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The ‘Job’ of Gadol is primarily Carry the world on his shoulders and Pull It Forward
The job of Rebbe is to carry yidden in the present
Rav Berenbaum was never on the Moetzes
He kept his distancesimilar trajectory towards greater Chasidim could also be seen by Nitra, Kashau, Tzehlim, Krasna and Pupa.”
conversation with a choshuve מרביץ תורה (disseminator of Torah) of Litvishe stock. at some point he remarked to me along the following lines – ‘I agree with you that the Litvishe way (Litvak דרך is the correct way, but it is harder. I have been breaking my head lately over some שווערע ( difficult passages of רמב”ם). It is hard. It is a lot easier to be a Chasid.’
Rav Moshe Feinstein זצ”ל famously used to say that the saying ‘Es iz shver tzu zein a Yid’ (it is difficult, hard to be a Jew’) did in a generation of Jewish youth. They would hear their father’s, although keeping the tradition, sighing, groaning, about the difficulty involved. The children then, when given the opportunity to live a life that seemed (on the surface) easier, sans the same observance, unsurprisingly grabbed it. No, he counseled, , we need to be very careful about what message we are sending – not ‘עס איז שווער צו זיין א איד’, rather ‘עס איז גוט צו זיין א איד” (it is good, great, enjoyable to be a Jew)!
I believe the same lesson applies . No, not ‘עס איז שווער צו זיין א ליטוואק’ , but rather ‘עס איז גוט צו זיין א ליטוואק’
Er,
Reality is past the basic minimum it’s Law of diminishing Returns
The more‘tolerant’ we try to be and demand the more intolerant they’ll eventually become
So it was eg Weimar So it will be
Bereishis 27: 40 comm.
Second,
Sure it was easier and Logical to be a knee-jerk paradoxically high-minded liberal in the 19th /beginning of the 20th century
We ought to have matured since However
The Impressive legal Moral edifice and structure
that we were up against was more precarious and fragile in retrospect than we realized. we went Too far in battling to the nth degree blue laws,Economic discrimination laws, and ex fortiori what came afterFurthermore,worth noting that your position is predicated on Self-centeredness. Thus proving Even to the on the fence straddlers that anti-semites money uber alles to be correct
“For arguments sake, since I know you will never be able to answer, where”
ספרי n2nd verse of שמעראשוני on Bereishis, chapter 34
Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky-
we are obligated to support a candidate stands for public morality even if they are anti-Semitic over A candidate who is anti traditional morality-
as dictated to David Eidensohn (Psychotherapist & Rabbi) of Monsey
Rabbi Shimon Schwab said similar in 1992 Due to our national and Global responsibilityהרב אהרונ soloveitchik
Recent publication from his sonRebbe of חבד
תוספות יום טוב
אבות
And
הלכות מלכיםNote:Possible also Author of אגרות משה As per his letter We are perforce obligated to Proclaim
ידוע לכל העמים שעם השם שונאי תועבה’NOT follow this Chazal and have a proper chazoras haShatz?!
Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky, Explained that one already years ago
He said that always was the custom of full time elevated Scholars
It wasn’t meant to be imitated by lay people or youth though“When are you going to stop demanding that American law be in complete agreement with the Torah ?”
When the Torah tells us to and not a moment sooner.
“politics is the art of the possible “and while that purports to be our goal and desire,
obviously pushing too much in one decade or generation will do more damage then positiveWhat happened to the classic modern Orthodox premise that they’re here to uplift the world
‘ Confrontation’ and all that
Might we at least have an acknowledgement that it was Largely disingenuous,[ little more than a useful cudgel Viz a Viz those in the black hat insular Communities]Never meant to be actualized in real terms??
CTL,
come out and admit that you like the present social status quo & skip political roundaboutsHow about right to Kill/ euphemism right to die
RebbitzinGolden,
probably intentionally mixing him up with his son R Yitzchak“stopped sleeping in Sukkah”
total fabrication
“wearing tefillin on Ch”H”
Almost all wore it on Chol Ha’meod many with a brachathat said, each locale had on its own tradition
Joseph,
“The cherem is meaningless”.
My grandfather went to verify that in 1946
And it’s not completely simple as that.
As R’Chaim kreiswirth who was of Polish origin said in 1975 he has a tradition it applicable to a certain well-known grouping[ we will not mention by name]stillJoseph,
Check out the old lithographs even before the Russian decrees they dressed somewhat differentlyFiscally conservative socially left liberal
Zu midas Sodom
cf.Avos 5:13;Bereishis 13:13
Fiscally big government socialist socially left hippie liberal
Zu midas am ha’aretz Or midas Cana’ancf. ibid.; Medrash acc.to
R’Dovid KronglassTanchuma RE’eh
Some drowned in the flood even if they themselves weren’t degenerate for their disinterest in the moral degeneracy
chiefshmerel,
Read it again
Later Nach especiallyDiscover Our obligation to the world and our Purpose
,Amil Zola,
Tikkun Olam Is part of our ethos and therefore no
Not we should allow ourselves to be too closely Affiliated with
Any political affiliation
We ought to be & are much bigger thanHalachically okay to be Socially liberal?
Halachically okay to be observant ,but support others chillul shabbos?
Halachically okay to be pro mafial?“Although I’m a Sephardi, I love Yiddish! It’s a soul language that basically defies all principles of what an official language should be. It’s musical and can convey feelings no other language can. I remember that the Roshei Yeshiva called me Lapes Cardeizei, because Lithuanian Jews can’t pronounce
Yserb,
For the urban Northeast it largely seems to be that way Still the statement is a stretchThe majority of people act inappropriately ?yes
Do they realign the whole world to fit with their indiscretions,promote, and flaunt it ?!
Or do they prefer to realign their indiscretions or at least their childrens for a better world?
Hypocrisy?
As the old french proverb goes
” hypocrisy is the tribute that Vice pays to virtue”laskern,etc.
“caring for” Is Worthy for a means But that’s where it stops
Eastern peoples are”caring”too
cf.Avos1:14
comm.Ain’t much of a choice
Since we are of the persuasion That there is a purpose To this worldSilly op-ed question
” shleimus haaretz was one of the biggest proofs of the Rebbe’s”
Is that so?Predicting boldly
the Gaza settlements will never be abandoned?
” a certain person decided were all kofrim BEFORE gimmel tammuz ”
As if he was the only one?
HaRav Yaakov Kamenetsky Predicted these developments & condemned
laskern,
The Chazon Ish said also that a proper BALANCE between positive hatred of evil and love of goodness in tandem would bring redemption from golus
laskern
apushatayid ,ubiquitin,
of course those who appear “logical”, articulate ,and master the medium and will always be more influential, “intelligent” and convincing than decent people who don’tZionGate,
Harel implied that they were on the verge of catching Mengele And where pushed off &
ordered to put All available resources Towards finding Yossele…“I am well aware that Chabbad had a Yeshiva, Rav Gustman had a position there.”
He was advised to leave in the late ’40s. Which he did.” he supported all Torah institutions and launched programs for even frum kids…”
The Vaad Hatzoloh rescue during the war was cross political and cross ideological. The only grouping
that gave them difficulty working with was Chabad.“In fact the only known Yeshiva that predated the Frierdiker Rebbe that I am aware of is Torah Vodaas.”
Yeshivas Chafetz Chaim
Chaim Berlin
New Haven, after a couple of metamorphoses presently Ner Israel
Skokie
MTJ
RJJ
Chafetz Chaim TA of Baltimore
There was also something of the sort in Toronto“In fact the only …”
Making up your own false facts . figuresFurthermore a certain RY
Those who For Whom The State- D’etat More so the people
become their raison d’etre in sincerity fine there’s what to work with
Wouldn’t it however a tragedy of global dimensions if we exchange the Ends for the means ?raison d’tat
Isn’t it a tragedy to reduced to be subservient to a state ?!
Should we have more to offer For the world?!
It’s not overly parochial?(Many secular used to claim this as well )
that’s all we are?!CS,
It was an understatement
“For now I can refer you to R Aharon Soloveitchik who wrote a letter in response to those who denounced meshichistim ”
Taken out of context
In other statements he had some cold things to say about it‘ What does exist is that numerous Gedolim who were contemporaries of the Lubavitcher Rebbe did hold him in very high esteem and regarded him as a Gadol B’Yisroel. This is a matter of record and is undisputable.’
Tall statement
Although they considered him talented and of the potentialthe maskilim made a play in which a Proto Jewish Army was waiting to fight
kohen Announced out the verses To all those Fall within the rubric of the categories [ including fear of sin] to go home
eventually There’s only two or four [depends on your version] leftguess The sequel
sarahLevin,
There an estimated 14 million Jews in the world with plenty of financial resources bl”‘h
how many Charedim are there ? a few hundred thousand bl”‘h?
there’s so much That ought to be accomplished
to paraphrase AJ heschel: many are messengers who are being sidetracked from their messageSarahLevin,
REITS leans Center/ Right-of-center
That is why much of left of center MO disparage it As little than ‘an orthodox Day School’“is that numerous Gedolim who were contemporaries of the Lubavitcher Rebbe did hold him in very high esteem and regarded him as a Gadol B’Yisroel.”
And also Delusional
A message was sent to him Saying As much from his former Close AssociateTwo points(Unable to address everything ):
As CS willing to admit Others from previous generations May have exceeded the Rebbe Proves
she’s already more moderate and and Mild than Avg.Go to your local fellow without a filter & ask
2: “Shofech Domim” probably referring to Muhammad
laskern
There are two answers
1 no party can do everything and therefore they need to
concentrate on they consider primary and if this gets too far & if the other party shows certain basic restraints, they can as many Republicans in ’08 Half stated,punt over to the other side To let them take care of it
most of Democratic party however cannot be trusted with the reins of the country in our times
2 It is indeed is also correct much of the Republican party has gone too far from early 20th century progressivism
Now there are some who are trying to walk it backThe GOP primaries in 2016 was about this In part
Those who have shown much care for the poor prior
eg Pat Buchanan haven’t been your cup of teathis challenge is really is Strawman Because it’s not as if you would change if they
did take care of the poorR’Henoch Leibowitz was of the view it only applied towards עשו
Some however contend these are characteristics
ISIS Fighters and their supporters Show traits Of cool Sadism
May have mixed in( arguably a reason Older Arab states are so concerned about them]
The rubric of עשוYW Moderator-29,
’tis convenient Putting the onus on the
chofetz chaim
But the moderation is too erratic to be inclined to believe itwell then feel free not to
StuartW,
Postmodernism?CS,
come now
Are you really willing to pretend
any single lubavitcher that you are familiar with is going to entertain a semblance of possibility Of any of the Rebbes That they weren’t born with your category of tzaddik?Other Chassidus’ may wish that to be true, may even wish to believe it to be true however they Won’t actually believe it
Add to mamaleh:
SarahL,how about all those who was still wearing kipot Or the like
going through the motions In an artificial way but that’s about it?They get all their cues From Spirit destroying Society
the feeling is all gone
Sephardic Jews had a ראשון לציון and חכם בשי
Re: Tanya
The Tanya’s conception of tzaddik, benoni, rasha was a radical departure (unless someone can find a source) from all Jewish hashkafa prior.
Classical Judaism believes that a person can rise above their yetzer hara (cf Mesillas Yesharim) or the contrary,(cf Rashi “Vayechezek Lev Paroah”) but no one is born this way
Arguably, much of it was diametrically opposed. (Rambam, Hilchos Teshuva, chapter 5)
It was a radical rupture even for Baal Shem Tov’s pious meritocratic “band of brothers”.It lay the groundwork for the development for the chassidish caste dynasties. One may even venture to say that it pulled out the “raison d’etre” of the chassidish revolution from underneath it.
The noted Chabad mechaber R’ Yitzchok Rothport recalled interestingly that during his short sojourn in Lakewood in the ‘50s, he was invited to hear a shiur/shmuess tearing apart the Tanya’s class conception.oiyveyismear,
It’s hard to make absolute and fast rules
The short answer is it depends on the parents.If they could and are capable -Expose them in normal increments in order to immunize them then they should should definitely expose them to more of the world
Jackk,
That was supposed to be a serious response!?
sure there are Mavericks .
I tacitly supported the conservative Democrat van Drew in South Jersey
but those are exceptions that almost prove the rule these daysMany people act inappropriately ?
But do they realign the whole world to fit with their indiscretions and flaunt it ?!
Or do they attempt to realign their indiscretions or at least their children’s to fit a better world?As the old french proverb” hypocrisy is the tribute that Vice pays to virtue”
Go ahead ask any educated Foreigner and what each party stands for and what are their goals
Neville,
The late William F. Buckley Jr’s famous quip ‘he would rather trust the first 200[rural]
people in a phonebook than 200 members of the faculty of Harvard’ comes to mindanIsraeliYid
Judaism in America still revolves around those in the state of New York
Is more to worry here about than most comprehend
(paying attention as most are to national results )This is the first time in half century! Democrats control all three governorship Senate and assembly
This might just be beginning of the end
Sure, the numbers will continue to increase,
but the vitality the spiritjackk
Judaism is a pyramid
So while you do have a valid point certain things are much closer to the Pinnacle than others“After he showed him what a beinoni”
Sly answer to pull on a naive fellow but no cigar
it means that he is less than virtually every & any born to a Rebbe’s familyAnd as been reiterated here That is rather mild compared to some other things that have been said overtly or subtly
Every.Single.Litvishe.Yeshivamahn. Sees himself as a talmid/follower/mekabel
also incorrect
true blue Litvak Didn’t and never work like that
they don’t perceive their leader as an emperor demagogue rather as Aristocrat Prince among PeersKaiserW,
largely incorrect
they have said more than once
if but only if someone follows their Rebbe
for everything they should follow vote them for voting