It is Time for Truth

Commentors are bound to throw up smokescreens e.g Little’s long winded ad hominems
The root of the tragedy is ,people still presume “As long as everyone’s happy, because that’s the goal in life. ”

Back to the pertinent discussion
Are we better off as a community if there remains
stigma attached to divorce?Even though there sadly are collateral victims in almost every extended family?
Answer:Without a Doubt

catch,wolfish ,etc.

“ extremes are alone logical and they are always absurd”

singleof4,
every parallel
needs to be
absolute?

If ch”v ” you would tell your grandchildren to be honored to be the victim of bias because it’s for the greater good?”
My descendants are aware that we sacrifice
massively in innumerable ways for the greater good
That is what we yidden ought to do
Few others ,to my astonishment,share similar attitudes

In the old days(70s)
they used to sing to the chosson
‘tan l’meisav tan du..’
IOW
she only agreed to marry him because she was
tired of being single

everyone took it in jest

to Chosson

We are strong proponents of double standards
Rather than washing it away for public consumption
,we should’ve offered”take or leave it”
And it goes both ways e.g.Draft

Women should definitely not be drafted into army, especially in the Jewish Land of Yisrael. This just proves how brainwashed people have become who don’t the basic laws and traditions of our Torah and our heritage

For the male draft on the other hand
it is more blurred

Acc.to M”A 611

only men can reach level of a mal’ach

If Chazal say that ,say,Iran’s conduct is a signpost for Moshiach then it proves this is Emes . Nevertheless, we still may not be zoche to it, depending on our behavior as a Jewish nation

mentsh1
While we agree
It is less generally simple for Economics

Chazal
held it was forbidden to make profits from $
therefore the private Banking system is absolutely wrong

“It’s a way to keep our money here as opposed to holding it in these large Wall Street banks that we pay egregious interest and financial fees to,” Kayvan Khalatbari, a mayoral candidate in Denver, told Westword. “This is not a new idea, these exist all over the world. Germany is fueled by public banks, and look, they have the best economy in Europe.”
One already exists in America, and it has been thriving for nearly a century.

The Bank of North Dakota, founded in 1919, was created out of economic uncertainty: Farmers, concerned that large grain traders and banks based outside the state threatened their economic sovereignty, saw a public bank as a means to protect themselves from exorbitantly high interest rates that put their farms at financial risk.

They also held it was inappropriate to make too much from real estate ,and hold in perpetuity
hence Yovel

They also held Kalba Savua and his friends accountable since they were so rich they should have given away far more than the regular ,
since secular rarely do so ( vouched by local accountant)
the Gov’t needs to step in and Enforce ( though there should be more leeway for the where the sums go

Yserbiuis,
It is only by and large correct regarding
economics and perhaps climate change

For the primary issues it is False
Either There is a Right And Wrong
And that obligates all of us
or there isn’t

liberal democrat

the term should explained better for an Americans
As in early twenty century Britain or Germany

This is becoming a distraction

There is a difference between mumar L’taavon And L’chach’is

though for politicians often is it both

Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman said yemach Shmo on Trotsky
,it seems

The same Leon Trotsky who upon being expelled from the Soviet Union was beseeched by the socialist labour movement of Palestine (including the younger Ben Gurion)to come and lead them.
(He dismissed their petition with derision)

The middle of the road blue dog democrat would prefer they stick to the economy primarily.
Problem is the Democrats are driven and bankrolled for almost a hundred years by the hard/far left,for whom the economy is basically a sop for voters

Rav Hirsch was major backer of
the concept that Gov’ts ought to enforce the 7 mitzvos
And our prime role in this world is to encourage them and bring them forward to it

Rav Herzog,Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan,
Rabbi Yoel Schwartz
have each written extensively
on this
Rabbi Yoel Schwartz has explained ,how is it over the centuries this primary role was left undeveloped? He answers we unfortunately weren’t in a position to bring to their goals

Rav Hirsch similarly compares us for most of those centuries to Yaakov ,just trying to survive.Then we progress to Yitzchak ,and then to Avraham Avinu who guided all the people of the world

Interesting when the Left fought for Internet freedom a couple years ago
against the gov’t corporate nexus it was succesful.
But now that it is a nut for other side ,this is correct and proper

Radak on “Ohr lagoyim”
states it is incumbent upon us to bring the world to the 7 mitzvos

“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

“Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.”

Or the Hilltop Youth?

It was pretty clear that those signatures who approved of the original translation into English would Not have approved of this

Chester A. Arthur, Benjamin Harrison, Warren Harding are consistently among the lowest ranking presidents. What other common denominator do they all have?
They were all the presidents who tolerated free reign capitalism predominance .
Now name those who ranked the greatest presidents. Every one of them, bar none, was considered anti capitalism in their day or at least lukewarm to what the capitalists desired.They were called by the capitalists “traitors to their class “,etc.

Socialism? Useful only as binary straw man. Socialism means government control and ownership of industry and business. Doubtful anyone wishes here for government ownership. Therefore it is nothing more than a cudgel.

When have national economic systems grown best? Not under capitalist regimes. Pull up every study
and/or graph.

Under,actually, fascism and progressivism [the economic form, not G-d forbid the social form]

” Abarbanel also opposed monarchy”
bringing up once again the outlier?

From the Economist(!)

Everyone needs enough to live on. Many of those who drop out of the job market, or who work in the gig economy, struggle to get by. And too often, help for the poor comes in ways that are cruel, inefficient, paternalistic or complex..
There is greater concentration even in non-tradable industries such as housebuilding—in which nobody thinks the quality of output is high.. There is evidence that leading firms, and not laggards, are behind the slowdown. In some industries they may feel they do not need to invest to keep ahead. The tech giants do innovate, but their ideas do not seem to spread through the economy.

Phil ,
Positing Communism as the strawman opposition of Capitalism is convenient but just as disingenuous
It is correct that small classic business owners have narrow margins and therefore small raises of the minimum wage do make it very difficult, but they are unfortunately a steadily smaller percentage of the business world.

Re: Mega corporations and much of the tech world ‘the premise that business owners are “rich and greedy” and need to be punished for exploiting’ everyone, is well on target
And if that is capitalism,it is the capitalism of Animal Farm or Robber Barons 2.0 .
The very least they can do is give back just a bit to the society that made them a success and invariable interference with others’ potential for success

Syag,
It is endlessly complex with constant balancing necessary.
But isn’t that preferable to what has been going on ? Avos 2:21

‘am asked to explain what sort of conservative I am—a question often posed quizzically, given that I am a vocal environmentalist, vociferous critic of corporations.. It is wearying to perpetually explain that “conservative” is not, in fact, synonymous with “Republican” (and these days may even be antonymous)’

To explain what should be obvious..
There is a galactic difference between economic pyramid structures of society and someone’s personal dilemmas
Of the latter ,while torah surely has what to say -as it has to offer about all that exists,
we presume that no one of the past several hundred years is capable of regularly giving definitive answers
(The BH ‘s own descendants often did just that,interestingly)

Regarding livable wage,wage structure, and the like , are there few topics which are dealt with as much ?
At least in the ideal. Begin with 7th PereK of Baba M

Once ,say , those of us capable come to a conclusion of what the proper respectable delineation ought to be al pi torah,then we can conceivably call in the statisticians and economists to crunch the numbers