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You’re allowed to use an esrog with a broken pitom after the first day. It came up in shul this morning.
Dr. Seuss and akuperma: What you have here is a failure to communicate. There was an Ethiopian Jewish community called ??? ????? which is known to be Jewish for centuries and were only deemed sfekos in recent times. There is also the Falash Murah, who are descended from the main Ethiopian Jewish community but converted a couple centuries ago and lost their chazaka due to intermarriage.
6-Flip him over backwards (minhag chabad)
Bar Shattya: I saw in a different sefer that you have to light a candle in front of it and appoint 7 girls to make sure the candle doesn’t go out. Which one of us has the right mesoirah?
Toi:
1- The man you are talking about was not the “founder” of modern orthodoxy or any other movement.
2- I read it in context. He was talking about post-holocaust Jewry in general. Yes, including yours.
BTW, are you in your early teens?
1- Get everyone who already finished to dance around him singing ???? ?? ??? ??? ????
2- Scream Ana Hashem Hoshiya Na
3- Take a clock off the wall and put it over his siddur. (Don’t use a watch. you won’t get it back)
4- Start krias hatorah/hoshanos without him
5- Sing ???? ??? when he finally finishes.
Reb Ber: My point was that airing Chabad’s dirty laundry (which you did in a pretty tactful way, and I know to be accurate) is OK with 42. I was asking if similar treatment of lakewood would also be.
Reb Ber: Why bring up the lunatics? Let’s talk about the relatively sane messianists first.
Taking your questions in order:
1- They were very common among kohanim and in Yerushalayim.
2- Nothing would stop you from having a mikvah in your home. My local rebbe has not only a mikvah, but a whole shul, in his home. Using one would be a different story as shulchan aruch requires a balanit for the only tvila d’oraisa we still do.
3- AFAIK most of the mikvaos found were larger than the chazon ish’s shiur. Even using the larger seah, 40 is still minimal.
Sam2: If you want to stretch things I suppose you can say it’s al pi hatorah asher yorucha”
Sam2: ^This.
Depending on the type of siman, it can be several others as well.
popa: +1
amused: For the same reason we all call ourselves Orthodox — a new movement popped up and dumped a label on them.
Mod-42: Sez you. Imagine if somebody said something analogous to Kilobear’s comment about the drug problem in Lakewood. Would it still “have turned out ok so far”?
According to the gemara, Yirmiyahu went and brought at least some of them back, so they probably at least know they’re Jewish and some of them probably are in the ever-shrinking majority that aren’t intermarried.
Chochmas Hapartzuf?
The original minhag ashkenaz was to wear tefillin. Why shouldn’t those who still keep it make a bracha?
The best segula is to give lots of money to the ehrliche yidden selling aravos on chol hamoed. That’s what I do.
This is all based on the premise that neo-yeshivishism is in any way the “original” version of Orthodoxy. Every single charedi Jew over the age of fifty knows this premise to be a bad joke.
It’s a mitzva to do it b’pharhesya so that the next generation won’t decide that it’s assur because “growing up we never did that.”
True, but it subsequently came to mean all of Eretz Yisrael in Jewish literature (think some kinnos). The only question is how early. See, Chacham’s cite of Bava Kamma.
Chacham: You’re rayah is even stronger because at that time, Jews were barred from Yerushalayim and were mostly in the Galil.
Popa: I’m saying that I don’t understand why you have a problem with an am ha’aretz being rav hamachshir if you have no problem with hashgachos where the working mashgichim are themselves amei ha’aretz who often couldn’t care less about listening to the learned rav hamachshir.
PS show me where it says an am ha’aretz can’t be a rav hamachshir and I’ll join you for your next korban todah.
Stamper: How old are you? Either way, I’ll take this Rosh Yeshiva’s word because I knew him personally, no offense.
popa: It doesn’t matter how great the rav hamachshir is if the guy actually supervising, isn’t in fact supervising.
Toi: Thanks, I think?
zahavasdad: I agree with you about the article giving YCT too much time. I thought I mentioned earlier that turning them into an Issue is just somebody playing politics, but I see I didn’t.
Feif:
As long as the RCA sticks to its guns and doesn’t accept YCT semicha as legitimate, things will be ok.
I agree.
I have a friend who got semicha from YCT. He’s a great guy, but I wouldn’t use him as my Rabbi.
We could very well be talking about the same person.
…If they stick to those shuls, I think we’re fine.
From a demographic point of view, you’re right. But, as much as I abhor kannaus, you can’t just “throw the old folks to the wolves.”
Other than that, they just don’t even acknowledge it. Why should they?
100% though some people who don’t think the RCA is “frum enough” seem to want more statements of that sort as assurance that they’re wrong, or that they’re right — sometimes it’s hard to tell what people want.
What do you do for mussaf if you don’t have any bulls?
And translate tarbis as rabies?
Orthodox Jews draw the line at a violation of halacha. I don’t get what your question is. If you want to ask someone who davens at HIR about female rabbis, charliehall davens there. If you want to ask a YCT musmach, I don’t think we have any in the CR, but a close friend of my family has a son who went there and is now a rav in greenpoint.
popa: Which does no good if the kitchen mashgichim are amaratzim and/or couldn’t care less about halacha.
How do you manage to do “b’timhon levav” if you’re always doing everything on purpose?
What about neshech v’tarbis. It must be hard to get all the hiddurim in for someone who knows the halachos as well as you do.
Jothar: I don’t think so. As far as I can tell, most people couldn’t care less about Rabbi Weiss’s innovations. You also have to remember that YCT isn’t monolithic either. Not all of their alumni are trying to push the egalitarian agenda.
popa: Why not? Do you want me to tell you who supervises the kitchens at your favorite restaurants?
But does it always? Now that I think of it, where in tanach do we find Zion referring to all of Israel?
Stamper: She didn’t. I have this from someone who learned with R’ Ahron weekly in his apartment when he still lived in Manhattan.
OVKTD: That last “you will find out,” is a great example of 5th chelek.
Today is motzei yom kippur and the sukka is complete.
The bracha was written afterwards.
Jothar: You’re right about a lot going on between the lines. I only have what a rather inactive RCA rabbi (been a member for almost 50 years) tells me. Most of the older RCA members basically ignore YCT because they want to keep leading their kehillos and have no interest in dealing with new movements (in which they include American-style yeshivish). Others, like Rabbi Adlerstein worry about political realities and what the charedim think.
Toi: Go away.
Metzudah means a fortress, so the pasuk in Shmuel would refer to the “fortress of [around] Zion.” That would still fit with Zion being Har Habayis or Har Hazaysim.
My guess is that the reference to Zion in R’tzey is Har Habayit because the bracha is about the temple service, which can’t be done anywhere else.
You can get them for about $5 a “pushka” at any tobacconist or minimart. I guess they’re a lot more expensive in sefarim stores. If you’re willing to pay through the nose (pun intended) you can get natural snuff that either smells like tobacco or has actual “essential oils” mixed in.
Nechomah: If your husband drinks (or if he doesn’t but he lets your sons) you can make Esrog vodka. You buy a bottle, cut the esrogim up and leave them in until purim, when you drink the vodka. One esrog per .75 litre bottle. Or, if you’re adventurous, you can eat them raw.
My neighborhood has way too much wildlife (four, six, and eight-legged) to sleep in the sukka, but I tried it one night last year anyway. I spent half the night chasing feral cats and the other half getting bitten by mosquitoes. I’m debating whether or not I learned my lesson about being such a frummak.
Since your neder is that is basically “all the halachos of a toda chutz m’makom, tuma, v’zar” that includes letting everyone else eat. Fire up the grill.
Sam2: It’s a rashi on the verse where Yakov tells Pharaoh that his life was “short bad and shorter than my fathers'” I don’t know who Rashi is quoting.
popa: The answers to your questions, as well as the questions themselves, are all found in Meseches Bava Mayseh daf alef amud gimmel. (except for l’tzror)
On what day did all the olei bavel agree to a ban on intermarriage?
Can we define where answers are allowed to come from so two people don’t answer with opposite sides of a machlokes?
I vote for passuk and targum only. Any other ideas?
In a way it works as mussar. It tells us a few things:
“This is the way things are supposed to be. This is what Jews are supposed to be doing. The life we live, even our holiest ruchniyus is not lechatchila.”
And then asks us “How badly do we really want it?”
That’s funny. I first heard about it from an MO guy who said it was charedi. I guess no one wants to be responsible for it? 🙂
BTW, it is not to be confused with Torath Moshe the dor-de’i Yemenite yeshiva.
1- AFAIK the conservative Committee has not touched shechita yet. I do recall reading something about bedikas hareiah but I don’t know enough to say. If you want to talk fact instead of boich, every single decision of the Conservative Committee on Jewish Law and Standards is public record. You can email them and ask what they hold about shechita.
2- How are they any crazier than the originals? I understand the karaites being worse because of the other nonsense they tacked onto it, but why do you dismiss today’s chevra so easily?
Godwin’s law. Goodnight.
PS I agreed with you until after apikorus.
Halacha recognizes neither the conservative nor reform movements. A shomer shabbos who pays dues to a Conservative Temple or a reconstructionist pine grove is trusted for everything for which halacha trusts a shomer shabbos who davens in a shtible that doesn’t even have membership.
Re the halacha being to trust tzeduki shechita: what changed? We no longer trust shechita of people with those de’os.
I’ve given up on expecting them to do it right. Now I just cringe when I hear things like the above.
“Disrupts life and kindnes”
“Keeps his faith with two dirts”
C’mon!
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Sam2: That part of the movement has, thank God, almost entirely vanished. Out of sensitivity to the CR’s chassidim, let’s not bring it up when it’s not relevant. Leave that to Gershon Shalom.
Rav Tzaddok is known for talking about “averah lishmah” and he seems to approve of the concept, which makes him a favorite of some Zalman Schachter (oisvorf former Lubavitcher Schechter, not JTS Schechter) but a closer reading (a rebbi who knows machshava helps) shows that he’s really talking about how even averos are holy when they lead to teshuva and similar concepts. Sorry, but I don’t have the sefarim at home. I’ll get back to you with exact sources.
Sam4321: Yep, chassidei Ashkenaz. Nisht inzere chassidim. 🙂
Sam2: Definitely. “mekalkel chayim v’chesed” or “um’kayem emunasoi lshney afar”?