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Reb Ber: The benefits were shown for three-five glasses a week. More than that and the alcohol makes it yotza schara b’hefseida.
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You’re absolutely right! We should make sure that at all day camp mock weddings only a girl can be the kallah and only boys can be chosson and misader kiddushin!
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I’m just back from a farbrengen.
I could use one of the first Spinka Rebbe, also a Yitzchak Yisrael.
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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with decorating a kippa, but like everything else, there are appropriate and inappropriate ways to do it. A small child would have something like the aleph-beis or l’havdil a cute cartoon. An adult may have something more tasteful like a design knitted in around the edges or nothing at all — decorations are a personal choice, though they are decorating a symbol of yiras shamayim and an intelligent person will think about that when choosing styles.
I second bpt. On a serious note, if you find yourself alternating between tears and gales of laughter when your teacher tries to talk hashkafa/machshava, be aware that they aren’t all there is to the subject.
hello99 and Toi: See ???”? ???? ????? ????? ?? ?:?”? based on that, it clearly seems the mechaber saying it is “proper” means lifnim m’shuras hadin.
MDG: Rav Aharon Soloveitchik’s brother, Rav Yoshe Ber held it was assur.
yitayningwut:
I give up
I did that when I realized LMA & Co. actually thought Bilaam meant isolationism in his bracha.
charlie: Efsher l’kayem shlashtan. A while ago I tried to put together a group to learn RaMBaM over video chat on google+. Didn’t work out but we can always try again.
Student, web-developer, baal kriah, sometimes-kiruv rebbi.
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Upset enough?
Refuah shleima.
This is a big problem. A guy can sit in yeshiva for 7 years and only know 49 blatt — 7 blatt from each year’s mesechta. There is slow, and there is too slow. By the same token, there is fast and there is too fast. I’ve personally heard Rabbi Belsky of Torah Vodaath call the American style of “iyun and bekius” “chipus and kria” because iyun seder is spent searching for excuses not to move on and bekius is spent reading without any havana. People would get more Torah out of a solid daf yomi (if it was given at an hour when they could concentrate).
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I will preface this by saying I’m not any kind of a professional, but I’m fairly experienced with DIY things around my parents’ house and I’ve fixed things for other people.
A: Sounds right. There’s no room to set up a ladder safely though I don’t see why they can’t do some kind of scaffolding. If your contractor can’t do it, try shopping around.
B: I do, but as I said I’m no kind of professional. 🙂
C: It sounds like you need a good roofer. I have a couple phone numbers if you’re interested.
LMA: I wasn’t challenging. I thought we agreed that we were comparing and contrasting hashkafos. Now, I will present an MO perspective on the value of isolation. To do so, I will have to restate some of what you already said.
First, MO Jews don’t view it as a
central value of Judaism
but as one of many parts of Judaism and far from the most important one. For example, we consider knowledge of tanach (Hen am l’vadad yishkon is in parshas Balak and refers to the special hashgacha that the Jewish people have) much more important. In fact, we probably agree on that, but that’s a side point.
Charedim and MO differ in both their attitudes and practice of the “metzuyanim sham” of the hagada. First, MO don’t view isolation qua isolation to be a worthy goal. Isolation is meant to preserve us as a people in galus. To that end, chazal instituted many harchakos from gentiles that apply equally to assimilationist Jews (stam yenam, bishul akum etc). These harchakos are to preserve our distinction and separateness while living in the secular world and they work. In contrast, you present the Charedi view of isolationism as a way to preserve the idea of Jewish exceptionalism in the minds of individual Jews.
The fact that the goals of each stream are different lead to different practices. MO wear kippas, visibly identify as Jewish wherever they may be and — most importantly — keep the harchakos chazal instituted specifically for this issue. Charedim, however, must create a much more aloof image to meet their goals, hence the differing practices.
Wolf: medinah
mikehall: Good thing we’re ignoring all sock puppets then, no?
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I’d stick to 5 broad areas for defining hashkafa:
1- The values of isolation
2- The values of secular culture (they are not two sides of the same coin, at least not to this MO)
3- What is a gadol
4- The definition of minhag yisrael. (MO see it more in terms of what acharonim call “minhag” and what actual kehillos actually practiced “bshita” while charedim see it more broadly)
5- The dreaded “Mem” word.
Mayan Dvash: I agree, all we can do is make sure the trend continues.
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coffee: No big deal. We can ignore him until a mod gets around to banning him and the parent account. *hint hint*
No, but every sock puppet should be banned. It’s dishonest and confusing.
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This thread is not worthwhile as it stands for the following reasons:
1- I never agreed to debate. I like debating, which is why I spend time on forums 🙂 but I appreciate being asked first.
2- The rules are clearly not being enforced.
3- The sides never agreed to the rules.
4- msseeker is moderating and s/he has no power to enforce his decisions. One actual moderator with mod priveleges should agree to take the job so he can delete all the posts from other users and posts by the parties in the debate that violate the rules.
5- The debate will be useless until we have some assurance from the moderator that only posts which violate predetermined and publicly available rules for the debate will be deleted. If we have the usual at-discretion system, the debate turns into a sick joke.
Wolf: Not entirely.
Amen, thank you.
I second Wolf for charedi and Charlie for MO. By the way, a couple days before the latest round of charedi/MO started in the coffee room, Rav Rakeffet was in America and gave a drasha on bridging the gap between charedim and MO. The drasha was well attended by a spectrum ranging from his talmidim in Gruss kollel to local chasidim. He would do a great job representing both sides.
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Can we try for a kodshim/beis hamikdash theme for a while after tisha b’av?
It seems that the pasuk gives two very clear criteria that people don’t meet today when they do shiluach haken.
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I respect Satmar Chasidim for their tremendous chesed.
Probably because many Sefardic rabanim were trained in Ashkenazic yeshivos.
My mistake, I skimmed the thread quickly and got you mixed up with the post above yours.
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(yup, still second perek of yuma)
bpt: you may or may not need a car. You have a point about the vacation home though.
winny: His brother (also Rabbi Mehlman) lives in Brooklyn and davens where I used to. I always get the two mixed up.
yichusdik:
a- Can you rewrite your first paragraph? I think you transposed a couple words and I don’t understand it.
b- I agree that the Torah seems to indicate it spread from east to west. Secular scholarship is beginning to lean in that direction too (always fun when they catch up with us, isn’t it 😉 ) based on a deconstruction of the Greek alphabet down to its roots in Phonecian which was passed to Crete by Minoan traders.
c- We both quoted the same Ramban. Since they came out of Syria, they probably spoke Phonecian which was –as far as linguists can make out — almost identical to Hebrew.
d- As for Amalek, they lived about as close to Israel as Moav was, so their language would probably be about as related to Hebrew as Moabite. As a frame of reference, Moabite is close enough to lashon hakodesh that I could visit a museum exhibit housing a replica of a moabite inscription and read it aloud to the tour guide with translation.
Are you sure about your identification of Pumbedisa? I thought Fallujah was N’harda’a. Anyway, they were the two major academies of Bavel where Jews traveled from all over the known world for yarchei kalla until the collapse of the Roman and Persian empires made the roads too dangerous.
rarelycomments: This forum has disclaimers up all over the place telling people not to get psak from the discussions here. We are simply talking Torah. BTW, I notice you had no problem with the people who said “assur.”
Rabbi Mehlman is the one who certifies the plant. He also certifies the stores in Brooklyn because he lives there. I was just curious about the other franchises. It’s a fairly simple question. Ok, so the five towns vaad does one. Who does the ones in Baltimore?
Who supervises the Dunkin Donuts’ outside of Brooklyn? As far as I know, Rabbi Mehlman doesn’t visit all of them around the country.
yichusdik: None of that is kefira, but some people react badly to being shown new ideas. I’ve already wasted too much time with this poster. Please learn from my mistake :). Though ANE languages are an interesting field, especially to a student of tanach; maybe you want to start a thread about it?
zahavasdad: He also left because they weren’t frum enough for him. So what? I thought we were trying to get away from sectarian politics?
Amen to that!
I keep one t-shirt for exercise and just let it get gross for a week.
That’s definitely true. Since you’re there, can I pick your brains about yeshivos?
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SuperJew: While that’s a wonderful sentiment, it minimizes real differences in hashkafa that actually exist. Instead of pretending we all agree, why can’t we just accept the differences. “We” keep Torah umitzvos, “we” keep a wide range of minhagim. “We” learn a wide range of machashava. “We” have varying opinions on all sorts of hashkafa issues. “We” can disagree respectfully like adults. “We” are all Jews. That kind of thing.