If you show up for shabbos mincha with a tie you’re a nerd. This despite the fact that anyone showing up to shacharis without a tie is clearly weird, a verdict worse than anything a court can hand down.
Technically it isn’t allowed, but it is very widespread. In a way, you can say that some charedim are allowed but MO Jews are not because in certain Chassidic sects it’s the official minhag.
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Sometimes people find it surprising when a Jew doesn’t know Yiddish. That’s probably the look you saw.
It could be that your browser updated and the unicode (the codes for non-English alphabets) settings got reset. Check that out.
msseeker: If you think it’s only “MO” teens texting on shabbos you really need to get your head out of the sand.
First of all, “traditional” does not have a set of rules. To be traditional basically means “the shul I don’t go to is Orthodox.” IOW, Orthodox hashkafically but don’t keep halacha 100%. Modern Orthodox is something else, or to be precise two somethings else.(Yes, haifagirl, that is 100% grammatically correct.) There is a Modern Orthodox hashkafa that emphasizes the value of certain parts of the secular world as useful for avodas Hashem. Most of the Rabbi-Drs. with phd’s adhere to this hashkafa regardless of their dress code.
Most hashkafically Modern Orthodox Jews also never accepted the current interpretation of the phrase “daas Torah.” They still consider rabbanim to be scholars of halacha who may have special siyata dishmaya in psak beb’chinas dayan hadan emes l’amito but not necessarily have ruach hakodesh in other matters. When Rav Lichtenstein, for example, says “I’m not a navi” they believe him. As far as I can tell, that is the main sticking point in hashkafa between Modern Orthodox and charedim. The charedim see the MO as not giving proper kavod to talmidei chachamim and the Modern see the charedim as ascribing too much power to human beings. I hope I represented each hashkafa accurately without saying anything objectionable about either one.
There are also people who, regardless of hashkafa are modern in practice. They may follow either charedi or MO hashkafos philosophically but are more modern in their choices of dress and entertainment.
Everyone who learns gemara learns it with rashi. That’s some achdus.
msseeker: Because orthodox and frum are two different things. I see.
And you, Joe need some of the rest of that pasuk: lehaloch b’drachav. I’d particularly recommend ?? ??? ??? ?? ??? ???? ??? 🙂
It would help if you were more specific about what he said and which brachos he talks about.
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Why should we split the site? This is a way for people who would never dream of speaking to each other otherwise to broaden their worldview a bit and get to know other Jews.
DH: Dati leumi refers to a practicing Jew who is also a zionist in the sense of supporting the current state of Israel. They range in practice from moder-orthodox to charedi. As for wearing pants, no Rav Schachter does not permit them.
The Qur’an mentions the Hamsa as one of the idolatrous images their leader uprooted. Apparently he was successful where we, unfortunately, were not.
Who says that (Rabbi?) Dr. Hall was saying anything about reform?
This applies even to talmidei chachamim whose kavod many are mekil in. Since gaw started it, I’ll write a partial list for the olam’s reference:
Rav Yoshe Ber Soloveyczyk the second (nobody but nobody is mezalzel his great-grandfather the Beis haLevi who he is named for)
Rav Herschel Schachter
Rav Aharon Lichtenstein
Rav Avraham Yitzchak Hakohen Kook (“the” Rav Kook)
Rav Tzvi Yehuda Hakohen Kook (his son)
Rav Avraham Yeshayahu Karelitz (Chazon Ish)
Rav Yoel Teitelbaum (Satmar rebbe)
Rav Menachem Mendel Shneersohn, the second
Rav Henkin (both father and son)
And l’toeles harabim, I would like to remind everyone that it also applies to talmidei chachamim who are not famous.
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(somewhere in the first half of bechoros)
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There are several others, such as allowing a woman to remarry based on a single witness.
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Firstly, no talking on this thread. Secondly, I am more comfortable with the I like cholov stam and rock concerts MO.
Firstly: Tough.
Secondly: Repeat. 🙂
DH: Since you knew it and are self-admittedly neither, you contradict yourself. Besides, most MO know at least Yesodei Hatorah and Deios pretty well. (That is, the Hashkafically MO as opposed to “I like cholov stam and rock concerts” MO).
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littleapple: By that logic it would be forbidden to daven at 90% of the shuls in Brooklyn because you would have to “offer your heart and mind to a groupof people that literally worship another god” (sic) by listening to the endless conversation of people who come to shul to serve their Lord and Saviour the Almighty Benjamin.
I don’t know how or if it works, but I know that my family has experienced many yeshuos by following the pasuk ???? ???? ?? ?’ ?-????.
Everyone has certain things that tempt them more than others.
Baruch Dayan Ha’emes.
mustangrider: Those are only the ones we know about. Plenty could have happened that didn’t make the news. Now there’s a scary thought.
Yes, he is. Go outside and look down the street.
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I watch movies, not only with my kippa on, but with my tzitzis out too, though I mostly don’t go to theaters because I’m not into it enough to spend the extra money and travel time.
bear: There is a kalischer rebbe in flatbush. He himself once taught in Torah Vodaath and I think most of his grandchildren go to Satmar. He has some sort of rebbishe yichus but I’m not sure of the exact details.
First the wisecracks:
This one came off a poll on a chassidish (Chabad) friend’s blog.
What does chasidish mean to you?
_ Rabbeinu Tam’s tefillin
_ Farbrengen’s
_ Smashed hat
_ late shacharis
_ lot’s of alcohol
Another chassidish friend (Kalisch) told me: C’mon, in your Young Israel, you can do this in the beis medrash?
“This” was dancing on the tables at a Purim seuda.
Seriously speaking, I’m not chasidish so I only know chasidus through the sefarim and if people live that way it must be amazing. It’s all about kirvas elokim.
…and l’chaim. 🙂
Don’t we already have a thread for subtitle requests?
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(if you can’t finish the sentence without looking it up what does that mean? 🙂 )
We already quoted the Magen Avraham. I was hoping she had another one since I don’t like arguing in circles.
The mitzvah is to walk 4 amos towards the place of kevurah with the casket.
In yeshiva they called them “snake belts.” Not sure whether or not that’s the real name. I was never into fashion much.
shlishi:
a- I didn’t read that thread.
b- Child safety is relevant. Possibly you can make the case that the issue of reporting abuse is not, because he wasn’t abused that way, but it’s nowhere near the same thing as bashing a site you don’t like and saying “you have to listen to me because look a dead child”
Chein: See above. If you have a conflicting source, quote it.
Amen. Personally I think we should do a chevra mishnayos for those who didn’t leave anyone who knows how.
I wasn’t, just saying “ohel moed” for the temple theme but if you wanna go with eicha…
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one last stab at the 3 weeks theme.
mike: I don’t. I think it’s just another pair of sock puppets. Make that a triplet.
There can be exceptions, but the fact is a guy and a girl can only be platonic friends if both of them have absolutely zero romantic interest in each other. The way you describe it, that isn’t the case.